Posted on 11/30/2008 3:35:27 PM PST by cmsgop
Azam Amir, the terrorist who was held by the Mumbai Police, has made some striking revelations regarding the Mumbai terror attacks.
Azam has disclosed that the Pakistan Navy had trained the terrorists in boating and swimming to carry out the attacks in Mumbai. Azam was arrested on Wednesday from Girgaum Chowpatty in an encounter with the police. Ismail Khan, an accomplice of Amir, reportedly died in the gunbattle.
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This could be a problem.
Ohhhhh crap !
Ping
later
I’ve never in 9 years seen you say Oh Crap, now I’m worried.....
The smoking gun. Pakistan better prep up for more war with India because they were asking for it..
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I guess Azam didn’t get the memo about dying before capture. Yes, if he really said it, it could be bad. Pakistan is a rogue state if there ever was one—we should have treated them as such years ago. Its their Oxford educated elite that fools everyone.
Well I doubt this will end good.
Well it was more of a name in that text that speaks volumes as to disinformation here. Oh Crap this is not what it seems sort of comment.....
.. Dawood Ibrahim is a mafia sort. This seems more gang related than paki’s versus india now.....
He’s been a Bombay threat for a long time !
Here is more....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawood_Ibrahim
Not good. Hopefully he is lying. Not good at all.
Terrorists are trained in many things including lying to start wars. I don’t doubt there are subsersive elements in the Pak Navy, but we know that terrorists are trained from childhood in deception and creating bigger tensions between countries— what to say as well as what to do in the event of capture, for instance.
> This is going to spin out of control very, very rapidly.
Yup. Just in time for His Excellency to take office.
(Glad I’m down in the South Pacific where (for now) there are very few muslims!)
This won’t go 6 monthes.More like 6 days...
Wet clean up!
They have pulled the pin...now we are just waiting for the bang.
This was who Gary Colson told H&C Friday evening he suspected was really behind this and that if true things could get uglier and look at this story from April 2008:
Dawood Ibrahims Gang Merged with Lashkar-e-Toiba
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Posted by jagoindia on April 30, 2008
Quote: Asked why the ISI had roped in the D-Company in LeT activities, the official said, “The underworld’s penetration in Maharashtra, Gujarat, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and parts of Kerala and Tamil Nadu is very deep. Unquote
ISI reach will expand with D-Company merger’
MUMBAI: The merger of Dawood Ibrahim’s gang with the Lashkar-e-Toiba at the behest of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) has Indian security agencies worried since the underworld gang will expand the ISI’s reach in the country.
“Many members of Dawood’s gang have been indoctrinated and trained in the use of weapons in the Bahawalpur centre of the LeT near Lahore. Funds are being raised by investments in real estate and SRA projects in Mumbai and through smuggling of diesel and other essential commodities through the western coast spanning from Raigad to Mangalore along the Arabian Sea. We have warned Delhi about the smuggling being carried out by the Dawood gang with impunity,” a security official said.
Asked why the ISI had roped in the D-Company in LeT activities, the official said, “The underworld’s penetration in Maharashtra, Gujarat, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and parts of Kerala and Tamil Nadu is very deep.
By synergizing the D-gang with the LeT, the ISI’s reach has increased manifold. An outfit like the Students’ Islamic Movement of India could not have provided the kind of reach which Dawood’s gang can provide.”
Government sources brushed aside the hope in certain quarters that the installation of a democratically-elected government in Pakistan would result in a decrease in LeT inspired violence since the ISI, which is heavily infiltrated by fundamentalist elements, is known to pursue its own agenda.
Lashkar takes over D-Company 28 Mar 2008, 0031 hrs IST,S Balakrishnan,TNN
MUMBAI: ‘D-Company’ is now officially part of the Lashkar-e-Toiba’s terror network, with Pakistan’s notorious Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) getting Dawood Ibrahim to merge his gang with the fundamentalist terror organisation as part of a gameplan to crank up its anti-India campaign.
Sources in Indian agencies tracking ISI’s moves confirmed the coming together of the two outfits and the danger that it poses to India.
“The underworld gang and the Lashkar jihadis have been knocked into a single entity and this has serious implications for India’s internal security,” a senior intelligence official told TOI on Thursday.
ISI’s links with D-Company are old, going back to 1993 when Pakistan’s external intelligence agency used Dawood and his henchmen to execute the March 12 terror attack on Mumbai in what marked the first instance anywhere of serial bombings. (TOI was the first to report the detention of Dawood, Chhota Shakeel and Tiger Memon by Pakistani authorities).
There has since been a shift in the dynamics of ISI-Dawood equations, reducing D-Company from being a useful ally to a group of individuals dependent on ISI to escape international law agencies.
Following the Mumbai blasts, Dawood along with his accomplices Chhota Shakeel and Tiger Memon fled to Pakistan. Pakistan has since shielded them from India and the new anti-terrorism sensitivities post-9/11 which saw Dawood being branded a global terrorist by the US.
But the hospitality has a tag attached to it: complete dependence for survival on ISI, which does not mind displaying its leverage vis-a-vis the once ruthless gang.
The merger will, inevitably, transform the character of Dawood’s gang, which did not display any communal tendency before the serial bombings aimed against members of a particular community.
In fact, many of their business partners were non-Muslims like Raj Shetty. Chhota Rajan was also a senior member of the gang before splitting in protest against the serial blasts triggered by Dawood, Shakeel and the Memons.
“The serial blasts were essentially a retaliation for the January 1993 communal riots. But now there is a qualitative change with D-Company becoming part of a jihadi organisation like the LeT. Earlier, this gang’s members were not religiously indoctrinated, but now they are. The motivation now is not money, but religion,” a senior official said.
The joining of ranks with Lashkar, one of the most dangerous terrorist outfits which treats “liberation” of large tracts of India from “Hindu domination” as its religious obligation, can help ISI to further its subversive agenda.
Stints with Lashkar camps can morph Dawood’s band of urban gangsters into well-armed and jihad-driven terrorists.
On the other hand, Lashkar benefits immensely from collaboration with D-Company which continues to attract recruits and has acquired financial muscle by venturing into mainstream commercial enterprises without letting go of its original money spinner, smuggling.
“”6 months into the Obama administration.”
It won’t be in Obama’s administration if this is true and verified.
Mark 13:7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars....
Wonder which category India and Pak will fall into. War or rumors?
The captured cell phone and GPS waypoints aren’t helping pakistan on their denials......
The only question now is what will India do...
Azam has disclosed that the Pakistan Navy had trained the terrorists in boating and swimming to carry out the attacks in Mumbai. Azam was arrested on Wednesday from Girgaum Chowpatty in an encounter with the police. Ismail Khan, an accomplice of Amir, reportedly died in the gunbattle.
Sources say Azam has also revealed that people from gangster Dawood Ibrahim's gang helped the terrorists from Karachi in organising the attacks.
Reports suggest that the planning for the terror attacks in Mumbai had begun almost a year ago in Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir. Azam has reportedly told the police that around 20 Pakistan nationals were trained in PoK to carry out the attacks. The training in PoK went on for almost five-and-half months, during which the terrorist were taught the use of sophisticated arms and ammunition.
At the end of the five months training, all terrorists were given a months leave and were ordered to gather in Karachi after the break for training in boating, rowing and swimming by the Pakistan Navy.
They were then handed over some CDs and maps of the Taj and Oberoi hotels. The CDs and maps also had pictures of important rail stations like VT. At the end of this training a batch of 10 terrorists was set off for India via the Indian sea route.
Mumbai Police expects more details will come out during the course of their investigations."
Exactly, propaganda is a very powerful weapon.
I'm am not really familiar with Dawood Ibrahim, but I could easily see where fommenting trouble between India and Pakistan could work to his advantage, in the short term.
You folks may want to check this out.
It’s a good thing that in a mere 51 days the world will be immediately filled with colorful rainbows, dancing unicorns and love for all.
That little Islamonazi is singing like a canary.
I’ll bet the Indians might have even put panties on his head.
They are not done with this guy, but he will sing and sing and sing.
Good time to get iodine supplements.
Uh, oh.
I hope they are not being mean to him! sarc. Where is the Indian ACLU?
Breaking...Obama has chronic facial tic...
Might be a good idea to keep this stuff handy:
Nuclear, Biological, & Chemical Warfare- Survival Skills, Pt. II
-The India-Pakistani Conflict... some background information- --
Hi, Workerbee.
I’m here reading along.
I’m still reeling over the “information” that there were only 10 terrorists who pulled off this thing. Get serious. How many were already planted in the command centers in the hotels? (second tier) Then there were the guys on the secure lines calling the shots (third tier) and finally the ones above them and so on. These kids were pawns. Since we know they dressed to fit in, there could have been dozens.
Where's the ACLU or Amnesty International whining about his rights? (crickets)
Funny how America approves of behavior they condemn here, when it's the Indians who are doing it. /sarc
5.56mm
Like we should believe ANYTHING the vile little terrorist says...
I just hope everyone can hold out for that long. Practising Kumbaya right now.
Could be a cause for war from India’s point of view.
A) Is India Times a credible news source?
B) This is a serious assertion, hope it’s on videotape.
It's worth looking him up on the internet and reading about him.
He's involved in all sorts of Pak and Indian based crime and Islamic intrigue.
I suggested a couple of days ago that the instigator here may well have a hand in the Somalia based pirates.
Daewood could easily hire/bribe the Pak, or Indian, Navy to train such people.
We'll probably have the closest thing to "truth" out of the Indian government no sooner than 6 months down the road. They have some negotiations to carry out with Obama first.
Do you think his story is part of a psyop or is he trying to save his skin?
Have any fallout maps for that part of the world?How much would reach our west coast?
>>>>Pakistan is a rogue state if there ever was one—we should have treated them as such years ago.<<<<<
Yep. BCCI and the nuclear proliferation gave it away. Also it doesn’t help to be a narcoeconomy and the nexus of global jihadi terrorism.
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