Posted on 11/25/2008 2:55:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385
One of the lessons from this election is the destruction of the myth that Republicans who support amnesty for illegal aliens would do well among Hispanic voters.
No presidential candidate worked harder on illegal immigration amnesty than John McCain. In 2005, he sponsored an amnesty bill that became known as the McCain-Kennedy bill (co-sponsored by Sen. Kennedy). When that bill failed, he tried again the following year, with a variant of the McCain-Kennedy bill. That bill also failed. Unfazed, he tried yet again in 2007. If any one of those bills had passed, at least 10 million illegal aliens would have received amnesty.
In contrast, Sen. Barack Obama, though a supporter of amnesty, never authored a single major immigration bill. Yet, on Election Day, McCain, the Republican who had persevered on amnesty, was overwhelmingly rejected by Hispanic voters.
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And the idiots are still trying to convince us to embrace their illegals.
A friend in Phx told me all these “immigrants” want is socialism, not amnesty. They see a rich, white country that can be taken advantage of to spread the wealth.
“A friend in Phx told me all these “immigrants” want is socialism, not amnesty. They see a rich, white country that can be taken advantage of to spread the wealth.”
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In other words, just like many American blacks.
How true. Amnesty and uncontrolled illegal immigration just pumps up the number of low-income voters who are used to a corrupt one-party system which makes them extra susceptible to Democrat Party promises of free Federal goodies.
Mexicans already have socialized medicine, a government mandated education curriculum, and a corrupt military. You combine them with a commercial oligarchy and a government kleptocracy and the result is chaos — or Los Angeles.
They probably figure it doesnt work in mexico because its a poor country anyway. Logically you would think all immigrants to America would be free market capitalists but thats just not the case.
Libs want to try socialism because they figure the right people didnt run it in Russia
Illegals want to try it because they see a rich country that can share.
Thats my theory.
I live in a SoCal city that probably has a higher number of illegals than the total populations of many small cities. This is a severe problem. But, the sooner we abandon the idea that one way or another we can get 12 million people (roughly the combined pop. of OK, MO, AR and KS) to leave; the sooner we can come up with a realistic solution. One idea might be a path to legal residency, where they pay taxes, stay out of trouble and off the dole, but can’t vote.
I wonder how many illegals ended up voting in our elections.
It’s likely more a failure of the McCain to make real inroads on the ground in latino communities. Although amnesty is an awful idea, it would certainly give the gop a place to start the conversation with these people. No issue is going to be a magic bullet that converts people to our side.
That said, i don’t think it’s even worth it in the final analysis. Regan already built a winning coalition, how about we pay attention to THAT instead of trying to reach out to new people we dont need and who don’t support our agenda?
It does among criminal alien Hispanics...
These tactics won't work on us . We free market , capitalist , conservatives know if you want something like this you must pay for it .
What effect do you think enacting AND enforcing a law that states that non citizens cannot receive FREE food stamps, FREE housing assistance, FREE medical services or any other taxpayer funded social service would have on prompting the 12 million illegals to go home?
What percentage of them do you think remain here because of these FREE social services?
I’m fed up at this point, Harry Reid today said that Amnesty will go through this time, and I know plenty of Democrats who are also against it. I want to know what the American people are going to do about the possibility of our population going up by 100 million, and who’s going to pay for the social services that will go along with it? and the infrastructure which will be effected?
Has anyone told this to McCain yet? With his amnesty, he's helping to assure a permanently ascendant democrat party.
Yes, It will win 20+ million new Democrat voters.
Unless the illegals vote...
I know and that’s why the state is over run with parasitic illegals.
Don't you realize that they would become citizens eventually, if not now, then in a few years?
I expect to hear lots of preposterous promises about amnesty being "good" next year.
Although a 2009 amnesty would be 100 times worse, no I'm not exaggerating, than the 1986 amnesty, let's review the promises Kennedy made about that amnesty:
"First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same."
"Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset…Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [this immigration bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area."
"Thirdly, the bill will not permit the entry of subversive persons, criminals, illiterates or those with contagious disease."
Well, maybe the bill will not "permit" it, but it happened.
"No immigrant visa will be issued to a person who is likely to become a public charge."
But if they do get public money, that's just fine because it makes them more dependent on the Dems.
"This amnesty will give citizenship to only 1.3 million illegal aliens. We will secure the borders henceforth. We will never again bring forth an amnesty bill like this."
Some of the senate amnesty idiots last year actually repeated that promise: "Never again...." The truth is that if you allow amnesty, it encourages more illegals, and makes illegal immigration and amnesty even more difficult to stop in the future.
“Amnesty for Illegals Doesn’t Win Hispanic Votes.”
Not only that, but the push for amnesty has left the R party gravely wounded, thanks to GWB and McCain, and others like “footsie” Larry Craig who went along with it.
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I live in Southern California. You're absolutely right. I'm always amazed at the posters (who must live in non-invaded areas) who say they welcome the illegal invasion because they think all the women will look like Salma Hayak or Jennifer Lopez. Not hardly.
Mo, but it WILL win the votes of those who get amnesty for the party that gives the most goodies.....
Unfortunately latin american culture is infected with eastern-european philosophy (ie mild forms of marxism)...plus the bravado of the Spanish. In other words, mostly good people...but not really good thinking on the politics.
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