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Germany declines comment on Kosovo spy report (Germans plotting war in Balkans)
Reuters ^

Posted on 11/23/2008 2:10:22 AM PST by kronos77

PRISTINA (Reuters) - Germany declined to comment on Saturday on reports that three Germans arrested on suspicion of throwing explosives at an EU office in Kosovo were intelligence officers.

The explosive charge was thrown on November 14 at the International Civilian Office (ICO), the office of EU Special Representative Pieter Feith, who oversees Kosovo's governance, but caused only minor damage. The men were detained on Thursday.

The three were questioned on Saturday by a Pristina district court judge who ordered them to be detained until December 22.

A defense lawyer told reporters that the three were suspected of having committed an act of terrorism.

A spokesman for the German Foreign Ministry in Berlin confirmed that three Germans had been arrested, but declined to make any further comment as an investigation was under way.

A police source in Kosovo told Reuters: "They are members of the BND," but gave no further details.

The German weekly Der Spiegel also said the men worked for the German intelligence agency BND, and that they had told investigators they had been examining the scene of the explosion, but had not been involved in it.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: espionage; germany; kla; kosovo; military; nato; serbia

1 posted on 11/23/2008 2:10:22 AM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 11/23/2008 2:10:46 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

GERMAN MEDIA:

Three German Spies Agents Arrested in Kosovo, Reports Say
The alleged spies said they were inspecting the blast site and were not involved in the explosion

Three Germans arrested in Kosovo on this week are allegedly spies working for a German intelligence agency, German media reported Saturday, Nov. 22. Lawmakers are demanding details of the arrests.

The three Germans were arrested Wednesday in Kosovo are agents for the Germany Federal Intelligence Agency (BND), Der Spiegel newsmagazine and the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported Saturday.

The Germans were arrested by Kosovar police in connection with an attack on the European Union’s headquarters in Pristina on Nov. 14. No one was hurt in the explosion and indications of the attack’s background or possible motives remain unclear.

The suspects were in Kosovo “in a private capacity” and had no immunity from prosecution, police spokesman Veton Elshani told the German news agency dpa.

None of the German trio were “diplomats, police, soldiers or experts with international identification,” Kosovar investigators said on Friday.

The alleged spies said they were simply inspecting damage done by the bomb’s explosion and were not involved in the attack, according to the Spiegel report.

One of the men told Kosovar authorities he was working for the BND, the daily Sueddeutsche Zeitung reported.

Opposition wants details

Parliamentarians want to know exactly what the Germans were doing in Pristina

A German government spokesman declined to speculate about the possible involvement of Berlin’s security services (BND) in the case on Friday and instead pointed to the ongoing investigations.

German politicians in the opposition have called for the government to inform a parliamentary oversight committee.

“The status has to be made clear,” Max Stadler, the free-market liberal FDP’s expert for interior affairs, told dpa on Saturday, adding that lawmakers needed to be informed regardless of whether there was sufficient material to charge the Germans.

Governments usually register their intelligence agents with foreign authorities to ensure they are covered by diplomatic immunity. Berlin failed to accredit the three agents, leaving their legal status in Kosovo unclear, according to Der Spiegel.

An EU mission is due to take over the oversight of law-enforcement in Kosovo after more than eight years of a United Nations protectorate.

Kosovo declared independence from Serbia in February. Pristina, Belgrade, the UN and EU are currently wrangling over the conditions for the deployment of the EU mission, the Eulex, comprising 2,000 police, judicial and customs officials.


3 posted on 11/23/2008 2:11:45 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
(Germans plotting war in Balkans)

Do you know more than this article states?

4 posted on 11/23/2008 2:20:31 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Those two articles are all we know.

background is following:

EULEX is unnauthorised EU mission in kosovo that Serbia have rejected and Albanians supported.
Bombing of EULEX headquorters would be seen as “Serbian terror act” and blame would fall on Serbia.
In past weeks prior to bombiong, Kosovo Albaniam authorities claimed that Serb enclaves are “nests of crime and police will crack them down”.

Bombing of EULEX HQ would be used as a “evidence” of Serbs plotting against “peace and stability” and gave “card blanche” to Albanians to kill or chase-out remaining Serbs.


5 posted on 11/23/2008 2:26:14 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

So what would the Germans stand to gain? They do not exactly have much of a standing military to fight, so what is their motive?


6 posted on 11/23/2008 2:37:55 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: kronos77

These “spies” were just photographing an EU bureau. LOL.

Hey serbia, do what the EU tells you to do and shut up.


7 posted on 11/23/2008 2:38:01 AM PST by avid
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To: Just mythoughts

German involvment in entire Blakns crysiss is vas one of the most important.
Germany sided with Albanian Muslims anda Bosnian Muslims angainst Serbs all the way from 1990-es.

They recgognised Kosovo and were one of the firmest supporters of Clinton war against Serbia in 1999.


8 posted on 11/23/2008 2:54:35 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: avid

We tako no edvices from Russian bitches.
I mean, germans...


9 posted on 11/23/2008 2:55:11 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Or Germ-ans as you will....


10 posted on 11/23/2008 2:55:44 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: avid

Arrested German spies implicated in bombing of EU office in Kosovo: report
Berlin, Nov 22, IRNA

Germany-Kosovo-BND
Three Germans arrested in Kosovo Wednesday for their alleged role in the bombing attack of the European Union (EU) headquarters in Pristina were German BND secret service agents, according to the Hamburg-based Der Spiegel news magazine which did not cite sources for its report.

Kosovar anti-terror investigators accuse the BND spies of being involved in the November 14 bomb blast of the EU office in which no one was hurt.

The BND agents claim they had merely inspected the bombing site.

The BND bureau in Berlin has yet to respond to the report.

One of the accused German operatives was seen getting into a vacant building, located next to the EU office, from where the explosive device was thrown.

The agent had reportedly photographed the damaged EU bureau.

The arrest has soured ties between Germany and Kosovo as the BND operatives were not officially registered with the Kosovan government.

The German agent trio was not part of the formal representatives of Germany’s foreign secret service.

Berlin refused to comment Friday on the BND scandal in Kosovo, pointing to the ongoing investigation.

A German Foreign Ministry spokesman did say that if it was true that any of the three were BND employees, the matter would be referred to the parliamentary control committee in charge of monitoring the intelligence services.


11 posted on 11/23/2008 2:56:53 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77
German involvment in entire Blakns crysiss is vas one of the most important. Germany sided with Albanian Muslims anda Bosnian Muslims angainst Serbs all the way from 1990-es. They recgognised Kosovo and were one of the firmest supporters of Clinton war against Serbia in 1999.

Ah, I did not remember anybody in Europe outside of the Balkans being awake when this mess erupted.

12 posted on 11/23/2008 2:58:44 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: kronos77

http://www.worldmilitaria.com/newsite/Media/HorstWesselLied.mp3


13 posted on 11/23/2008 4:42:21 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: kronos77
What's happened to the Germans? They can not blow a building up? Or they stand around after to get caught?

Obviously, the conspiracy is deeper and darker than can rationally be imagined.

14 posted on 11/23/2008 5:49:51 AM PST by Leisler ("Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever. " Lenin)
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To: kronos77

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=639.0.44.0


15 posted on 11/23/2008 6:56:04 AM PST by gitmogrunt (Please click on the link and read and forward. 100% Proof of German Intentions in the Balkans)
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To: avid

At what point in this thread will you be pulling your head out of you arse?


16 posted on 11/23/2008 7:11:38 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: farlander

Ping!

Your thoughts on this please?


17 posted on 11/23/2008 7:24:08 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: kronos77
Okay, let us pretend for a moment that Germany would be able to finance a war and then tell me where the article states such a thing.

On another note, what are the UN's policies regarding one of it's member countries declaring war on a country. Member and non-member?
18 posted on 11/23/2008 7:38:55 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: stentorian conservative

Yeah, make the the EU not UN. . .


19 posted on 11/23/2008 7:39:36 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: stentorian conservative

Well, the US is a member of the UN and the US bombed Serbia which was against the UN charter. So basically, UN membership carries no weight.


20 posted on 11/23/2008 8:01:40 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

And what evil, warmongering, Republican Administration was that?. . . Oh wait. . . .


21 posted on 11/23/2008 8:29:52 AM PST by stentorian conservative
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To: Islander7

Well, there’s been long standing speculation of direct German and Austrian involvement in the Balkan wars. Specifically, the Slovenes and the Croats were armed by Austrian and German equipment, even during the so-called arms embargo which seemed to apply only the Serbs and Muslims.

However, what specific interests Germans would have in Kosovo, now, after the whole mess... I’d be at a loss as to what their purpose/interest would be. Seems to me they’d have a vested interest in the whole place (Balkans) being as quiet and as calm as can possibly be, as they have other issues to deal with (economic crisis, resurgent Russia...)

Who knows. One thing I will say is that the Balkans is a conspiracy theory central. Everything that can be imagined about anything in the world generally is imagined down there.


22 posted on 11/23/2008 10:01:18 AM PST by farlander (Try not to wear milk bone underwear - it's a dog eat dog financial world)
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To: farlander
"Who knows. One thing I will say is that the Balkans is a conspiracy theory central. Everything that can be imagined about anything in the world generally is imagined down there."

And is quite often true. This is largely because the Balkans has been used as Europe's chessboard for centuries. Everybody from the Turks to the Germans to even the French have screwed around in Balkan politics.

When it come to Germany, think Drang Nach Osten -- The Drive Eastward-- tried WWI, WWII and in the 1990's. Originally, Poland & Czechoslovakia were the targets, but the Balkans proved much less protected and more vulnerable.

There are German fingerprints all over the destruction of Yugoslavia, including the faked BND report that was used as an excuse for the 1999 NATO Bombing.

Germany blamed Serbia for WWI and its aftermath in Germany. WWII, Germany bombed the crap out of Belgrade in Operation Punishment, one of the first terror bombings of the war and it killed thousands. But Operation Punishment and Serb resistance cost Germany precious time, delaying Operation Barbarossa into Russia, and this is what cost Germany the war. (I also recall reading, during the 1999 NATO Bombing of Yugoslavia, that one of the NATO pilots was the grandson of one of the Luftwaffe pilots who had bombed Belgrade in 1941.)

Lots of bad blood between Germany and Serbia, going back nearly a century -- and Germans are not exactly the forgiving type.

23 posted on 11/23/2008 10:38:02 AM PST by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

“Lots of bad blood between Germany and Serbia...”

And there is lots of bad blood between US citizens that were outraged at Clinton’s cowardly bombing of Serbian civilians, to benefit Muslims who wanted half the Serbian land - and got it.


24 posted on 11/23/2008 3:17:56 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Just mythoughts

Probably the Albanians did it and blamed it on Germans to cover it up. The EU has not recognized Kosovo and the EU mission wants to agree with the Serbs to remain neutral on the question, so some K-Albanians are against the EU mission.


25 posted on 11/23/2008 10:17:28 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Probably the Albanians did it and blamed it on Germans to cover it up. The EU has not recognized Kosovo and the EU mission wants to agree with the Serbs to remain neutral on the question, so some K-Albanians are against the EU mission.

I do not know, but your probably is about as good as anything else I have read/heard. I really do not see how it would be in particular, Germany's interest to plot a war anywhere.

26 posted on 11/24/2008 2:28:50 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: stentorian conservative

The Billary years, oh the memories....


27 posted on 11/24/2008 7:50:43 AM PST by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: kronos77

In 2005 the BND (apparently intentionally) leaked a memo on Thaçi exposing his connections to organized crime. German newspapers are now speculating that Thaçi is holding a grudge against the BND which lead to the arrest of the German agents. The German agents were indeed only documenting the damages done to the EU office.


28 posted on 11/25/2008 12:49:08 PM PST by avid
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To: avid

Most probably true.

But Albanian clash with Germans will ultimatley lead to fall of Albanians...


29 posted on 11/25/2008 3:01:46 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77

Look at this ; -) Who gets along accustomed to the absurd finds himself usually very well.
The whole thing is amusing.
When the Foundling bites it babysitter in her tits helps only one thing: Mrs. Merkel recognizes the Kosovo simply once again, double-recognition so to speak. And then the German Federal Intelligence Service may also invite this catchpoles of UCK officially, lastly these funny Hadliner this fasist criminal organisation is receiving pensions in millions to “reintegrate” into this absurd “Statehood” by the European Union which was afraid it will never be able to cop with their criminal activities
Now let us wait for the time till the USA dances into this state to install its anti-missile defense toys in army bases of the former JNA. Then this Ex-Jugo Gang will play that real trump card for blackmail so Mrs Clinton can finish what her husband has started.
I have been working in this gulaq for 3 years, poor idiots...


30 posted on 11/27/2008 7:48:18 AM PST by Agilis
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To: kronos77

What I don’t get is, how does photographing the site of the attack make you the terrorist. Although I’m in Germany, maybe I missed something in the news because of that. Still, the case built against them seems non existent to me.


31 posted on 11/30/2008 5:19:38 AM PST by PoliticsAndSausages
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