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Vatican forgives John Lennon for Jesus quip
reuters ^ | November 22, 2008

Posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:20 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican's newspaper has finally forgiven John Lennon for declaring that the Beatles were more famous than Jesus Christ, calling the remark a "boast" by a young man grappling with sudden fame.

The comment by Lennon to a London newspaper in 1966 infuriated Christians, particularly in the United States, some of whom burned Beatles' albums in huge pyres.

But time apparently heals all wounds.

"The remark by John Lennon, which triggered deep indignation mainly in the United States, after many years sounds only like a 'boast' by a young working-class Englishman faced with unexpected success, after growing up in the legend of Elvis and rock and roll," Vatican daily Osservatore Romano said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beatles; johnlennon; vatican

1 posted on 11/22/2008 5:05:21 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What was their hurry?


2 posted on 11/22/2008 5:07:53 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (All points of view tolerated...as long as they agree with mine.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As much as I Respect the Holy Father, I would have thought forgiving John Lennon of his blasphemy would have been above the Pope’s pay grade...


3 posted on 11/22/2008 5:11:39 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The Reuters reporter didn’t even get the story right.Lennon said the Beetles were more “popular” than Jesus.


4 posted on 11/22/2008 5:11:55 PM PST by Krankor (Are you claiming you eat toucans or)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I always thought Lennon was lamenting the idea, not celebrating it.


5 posted on 11/22/2008 5:14:14 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Past Your Eyes

Yeah, I’m pretty sure John Lennon’s still dead. A great creative talent, but not really a great intellect. Those two thing seldom reside in the same person. I’m surpised the Vatican would even bother to comment.


6 posted on 11/22/2008 5:18:26 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Billthedrill

As with most quotes which sparked controversy, it was taken out of context.


7 posted on 11/22/2008 5:19:22 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I remember when Lennon said it. Late 1966 or early 1967.

The air was polluted with burning vinyl. You do remember vinyl records don’t you?


8 posted on 11/22/2008 5:20:44 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (NEVER FORGET TREASON!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m old enough to remember Beatlemania.

It was like Obama but with substance—at least John Paul George and Ringo had actually done something to warrant the world’s worship.Sure their music was not exactly the Sermon on The Mount,but unlike Obama,they DID SOMETHING!

Ignorant starry-eyed idol worshiping morons of the 60s were a whole lot smarter than those today.


9 posted on 11/22/2008 5:21:48 PM PST by Happy Rain ("Happiness is a warm gun over a cold tyrant .")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Only 42 years later. Dang. That church really holds a grudge.
Guess they finally took another gander at the scriptures?


10 posted on 11/22/2008 5:31:28 PM PST by Ozarkie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sorry, but it’s not his apology that counts.


11 posted on 11/22/2008 5:44:15 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I still remember the stories of people burning their Beatle albums in my hometown. I wasn’t about to part with my Rubber Soul and Yesterday And Today albums though. Rubber Soul is an alltime masterpiece!


12 posted on 11/22/2008 6:00:24 PM PST by Ammo Republic 15
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s nice of the Vatican to forgive Lennon but from the sound of it, the Vatican is forgiving Lennon for completely the wrong reason. Seriously, for 40 years now a good portion of us have known the gist of the remark he made that brought so much controversy, and the man must have explained it a hundred times during their ‘66 US tour.


13 posted on 11/22/2008 6:02:26 PM PST by SiVisPacemParaBellum (Peace through superior firepower!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I forgave John Lennon years ago for this stupid remark. Today I think the Vatican needs to be more worried about whether or not Jesus is more popular than Muhammad.
14 posted on 11/22/2008 6:18:52 PM PST by LiberConservative (Typical white guy)
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To: Billthedrill
I always thought Lennon was lamenting the idea, not celebrating it.

So did I.

Funny how people want to be famous, until they get famous. 

15 posted on 11/22/2008 6:23:51 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Stupid people shouldn't breed.)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Apologists try to explain the quote away, but the full quote was:

“Christianity will go. It will vanish and shrink. I needn’t argue with that; I’m right and I will be proved right. We’re more popular than Jesus now; I don’t know which will go first - rock ‘n’ roll or Christianity. Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It’s them twisting it that ruins it for me.”

So, on balance, Jesus comes out as “all right” in Lennon’s profound analysis.


16 posted on 11/22/2008 7:18:22 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Philo-Junius

Really the remarks of someone who was taking himself way too seriously at the time. Long after he has gone and has even been forgotten completely Christianity will still be here. The church has always waxed and waned - it seems that when people have it too good that they abandon the church and her teachings for the easy life but when times get tough (and they surely will again and soon) people return to the one true source of hope and inspiration.

Mel


17 posted on 11/22/2008 7:29:45 PM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Philo-Junius

The Beatles just never was something that I simply had to know everything about, and I was 10 years old at the time.


18 posted on 11/22/2008 7:36:03 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (Stupid people shouldn't breed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I thought he just said that they “were more popular than Rod”, as in Rod Stewart.

Oh wait, that was The Rutles.


19 posted on 11/22/2008 7:43:28 PM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: dfwgator

Oh, what the heck, let’s post the full story of that incident in the fictional career of the Rutles:

In 1966 the Rutles faced the biggest threat to their careers. Nasty in a widely quoted interview had apparently claimed that the Rutles were bigger than God, and was reported to have gone on to say that God had never had a hit record.

The story spread like wildfire in America. Many fans burnt their albums, many more burnt their fingers attempting to burn their albums. Album sales sky-rocketed. People were buying them just to burn them.

But in fact it was all a ghastly mistake. Nasty, talking to a slightly deaf journalist, had claimed only that the Rutles were bigger than Rod. Rod Stewart would not be big for another eight years, and certainly at this stage hadn’t had a hit. At a press conference, Nasty apologized to God, Rod and the press, and the tour went ahead as planned.


20 posted on 11/22/2008 7:57:29 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Billthedrill

You’re exactly right.


21 posted on 11/22/2008 8:15:00 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Our man in washington

That was a funny show.


22 posted on 11/22/2008 8:19:02 PM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: SiVisPacemParaBellum

“and the man must have explained it a hundred times during their ‘66 US tour.”

Correct. For those who haven’t heard it here’s one of those explanations,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ6NL3iNNMs&NR=1


23 posted on 11/23/2008 2:54:30 AM PST by Mila
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To: Free ThinkerNY

what? no fatwa? no beheading? or burning and hanging from a bridge?


24 posted on 11/23/2008 4:29:05 PM PST by Ancient Drive (will)
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