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Coal industry 'pensive' about Obama
Lexington Herald-Leader ^ | Saturday, Nov. 22, 2008 | JIM SUHR

Posted on 11/22/2008 1:16:42 PM PST by nickcarraway

Bill Raney considers coal golden. After all, the black rock fuels half of the nation's electrical generation.

But the West Virginia Coal Association's president and others in the industry say they've received mixed messages about president-elect Barack Obama's support for coal-fired power.

Obama and vice president-elect Joe Biden both have said they support finding cleaner ways to burn coal. But during the campaign, Obama told a newspaper that electricity rates could soar under his energy plan, while Biden told a voter in Ohio that "we're not supporting clean coal" - though he has said the U.S. should develop clean coal technology and export it to China.

"I think there's a great deal of pensiveness," Raney said.

Others, including Obama's camp, say they see little reason to worry.

SNIP


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho2008; coal; coalindustry; energy; obama; obamatransitionfile; umw; wv2008

1 posted on 11/22/2008 1:16:42 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Whistling past the graveyard...


2 posted on 11/22/2008 1:18:19 PM PST by null and void (0bama is Gorbachev treating a dying system with the same poison that's killing it in the first place)
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To: nickcarraway

Wow... talk about a day late and a prayer short.


3 posted on 11/22/2008 1:19:28 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

“prayer late and a day short?” ;)


4 posted on 11/22/2008 1:21:34 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: nickcarraway
""I think there's a great deal of pensiveness," Raney said. "

Understatement of the year award.
5 posted on 11/22/2008 1:25:17 PM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: nickcarraway

A simpleton wishes.


6 posted on 11/22/2008 1:25:39 PM PST by boomop1
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To: nickcarraway

They could start a band: ‘Ex pensive ex coalminers”. Nice vote, guys.

We have enough coal to power our cities until hell freezes, for all the good it will ever do us....


7 posted on 11/22/2008 1:26:32 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: Safrguns
These guys [coal associations in the producing states] were on it during the election. They warned folks that the 'Thug-elect' would wind up screwing them but they voted for the fool anyway.

What was the 'Thug-elect's' statement about "Sure, you can build a coal plant, but it will be expensive..." [paraphrased].

I have no pity for them.

8 posted on 11/22/2008 1:26:42 PM PST by realdifferent1 ("If you saw Atlas,...what would you tell him to do?"... "To shrug.")
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t forget the vast Utah deposits of a very-clean-burning coal were declared off-limits when Clinton made the area a “national parkland”. Indonesia has the only other large deposits of this kind of coal. Indonesians also got caught funnelling gobs of cash to Clinton. Strange coincidence, that.


9 posted on 11/22/2008 1:28:53 PM PST by Teacher317 (Well, at least we know Obama isn't the anti-Christ. Satan would have more class.)
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To: Teacher317

Pensive? Pensive?? He said he wants to bankrupt anyone who tries to start a coal mine and they’re...pensive?? Panicked would be the proper reaction.


10 posted on 11/22/2008 1:30:10 PM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh, then they did not hear the big “O” when he plainly said that he meant to flat “bankrupt” the coal industry with emissions taxes, and that electricity would “of necessity” shoot through the roof in cost. Hello?!! - and still they supported him. I suppose they thought he was just lying that time . . . what if the lie is leveled at them instead of his environmental base? More likely, that.

Oh, I know that coal mining is not the most glamorous sort of job and I wish I could get every coal miner to do another job; but I have to consider the idea that maybe some people simply LIKE their jobs even if it isn’t what I would think they need to be doing. - Can anybody say, “ready for REALLY high electric bills, Obamabots?!”


11 posted on 11/22/2008 1:30:30 PM PST by Twinkie (REPENT! Look Up! The Lord's Return Is At Hand . . . . .)
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To: Safrguns

And yet the sheep voted for him. Unbelievable.


12 posted on 11/22/2008 1:30:57 PM PST by hkp123
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To: realdifferent1

The mineworkers leadership were all on board with BHO. Of course, union leaders dont lose their jobs. Only the suckers who support them by paying dues.


13 posted on 11/22/2008 1:31:08 PM PST by doosee
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To: nickcarraway
I guess they were pensive while they were voting for Obama. Obama laid his cards on the table and the Coal miner unions and coal state Democrats bet on him anyway. Fools...
14 posted on 11/22/2008 1:33:00 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: doosee

If the suckers don’t work, what use are the unions or their leaders? Who then pays the union thugs? I know: zerO does.


15 posted on 11/22/2008 1:35:03 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: nickcarraway
"Coal Mine Explosion coincides with presidential visit."

No survivors.

16 posted on 11/22/2008 1:35:13 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: realdifferent1
I have no pity for them

I don't, either. The UMW turned handsprings for Obortion. Let him shut them down. They can cry to their Savior for help (unemployment).

Ohbomba says he's going to bankrupt operators of coal plants. He's a closet anti-nuke. So he says we have to develop "renewable" power, presumably pipe dreams like wind and solar. Wind doesn't work when the wind doesn't blow and solar doesn't work at night, which, last I checked, occurred a least once a day for about half the hours in a day. At most, if fully developed, those will supply maybe 20%-25% of our needs on an intermittent basis. So where do we go for the other 75%-80%? Odouchebag doesn't say. I think he's probably pretty much brainless when it comes to energy matters.

17 posted on 11/22/2008 1:36:04 PM PST by chimera
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To: nickcarraway

The people that voted for him are the same ones that mostly depend on coal for their heating and a lot of them live in the coldest parts of the country.


18 posted on 11/22/2008 1:37:11 PM PST by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nickcarraway

The Unions get what they deserve, especially the UAW.

Pray for W, Palin and Our Troops


19 posted on 11/22/2008 1:37:54 PM PST by bray (All thats left of my 401K is a little Change and very little Hope.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Pensive???”

They ought to be downright terrified about the likelihood of their economic lifeblood being drained out of them.


20 posted on 11/22/2008 1:38:12 PM PST by ScottinVA (Gloucester County, VA -- Standing for America! 63% for McCain-Palin on 4 Nov)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s like being pensive about having given birth. The fun is just beginning.


21 posted on 11/22/2008 1:44:30 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: nickcarraway

Hey someone should tell the Coal Workers to get their PAC board leader the f**k out of dodge and start backing candidates who wont pack the unemployment lines with coal workers. When that happens, then I’ll give a sh*t about their plight.


22 posted on 11/22/2008 1:48:28 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (It Should be Immediate OPEN SEASON on all RHINO's and PUMA's.)
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To: nickcarraway

Don’t worry Coal Guys! Once Obama bankrupts your industry, you can just apply for a bailout like everyone else.


23 posted on 11/22/2008 2:03:58 PM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: nickcarraway

“Coal industry ‘pensive’ about Obama”

Yet, the United Mine Workers Unions still voted for him over McCain.

Cry me a river.


24 posted on 11/22/2008 2:07:43 PM PST by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: WaterBoard
Yeah, that will mystify me for years to come. He SAID he would bankrupt the coal industry and yet western Pennsylvania voted for him anyway. 0bama said they ‘cling to their guns and religion’ and they voted for him anyway. Murtha called his own constituents racists and rednecks and they voted for him anyway. What were these people thinking??
25 posted on 11/22/2008 2:49:10 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: nickcarraway

Mixed messages? I guess I didn’t hear the other side, where Obama said, “The hell with Global Warming! Full speed ahead! Clean Coal! Nuclear! Offshore drilling!

Must have missed that part. I just heard the part about putting on carbon caps and bankrupting the industry.


26 posted on 11/22/2008 2:58:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nickcarraway

Why do people continually hope these guys won’t do what they say they are going to do?

They said they were going to export all the polluting industries overseas, and they have to a large extent.

Forget coal, and next on the horizon, exporting our agriculture.


27 posted on 11/22/2008 3:00:48 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: nickcarraway
"Pensive" is just plain ignor'nt!
28 posted on 11/22/2008 3:01:22 PM PST by bannie
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To: originalbuckeye

Maybe McCain should have called for an investigation on voter fraud here. It’s just amazing that these people would just take these comments and vote dem anyway. The whole election was probably won by fraud.


29 posted on 11/22/2008 3:01:35 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Twinkie
Say good bye to manufacturing industries with electricity prices skyrocketing.
The most economically successful states have low energy rates of 7-9 cents per kw/hr and their power generation is with coal.
While natural gas burns clean but has the highest cost with kw/hr rates of 12c and up.
It's coal that provides jobs on the digging and usage sides.
30 posted on 11/22/2008 3:05:45 PM PST by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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To: nickcarraway
Obama thinks there's such a thing as “clean coal” that comes straight out of the earth.
These poor dumb coal miners just voted themselves out of jobs.
31 posted on 11/22/2008 3:07:49 PM PST by tobyhill (Why did Obama not cross the road? He has no guts!)
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To: dandiegirl

I suspect there was voter fraud across the board. Nothing will come of it as our Justice Department seems to fear riling the masses more than it feels the need to enforce the law. There are so many fronts that should be investigated yet there seems to be no will to bother. ACORN; illegal campaign contributions (foreign money involved; many contributions at the $200 limit but with the same names so no need to report them; disabling the program that would match names and credit card numbers for Internet contributions); birthplace controversy; shady real estate deals, etc., etc., etc. The list of illegality is endless. No one who has control over the possible investigation of all this corruption seems to care.


32 posted on 11/22/2008 3:14:46 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: nickcarraway
black rock fuels half of the nation's electrical generation

OK, so our electric bill go up, up, up...and we just purchased one of those economical EdenPur heaters. Can't win for losing with these people. I wish they didn't hate western culture so much.

33 posted on 11/22/2008 3:25:30 PM PST by ncpatriot
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To: ncpatriot
OK, so our electric bill go up, up, up...and we just purchased one of those economical EdenPur heaters. Can't win for losing with these people. I wish they didn't hate western culture so much.

I see an increase in prosecutions for timber trespass.

34 posted on 11/22/2008 3:32:04 PM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes you dumb@$$e$ your union told you to vote for him to benefit them not you! How stupid can you be?


35 posted on 11/22/2008 3:37:40 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: nickcarraway

“PENSIVE??” You guys are going to be out of work soon. You should have researched this Kenyan like many of us did, there was enough information from the get-go that told us what we needed to hear.

Now we will all pay the price—dearly. And thanks a lot for following your union bosses orders. NOT.


36 posted on 11/22/2008 3:38:26 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: nickcarraway

They voted for him even after they were told.


37 posted on 11/22/2008 3:39:29 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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To: dandiegirl

Did you all vote today on World net Daily regarding Obama’s birth certiificate.
It needs your vote...


38 posted on 11/22/2008 3:56:59 PM PST by mendedheart
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To: nickcarraway

West Virgina is very close to DC. So is Pennsylvania. Get 100,000 coal miners and families members march on those pukes and tell them what’s what


39 posted on 11/22/2008 4:00:12 PM PST by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: nickcarraway
Message to the United Mine Workers: SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!
40 posted on 11/22/2008 5:21:43 PM PST by End_Clintonism_Now (POLITICAL DISSIDENT as of 11/4/08)
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To: nickcarraway

The people voted for him, let them freeze in the dark. What better way to de-industrialize the U.S. than to stop mining the fuel that supplies half of our electriciy. Next, firewood sales and woodstoves will be banned on the federal level, and you will have to pay capital gains tax on your backyard vegetable garden.


41 posted on 11/22/2008 5:29:57 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: dennisw

The miners will march for Obama. They are part of the 95% waiting for their tax cut.


42 posted on 11/22/2008 5:31:38 PM PST by doosee
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To: Teacher317

There’s real money to be made in government generated scarcity.


43 posted on 11/22/2008 5:33:00 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: Twinkie

“Can anybody say, “ready for REALLY high electric bills, Obamabots?!””

That’s assuming that electricity is available. Knock out half of the supply, and you will only get electricity half the time. Can you say “rolling blackouts” and “electricity rationing”?


44 posted on 11/22/2008 5:39:19 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: Steamburg

Yeah, it’s going to be a lot of fun when NYC, Chicago, and L.A. only get electricity for a few hours every day.


45 posted on 11/22/2008 5:44:47 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: brushcop

A lot of people are going to be out of work soon, not just union lackies. Hard to work without energy for production.


46 posted on 11/22/2008 5:50:34 PM PST by factoryrat (Better living through American Industrial Might.)
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To: factoryrat

Yes, I know it, this is what makes it so frustrating and why it is important to be an INFORMED voter. God help and guide us.


47 posted on 11/22/2008 6:02:01 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: factoryrat

Well, we got our wood stove and oil lamps back during the Y2K thing. I cooked dinner tonight in the wood stove coals. Sigh. Guess I need to get used to figuring out some other way to wash clothes other than in my little automatic washer and dryer. - I don’t have a large pressure canner, only a small one, but I guess I’ll need to get serious about doing stuff the hard way like my grandma did. I’m a step ahead in that I do have a small clothesline on my side porch. I guess one of those wash tubs with a manual wringer on it will do . . . We have deer out here and the river is just down back of us for fishing. I’m getting chickens soon for the eggs and some for meat (if I can get my husband to deal with that). My grandma used to grab up one of her chickens, wring its neck, scald and pluck it, and cook it right up. Gulp . . . . . I guess I’ll make deer jerky and can some as well . . . already have the organic raised bed garden, stored wheat, corn, powdered milk . . . sigh . . . I’m too old for this nonsense . . .


48 posted on 11/22/2008 7:11:46 PM PST by Twinkie (REPENT! Look Up! The Lord's Return Is At Hand . . . . .)
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