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U.S. Agrees to Citigroup Bailout (Guarantees $300 billion in toxic assets)
Wall Street Journal ^

Posted on 11/23/2008 8:43:14 PM PST by mathwhizz

The federal government agreed Sunday to take unprecedented steps to stabilize Citigroup Inc. by moving to guarantee close to $300 billion in troubled assets weighing on the bank's books, according to people familiar with details of the plan.

Treasury has agreed to inject an additional $20 billion in capital into Citigroup under terms of the deal hashed out between the bank, the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Treasury officials will charge a higher interest rate for the capital injection -- 8% for the first few years -- than it has charged to dozens of other banks now borrowing money under the government's the $700 billion rescue package approved by Congress last month.

In addition to the capital, Citigroup will have an extremely unusual arrangement in which the government agrees to backstop a roughly $300 billion pool of its assets, containing mortgage-backed securities among other things. Citigroup must absorb the first $37 billion to $40 billion in losses from these assets. If losses extend beyond that level, Treasury will absorb the next $5 billion in losses, followed by the FDIC taking on the next $10 billion in losses. Any losses on these assets beyond that level would be taken by the Fed.

Citigroup would also agree to work to modify -- if possible -- troubled mortgages held in the $300 billion pool, using standards created by the FDIC after the collapse of IndyMac Bank.

The government is not expected to require any management changes, as that was seen as potentially being too destabilizing.

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1 posted on 11/23/2008 8:43:14 PM PST by mathwhizz
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To: mathwhizz

I am in my mid 20’s and we’ll be paying for these “bailouts” for the rest of my life...


2 posted on 11/23/2008 8:46:24 PM PST by ConservativeMan55 (Cal Thomas.. just another has been with an opinion and an a$$hole...)
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To: mathwhizz

3 posted on 11/23/2008 8:47:10 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: mathwhizz

Asia markets down.


4 posted on 11/23/2008 8:47:49 PM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: mathwhizz

Thank you, sir, may I have another? I love being robbed to pay for the profligacy of others!


5 posted on 11/23/2008 8:48:16 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: ConservativeMan55
Watch for Citi stock to close below 5 a share again tomorrow.

The short sellers are going to kill them, and rightfully so.

L

6 posted on 11/23/2008 8:48:31 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: mathwhizz
When do we start 'Watering the tree'?

How much more of this crap are we going to put up with?

Any one who is gainfully employed now is a fool, and will be raped by these people.

7 posted on 11/23/2008 8:50:30 PM PST by realdifferent1 ("If you saw Atlas,...what would you tell him to do?"... "To shrug.")
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To: mathwhizz

“The government is not expected to require any management changes, as that was seen as potentially being too destabilizing.”

Doesn’t something have to be stable before it stands the possibility of being destabilized?


8 posted on 11/23/2008 8:53:25 PM PST by John W (Voters were more afraid of losing their money than losing their souls.)
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To: mathwhizz

Next up, newspaper bailouts. After that we can resurrect the typewriter companies.


9 posted on 11/23/2008 8:53:26 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: mathwhizz

For a minute, I thought this was going to cost a lot.


10 posted on 11/23/2008 8:57:01 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The committed will surely dominate the complacent.)
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To: mathwhizz
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MADNESS!

11 posted on 11/23/2008 8:58:26 PM PST by hercuroc
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To: ConservativeMan55

Millions of people losing their jobs already are. All because of the greed and stupidity of these financials over leveraging their balance sheets and giving loans to anyone with a pulse.


12 posted on 11/23/2008 8:58:26 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: mathwhizz

Our troops have to beg for every penny in order to buy ammo and equipment...


13 posted on 11/23/2008 9:01:51 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: hercuroc

Alex Guiness, Bridge on the River Kwai

He needs a bailout too...

:)


14 posted on 11/23/2008 9:03:29 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: mathwhizz
I paid my taxes.
My taxes are being handed over to Citigroup.
Does this mean my Citibank credit card bills will be comped from here on out?
15 posted on 11/23/2008 9:05:21 PM PST by PressurePoint
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To: mathwhizz

Why don’t we just give a billion dollars to every citizen and be done with it.


16 posted on 11/23/2008 9:05:40 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: mathwhizz

I guess the silver lining is that between these massive bailouts and Obama’s new Work’s Progress Administration, we might be spared socialized healthcare. If the federal government was broke before, we are beyond broke now.


17 posted on 11/23/2008 9:07:28 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: mathwhizz

GREAT news! Hugely bullish! $4 bank needs gov’t bailout in order to prevent implosion. Everybody in!


18 posted on 11/23/2008 9:08:35 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Our government is an edifice of artifice.)
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To: mathwhizz

Damn, I shoulda bought Citigroup last week. I’d be richer Monday. What the hell, the gov’t has decided buy them for me anyway (w/my tax dollars).


19 posted on 11/23/2008 9:08:40 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: mathwhizz
I want a Congressman to stand up in front of the cameras and find for me in the Constitution where it says the federal government can do something like this. And if he can really show it to me, I'll be satisfied. But we are heading down a dangerous, dangerous path, where the only limit on federal power will be federal ambition.

I suggest we all make some noise to our Congressmen.
20 posted on 11/23/2008 9:10:10 PM PST by kc8ukw
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To: ConservativeMan55

Treasury took on only 5 billion.

Well 5 billion is 5 billion.. but it isn’t 300 billion. People need to understand what comes out of their pocket versus what comes out of private companies pocket.


21 posted on 11/23/2008 9:10:27 PM PST by Almondjoy
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Based on Obama’s picks so far, I doubt it. The socialists... oops, I mean, libs, would rather destroy this country with socialized healthcare than use good common sense during these difficult economic times.


22 posted on 11/23/2008 9:11:34 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: mathwhizz

Give us your poor, your tired, your weak, your hungry...

...your crap loans, your garbage stock, your bankrupt corporations


23 posted on 11/23/2008 9:12:51 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: umgud

They should have let them go under!

Every dollar they print for a stimulus or bail out is stealing from me and the people agreeing to them should be brought up on grand theft charges and put in prison!


24 posted on 11/23/2008 9:13:43 PM PST by dalereed
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To: mathwhizz

Prince Alaweed bin Talel is a major stockholder in Citigroup. I suspect that the Saudis have applied major pressure to make this happen.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 9:16:00 PM PST by kabar
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To: mathwhizz

That’s it....I’m not paying for anything else. My government is to stupid to let a bad penny go...The inmates have taken over the asylum....


26 posted on 11/23/2008 9:16:29 PM PST by Issaquahking (Obama won the election, and America lost!)
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To: mathwhizz

why would there be changes when rubinites are and will be running the federal show (paulson, benrnancke, geitner, summers)


27 posted on 11/23/2008 9:16:43 PM PST by rickylc
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To: mathwhizz

Great...throw the money down the invisible banking toilet, but don’t bailout real workers. Washington bailing out its own.


28 posted on 11/23/2008 9:17:09 PM PST by madison10
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To: mathwhizz
200 billions stimulus
700 billion bailout
300 billion for citigroup
WTF is going on here? We the tax payers are going to be buggered and BEGGARED with all this $$ they are throwing out.

Unless they are planning to monetize the debt ... we're all dead meat.

29 posted on 11/23/2008 9:18:59 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: dalereed

This is insane. Pretty quick you’d think the populace would revolt at their dollars bailing out everybody but them. You and I have to live within our means or face the consequences, but our gov’t keeps giving away our money. My kids and grandkids may never forgive this generation who prematurely bankrupted them.


30 posted on 11/23/2008 9:28:25 PM PST by umgud (I'm really happy I wasn't aborted)
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To: Prokopton

I lost money too.
How about my bailout?
I want free taxpayer money too!


31 posted on 11/23/2008 9:33:11 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Change a Socialist can believe in: Vote Obama. Your dog and dead Gramma did.)
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To: PAR35; TigerLikesRooster; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...

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32 posted on 11/23/2008 9:33:28 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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33 posted on 11/23/2008 9:33:50 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: mathwhizz
If there are no taxes left to be paid since we all become broke or jobless and all countries stop investing in us because the value of the dollar becomes worthless and we face Weimer Republic - at what point is the U.S. technically heading here: US Bankruptcy
34 posted on 11/23/2008 9:36:50 PM PST by Lilpug15 (I'm Moving to Alaska...You can Keep THE CHANGE!)
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To: rabscuttle385; All; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Marine_Uncle; ...

Obama in the act already...GM, Ford and Chrysler up next!


35 posted on 11/23/2008 9:37:49 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: mathwhizz
Marketwatch:

U.S. agrees to bail out Citigroup: WSJ

*************************EXCERPT****************************

A similar assistance structure was used successfully in the 1990s, with funding from private investors, to rescue Mellon Bank, now called Bank of New York Mellon Corp.

36 posted on 11/23/2008 9:40:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: mathwhizz
So about a trillion and a half dollars later and we have:

Nbr of changes made to ensure this doesn't happen again: 0

Nbr of perp walks: 0

Nbr of congressional hearings: 0

Nbr of times this will happen in the future: Infinite - It works!

Charming ;(

And of course nobody in the Fed govt will have any idea where THIS $300 billion goes either.

Banks are laughing their asses off over this. THey got the feds cowed and the banks are just sitting on all this fortune and investing it in a better opportunity, earning far better earnings than they were this time last year.

37 posted on 11/23/2008 9:41:49 PM PST by ConservativeCompendium.net (We need to amend the US Constitution. We the People --> We the Politicians.)
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To: mathwhizz

So, how much of he Bush bailout/sellout money is left?


38 posted on 11/23/2008 9:42:16 PM PST by XR7
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To: hercuroc
Madness?


39 posted on 11/23/2008 9:46:27 PM PST by downwdims (If Peace is the answer it must be a stupid question)
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To: mathwhizz; All
PDF File containing the details from the Treasury :

Treasury Department statement

40 posted on 11/23/2008 9:47:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Money, Banking, and Financial Markets Ping List.

Short name: BOHICA list.

41 posted on 11/23/2008 9:48:20 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Almondjoy
Well 5 billion is 5 billion.. but it isn’t 300 billion. People need to understand what comes out of their pocket versus what comes out of private companies pocket.

The Fed is on the hook for up to $245 billion. Where do you think that money will come from?

The FDIC is on the hook for $10 billion. Where do you think that money will come from?

The U.S. Treasury is on the hook for $5 billion. Where do you think that money will come from?

We are going to end up in Great Depression II.

42 posted on 11/23/2008 9:48:31 PM PST by politicket (Barack Obama - "Chains we can believe in")
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To: XR7

Depends on how much the Fed takes on.

If they are using the last of TARP for the 350 bill guarantee then it’s all down the rabbit hole. 350 to recapitalize banks, 150 to back up AIG/European Banks, 350 to back up Citi, plus a little to grease the congressional wheels and BAM! There’s the last round in the current clip.


43 posted on 11/23/2008 9:51:21 PM PST by downwdims (If Peace is the answer it must be a stupid question)
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To: calcowgirl
Short name: BOHICA list.

Pretty much.

44 posted on 11/23/2008 9:51:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" --Patrick Henry)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Actually, it's $306 billion.

how easy people throw away 6 billion dollars.

Hells bells, I want the govt to guarantee 90% of MY debt!!! :(

45 posted on 11/23/2008 9:54:04 PM PST by ConservativeCompendium.net (We need to amend the US Constitution. We the People --> We the Politicians.)
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To: ConservativeCompendium.net

They do. Just to your lenders. They write your stuff off and take a tax break :)


46 posted on 11/23/2008 9:55:26 PM PST by downwdims (If Peace is the answer it must be a stupid question)
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To: downwdims
Nope. according to the document Earnest posted above, only 5 billion comes from Tarp. The rest comes from FDIC or the Fed will print more worthless dollars for it.
47 posted on 11/23/2008 9:55:40 PM PST by ConservativeCompendium.net (We need to amend the US Constitution. We the People --> We the Politicians.)
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To: ConservativeCompendium.net

Treasury=Fed Fed=Treasury

Read up on how Central Banks work. Thanks for playing!


48 posted on 11/23/2008 9:57:30 PM PST by downwdims (If Peace is the answer it must be a stupid question)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Not to mention the laws that assigned penalties if they didn’t.


49 posted on 11/23/2008 9:57:36 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: mathwhizz

There's some things money can't buy.
For everything else, there's Citibank Mastercard.

50 posted on 11/23/2008 9:58:28 PM PST by PressurePoint (It’s a Wall Street thing – you wouldn’t understand.)
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