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Thanksgiving costumes banned at school
KABC-TV (Los Angeles) ^ | 25 November 2008 | Rob McMillan

Posted on 11/26/2008 10:50:17 AM PST by COBOL2Java

CLAREMONT, Calif. (KABC) -- There is a costume controversy in Claremont. The school board changed a decades-long tradition of students dressing up to celebrate Thanksgiving, and some parents are outraged.

The tradition involves kindergarten students at Mountain View and Condit elementary schools. The kids usually dress up in costumes. Each school takes turns dressing up as pilgrims and Indians, and then join together for a Thanksgiving feast.

This year, however, there is a big change. The school board decided to continue holding the feast, but they are not allowing the students to dress up. The board is concerned the Indian costumes may have negative connotations.

"Out of respect for the native American heritage, we have made the decision to ask the children not to dress up," said Devon Freitas, assistant superintendent for human services, Claremont Unified School District.

That decision has infuriated many parents. Some of them have ignored the school board and dressed their kids up anyway. "I think it's ridiculous. It's a longstanding tradition and the kids really enjoy it, so we're going overboard," said parent Kimberly Rogers.

Just after 9 a.m. Tuesday, the students took their annual walk for the annual Thanksgiving feast, many of them still wearing costumes as a form of protest.

However, at the end of a nearly mile-long march from Mountain View to Condit, there was another protest. This time, it was from a Native American group.

"What's offensive is there are harmful stereotypes that represent a harmful legacy of history that has been denied to indigenous people in this country. The true history of Thanksgiving is one of a massacre," said Klee Benally, who opposes the costumes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: americanindians; antiamericanism; blameamericafirst; grinchstoleturkeyday; historyeducation; indoctrination; leftismoncampus; liberalbigot; littleredschoolhouse; multiculturalism; revisionisthistory; schoolboard; stalinisttactics; thanksgiving
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1 posted on 11/26/2008 10:50:17 AM PST by COBOL2Java
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To: COBOL2Java

only about the 12th post of this one...


2 posted on 11/26/2008 10:50:48 AM PST by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: xcamel

Did a search, came up with nothing. Links?


3 posted on 11/26/2008 10:51:22 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obamanation: an imploding administration headed by a clueless schmuck)
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To: COBOL2Java
OH, so they can dress up in sheets with towels on their heads and it's good but they can't dress up as an American Indian because it's bad.

Got it. Just another form of hypocrisy.

4 posted on 11/26/2008 10:52:41 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: COBOL2Java

Well, then, let’s play Cowboys and Muslims instead!...............


5 posted on 11/26/2008 10:54:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: COBOL2Java
ǝɔɐld dn pǝʍǝɹɔs ɐ ǝɯoɔǝq sɐɥ plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ
6 posted on 11/26/2008 10:55:35 AM PST by WildcatClan (AND THOSE DOESNT BRAIN JUST GO. ---- Cecile Noe)
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To: COBOL2Java
The school board changed a decades-long tradition of students dressing up to celebrate Thanksgiving, and some parents are outraged.

Simple solution for that one is to make use of the freedom available and just home school or put the kids through private school and take the take the voucher credits. Problem solved.....

Oh, wait a minute.

7 posted on 11/26/2008 10:56:00 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: COBOL2Java

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138389/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2138214/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2137889/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2137752/posts

(sources vary, but same story)


8 posted on 11/26/2008 10:56:32 AM PST by xcamel (Conservatives start smart, and get rich, liberals start rich, and get stupid.)
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To: Just another Joe
The board is concerned the Indian costumes may have negative connotations.

Dumbasses. Even back when I was a schoolboy in the 1960's, some of us were proud of our native American heritage and looked forward to dressing up. I don't think the problem is possible "negative connotations" so much as it is making Americans actually feel united for a day rather than divided into their assigned groups with big government as the arbitrator of who gets what.

9 posted on 11/26/2008 10:56:56 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: COBOL2Java

When the wishes of ONE command us all to act in a way please to that particular one’s wishes, it is called TYRANNY.

And why no mention of the muslim woman who started this?


10 posted on 11/26/2008 10:57:32 AM PST by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: COBOL2Java

Actually, the kids who were assigned to be the Indians protested because of the required head-lice infestation and being dragged to school on a litter.


11 posted on 11/26/2008 10:58:57 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: COBOL2Java
Out of respect for the native American heritage, we have made the decision to ignore they even existed for the first Thanksgiving dinner.

Fixed it for them.

12 posted on 11/26/2008 10:59:00 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Freedom cannot coexist with so-called liberal "tolerance."

Where we must tolerate (bend to) everyone's slightest offense.

13 posted on 11/26/2008 10:59:14 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: COBOL2Java
"What's offensive is there are harmful stereotypes that represent a harmful legacy of history that has been denied to indigenous people in this country. The true history of Thanksgiving is one of a massacre," said Klee Benally, who opposes the costumes.

We should follow the teachings of "Landreau" and live as drones so we won't offend anyone until "Festival". ; )

14 posted on 11/26/2008 10:59:44 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

we go through this every year. silly liberals


15 posted on 11/26/2008 11:00:51 AM PST by Charles Bronson Forever
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To: COBOL2Java

and just for $h!ts and giggles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCEtIz8_Ao


16 posted on 11/26/2008 11:01:00 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: COBOL2Java

Parents in CALIFORNIA outraged at political correctness???!!!
Maybe there is hope for America after all.


17 posted on 11/26/2008 11:01:43 AM PST by dianed
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To: COBOL2Java

This is just plain silly. 15 minutes of fame and all that........

The really disturbing thing (to me) is that there is an elementary school there called “Condit.”

Ewwwwwww............there’s a name I never wanted to hear again.


18 posted on 11/26/2008 11:02:05 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
we go through this every year. silly liberals

The silliness sure can be a swift kick in the arse of personal freedom at times and VERY annoying too boot however.

ARGH!!

19 posted on 11/26/2008 11:06:11 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: COBOL2Java
Would someone please start a petition to declare California as a "non-recognized state of America"?

Those who sign pledge to not engage in any form of financial or social transactions with anyone from that state, as it shows no signs of being a member and supporter of the laws and traditions of the United States of America.

I don't care how nice the weather is, or how much money you can make out there, I would pull up stakes and move my family back to the USA if I lived there.

This ploy to block kids from celebrating Thanksgivings traditions are just that...an attempt to brainwash kids and de-Americanize them. It has nothing to do with offending the indians...after 200 years, this is the first we've heard of it.
20 posted on 11/26/2008 11:06:56 AM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: COBOL2Java

Can you name another culture/nation/historical era for which dressing the part is considered an insult? If one dresses like a Roman, a French Revolutionary or a Civil War soldier those are tributes, reenactments and/or teaching opportunities.

With American Indians suddenly it’s all off-limits - a smug, you-can’t-have-it kind of petulance demonstrating and teaching nothing except getting one’s mug and hand-scrawled sign on TV.

According to the twisted logic of AIM and cowardly school types if someone were to dress up as an SS solider that would be OK since period and cultural costumes are an insult.


21 posted on 11/26/2008 11:08:46 AM PST by relictele
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To: COBOL2Java
"The true history of Thanksgiving is one of a massacre," ---- Allrighty.

These politically incorrect pets should be ashamed! /s

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22 posted on 11/26/2008 11:17:09 AM PST by Girlene
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To: COBOL2Java

No comment...just needed to change my tagline.


23 posted on 11/26/2008 11:18:55 AM PST by moonpie57 ("Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." MLK)
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To: Charles Bronson Forever
I was waiting until Christmas to post this year's version of my annual rant but this story kicked it up into November.

TAKE ALL THE PLAYS, DANCES AND OTHER SOCIAL FUNCTIONS OUT OF THE SCHOOLS AND OFF SCHOOL GROUNDS!

Schools, politicians and so-called 'educators' live to meddle. Having failed to discharge their primary duties they nevertheless have plenty of time to spend on trifles.

Form a community social/activity board. Hold dances, proms and other functions in a rented building with security and monitored transportation to/from. Make attendance/participation COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY and eliminate the leverage of the malcontents and moaners (ably assisted by clueless school types) who try people's patience, abuse the court system and ruin otherwise traditional celebrations. You have special religious requirements? Fine. Stay home and knock yourselves out on the ol' prayer mat. Your kid is allergic? Fine. Stay home and eat your special food.

Holiday celebrations? Make them church-sponsored or use the community board. Christmas, Hanukkah, Ramadan, Chinese New Year - whatever. Parents who want to ruin one celebration by holding everyone hostage with their PC nonsense can sponsor their own religious/cultural/historic celebration. Too bad if only a handful of kids or possibly even their own kid are the only ones who show up.

The point - again - is to take it off the public square (school grounds) and privatize it so that it's no longer considered a public accomodation. As a bonus the schools will increase their available instructional days without actually adding to the school calendar since all those hours spent watching holiday-related shows will be recovered. Take the bat out of the schools' hands and you remove their power base in one move.

Otherwise this foolishness will never end because a new crop of teachers springs forth every year intent on passing on the balderdash they've been programmed with.

24 posted on 11/26/2008 11:23:34 AM PST by relictele
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To: FrankR

The Red Commies have been pushing this trash on American children for 50 years. Some of those red diaper babies are now in positions of authority and spewing the hate they were always taught.

Michelle Obama told us that our history and our traditions are going to have to CHANGE.


25 posted on 11/26/2008 11:24:21 AM PST by weegee (Sec. of State Clinton. What kind of change is it to keep the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton Oligarchy?)
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To: EGPWS

One woman conplained.The majority is being run like sheep!


26 posted on 11/26/2008 11:26:37 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: COBOL2Java

Next they’ll be installing a foot bath in the school.


27 posted on 11/26/2008 11:28:39 AM PST by AU72
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To: AU72

dumb, dumb, dumb


28 posted on 11/26/2008 11:31:14 AM PST by johnnycap
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To: Dr. Ursus
The majority is being run like sheep!

The majority of us are being herded like sheep apparently.

That is sad and is just another chink in the armor of personal freedom so diligently fought for with conviction since the 18th century.

29 posted on 11/26/2008 11:34:42 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

The good news is that many of the parents are fighting back.


30 posted on 11/26/2008 11:35:59 AM PST by Dr. Ursus (( commander of the simian host))
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To: weegee
Michelle Obama told us that our history and our traditions are going to have to CHANGE.

Is she the spawn of George Orwell literature, just an idiot, or both?

31 posted on 11/26/2008 11:37:51 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Dr. Ursus
The good news is that many of the parents are fighting back.

While it is still permitted to do so.

Good for those diligent parents who are concerned for their kid's future.

32 posted on 11/26/2008 11:40:36 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dianed
Parents in CALIFORNIA outraged at political correctness???!!! Maybe there is hope for America after all.

You seem to think California is the only state that bows to political correctness. There are many conservatives in California, after all FreeRepublic was born here.

33 posted on 11/26/2008 11:50:37 AM PST by notaliberal
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To: notaliberal
If you complain about California, please identify where you live so we can critique your state
34 posted on 11/26/2008 11:57:25 AM PST by notaliberal
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To: COBOL2Java
What a country.

Does that apply to former Presidents visiting the kids too? ;-)


35 posted on 11/26/2008 12:05:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed)
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To: notaliberal

heard on dennis prager this morning the parents dressed their kids up and sent them to school in defiance of the decision. they took their kids out of school today so the school loses money for all the absent kids on wednesday.


36 posted on 11/26/2008 12:14:18 PM PST by bravo whiskey (NO I WON'T)
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To: notaliberal

I lived in southern Ca for 10 years. As much as I loved the place I couldn’t raise my kids there.

I wanted them to grow up loving America, speaking English, knowing that having “stuff” was not the same as being important and believing that “making a difference” had nothing to do with plastic surgery.

I have great respect for anyone who has the fortitude to counter the daily onslaught of warped ideas children are fed. I did not.


37 posted on 11/26/2008 12:56:33 PM PST by dianed
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To: FrankR
Would someone please start a petition to declare California as a "non-recognized state of America"?

Only if you get stuck with the new President.

38 posted on 11/26/2008 1:02:37 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dianed

Californians said NO! to gay marriage. It seems like the east coast states are the ones who are full of fruits and nuts (gay marriage)


39 posted on 11/26/2008 1:02:44 PM PST by notaliberal
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To: COBOL2Java; All

The thing that I don’t like about these seemingly last-minute attacks on “free” speech is that the people launching the attacks are not giving the issues time to be decided in the courts. It seems that the people launching these “surprise” attacks are relying on the knee-jerk reactions of school administrators, who want to avoid lawsuits, to stop traditional practices.


40 posted on 11/26/2008 1:03:19 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: dragnet2
"Only if you get stuck with the new President. <"

The "new" president goes with the state that provided the most electoral votes for him. Good luck!
41 posted on 11/26/2008 1:13:14 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: FrankR

Since he’s going to be living on the east coast, where he belongs, you’re stuck with him.


42 posted on 11/26/2008 1:18:24 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
"Since he’s going to be living on the east coast, where he belongs, you’re stuck with him. "

Not me, I bought some "Obama Offsets".

I think I'll move to Alaska.
43 posted on 11/26/2008 1:26:24 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: FrankR

Yeah, I bought a few boxes of those to.


44 posted on 11/26/2008 1:40:57 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: notaliberal

—Californians say NO! to gay marriage—

Thank God for Obama and the black vote ...but I couldn’t agree more that there are more radical states.


45 posted on 11/26/2008 1:47:58 PM PST by dianed
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To: Vigilanteman

Back when I was in School, in Northern CA, we had plenty of Miwuks in school with us. They never complained and as a matter of fact took pride in being Native Americans, altho that term was never used. Thanksgiving is a celebration of two civilizations coming together and thanking God for it. What a bunch of communists SOBs.


46 posted on 11/26/2008 1:52:35 PM PST by calex59
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To: DaveLoneRanger; 2Jedismom; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; Anima Mundi; Antoninus; arbooz; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
47 posted on 11/26/2008 1:56:12 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: WildcatClan
ǝɔɐld dn pǝʍǝɹɔs ɐ ǝɯoɔǝq sɐɥ plɹoʍ ǝɥʇ

Very cool. Didn't know you could do that with code.

48 posted on 11/26/2008 4:50:17 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: metmom

Does the absurdity never end?


49 posted on 11/26/2008 5:35:25 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Vigilanteman
You nailed it.

Lesson for kids: How Politics Spoil a Good Time 101

50 posted on 11/26/2008 8:25:20 PM PST by pray4liberty (Always vote for life!)
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