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Breaking : SHOOTOUTS IN MUMBAI [A lot of people killed and injured]
CNN IBN ^ | Wed, Nov 26, 2008

Posted on 11/26/2008 9:39:53 AM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite

Mumbai: At least 15 people have been injured in gunfights between two groups in at least three places in Mumbai on Thursday night.

Details are sketchy but it is believed that two gangs fired at each other at outside CST Railway Terminus, Hotel Oberoi and the popular Café Leopold restaurant in Mumbai.

The first shooting took place near the CST police station

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To: Dog

I agree. This is something completely new. As I said in an earlier post; it is like something out of one of the Die Hard movies.

I have been thinking about how a potential attack against Stockholm could be set in place and how we would be able to protect ourselves. I stopped before it became too depressing....


2,261 posted on 11/28/2008 12:34:35 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Yeah, I was just posting on another thread about the Islamist piracy problem — another area where the world (i.e., USA and allies) needs to take notice and exterminate the vermin before the problem grows much, much larger. They are collecting tens of millions of dollars from piracy - before long it will be a lot more unless we stamp out the pirate nests and dens along the Somali coast. We need to make the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Aden no-go areas for pirates — establish limited shipping lanes for legitimate vessels so that they can be more readily monitored and protected. Then sink every #%@%@%# pirate boat that can be identified, trace their points of origin, etc. I know it’s all “easier said than done” but it seems like the world (i.e., USA and key allies) had better take the problem more seriously before it grows and grows.


2,262 posted on 11/28/2008 12:35:05 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: Dog
That is why the coming conflict in the US will be urban in nature. Look how many KIA there were and how many troops it took to stop it.
2,263 posted on 11/28/2008 12:35:16 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit.)
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To: jhpigott

Heard something disturbing...the bad guys set up a CP in the Taj, and I heard they were not of the usual “spray and pray” variety of terrs...and they brought food and plenty of ammo...They planned for this. The more I hear..the more I am convinced ISI and Al-Q had something to do with this.


2,264 posted on 11/28/2008 12:36:39 PM PST by Braak (The US Military, the real arms inspectors!)
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To: floriduh voter

It was Deepak Chopra—the grinning idiot—saying that his TM methods would have prevented this terrorist attack.

What a loon!

And some idiot Catholic retreat leaders use his methods and materials. Fools and aiders and abettors of spiritual murder. Tools of Satan.


2,265 posted on 11/28/2008 12:38:09 PM PST by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: ScaniaBoy; Dog

The scale of one operation is new but a lot of people don’t realize that over 2,500 Indians were slaughtered in terrorist actions just in the past year — and many more thousands in recent years — so as long as the jihadists confined themselves to one massacre at a time, hardly anyone in the media took notice. It is only b/c they have pulled off a spectacular multi-pronged attack in such a major city that the media gets geared up to show it, but the slaughter has been going on in the thousands of lives for years without much international media interest.


2,266 posted on 11/28/2008 12:39:10 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: CindyDawg
Actually I found FR in 2002 . I never bothered to sign up . I used to read many articles here but that was about it .

Then I finally signed up after Zero got elected . Oh that survival kit ......... So far i have only managed to collect : 1 box of aspirin 1 box of ban aids hand sanitizers 1 toothpaste and three brushes 3 liters bottled water 3 packets of pasta 1 tin of ham 20 granola bars Can't seem to get hold of a first aid kit But I think I will ask my brother to send an entire survival kit from California . It will be easier that way :)

2,267 posted on 11/28/2008 12:40:18 PM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite
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To: jersey117

My son is NYPD. We had some discussions over the Thanksgiving table about how this changes things...


2,268 posted on 11/28/2008 12:41:32 PM PST by Pharmboy (BHO: making death and taxes yet MORE certain...)
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To: Dog

Exactly, exactly...


2,269 posted on 11/28/2008 12:42:49 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Braak

i heard the same thing re CPs at the hotels. sounds like a number of terrorists were on locale for a little while doing recon and setting up CPs. The rest of the terrorists plus the weapons/ammo came in via speedboat.

as others have stated upthread - this looked mored like an infantry assault than it did a traditional terrorist attack . . . which could indicate some level of formal military training


2,270 posted on 11/28/2008 12:43:12 PM PST by jhpigott
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To: Dog

Whoa- per Mansoor Ijaz on FOX...the intel and floor plans that the terrorists had was SO precise they must have had people on the inside working in the hotels..


2,271 posted on 11/28/2008 12:45:34 PM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: jhpigott

“as others have stated upthread - this looked mored like an infantry assault than it did a traditional terrorist attack . . . which could indicate some level of formal military training”

I remember seeing videos of Al -Queda training its fighters- at a training camp .

So the traing camps are still functioning .
Hmmmmmmmmm


2,272 posted on 11/28/2008 12:47:38 PM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite
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To: null and void; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; ...
One atrocity at a time - for now. Given an excuse to rampage, such as a perfectly deserved and valid attack on islamic iran, attacks such as these will flare up in THOUSANDS all over the globe including inside America.

There are reportedly some 40,000 suicide bombers and terrorist like the Mumbai ones already in place JUST IN AMERICA.

Europe probably has well double or triple that with France and England leading in numbers. AND any number of highly trained “white Al Qaeda” coming in from Kosovo and Albania without much control on passports.

Perhaps Mumbai will be a wake up call to Eurabia to tighten their security even if it means a reduction in their liberal social and political attitudes that were never meant to deal with jihadism, violent or political infiltration of sharia law and Moslem customs as the “norm” or catered to on an equal basis with former national mindsets. Or even given priority over usual national norms.

Eurabia has agreed to allow over 100,000 Iraqis into their countries. Want to bet quite a number of tgerrorists will sneak in this way?

Specially after Bush hands over to Obama.

While Obama’s Marxist type of Million Man Civil security Force has keeping him and Communist type government in control now and in the future, it may be a double edge sword and be able to deal with islamic terrorist.

Only of course, if Obama, with his 20-year anti-American Christian indoctrination (DR. Wright) and his own Moslem upbringing, do not turn this civil force on all of us to ENFORCE islamic sharia.

In many ways (except the former does not say there is a deity) Communism and islam are very, very similar in attitudes. The only real difference is that islam demands obedience to a moon god while Communism demands obedience and dependency on the ruling government, with some figurehead like Obama at the helm.

2,273 posted on 11/28/2008 12:52:07 PM PST by FARS
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To: ScaniaBoy

ScaniaBoy,

In Sweden (and Norway - The Oslo police just today told people to stay away from the area around the central station) you have another problem that a laser beam is unable to focus on.

Gangs ruling the streets. Gangs attacking retirements homes in Trollhaettan. Girls being raped. Youngsters being assaulted and robbed.

Not to derail the thread.


2,274 posted on 11/28/2008 12:52:16 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CS)
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To: Enchante
Think big picture.

Think someone using 5 man teams on 9/11 to turn airplanes into lethal missiles to bring us to our knees....now take that UP 100 notches...... and spread that over a city of 13 million or so....with 40 committed shock troops whose only mission was to cause as much havoc as humanly possible before they were taken down.

Now you guard a city against that scenario.

2,275 posted on 11/28/2008 12:52:48 PM PST by Dog
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To: SE Mom

They did.


2,276 posted on 11/28/2008 12:54:24 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
Its the complexity of this one that has grabbed my attention.

Yes, that's very, er, interesting...

I had the privilege several years ago of an escorted tour of a large, important multi-sided building near a river. The visible security that I passed through (several layers) resembled Officer Friendly.

I asked my guide how close to the building a company-sized force staging from the river could get, and if such a force could get inside.

"That's classified", he said.

The only good thing about this story is that they apparantly had to stage from Pakistan - IOW, they haven't demonstrated power projection, yet.

There are so many soft targets in the US that are accessible from the water.

2,277 posted on 11/28/2008 12:54:30 PM PST by Jim Noble (I have read a fiery gospel, writ in burnished rows of steel)
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To: Indian_Fighter_Kite

I am glad you decided to sign up.

My prayers are with you, your family, your people and your nation.


2,278 posted on 11/28/2008 12:55:02 PM PST by Eurotwit (WI - CS)
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To: Nonstatist

>>So its no longer Bombay? Sheesh, I’m always the last to know!<<

Yaeh, Bombay and Peking are hiding out in a hotel room with Elvis.


2,279 posted on 11/28/2008 12:55:35 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: SE Mom
Or they probably bribed hotel staff to show them around .

This actually happens here . Have the right amount of cash and anything is possible .

2,280 posted on 11/28/2008 12:56:27 PM PST by Indian_Fighter_Kite
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