Posted on 11/21/2008 8:44:13 AM PST by STARWISE
Do you wonder why 2008 election data shows that the majority of Catholics voted for Barack Obama even though his record as Illinois state senator proves him the most pro-abortion candidate who ever ran for president?
Perhaps one answer is that on the Sunday before Thanksgiving, millions of Catholics will again be putting in their church's collection plate their annual donation to what the pre-printed envelope calls "Campaign for Human Development: The Catholic Church working to end poverty and injustice in America; We'll turn your dollars into hope for the poor of our nation."
The generous Catholics who respond to that well-phrased appeal probably think they are making a Good Samaritan gift to provide necessaries to the down-and-out. Most would probably be shocked to learn that the money donated to the Campaign for Human Development (CHD) does not go for charity but for radical Obama-style community organizing.
Over the last 10 years, CHD has given $7.3 million of Catholic-donated dollars to the Saul Alinsky-style group called ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now).
When in 1998 some Catholics complained that CHD grants were not used for Catholic charity but were actually funding groups opposed to church teachings, CHD changed its name to Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD).
(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...
"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday."
Saul Alinsky explained his community organizing tactics in his book "Rules for Radicals." His game plan was to divide the community into the Haves and the Have Nots, make the Have Nots believe they are unjustly treated by the Haves, build resentment against the American social and economic system, use church congregations to mobilize street agitators, and lobby government for higher taxes and big-spending welfare programs in order to confiscate the wealth and power of the Haves and turn it over to the Have Nots.
Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom."
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I have never given a dime to the Campaign for Human Development, after I read a list of their charities the first year they went into business. And I also never give a dime to Catholic Charities, since some of their money goes to good causes and some is diverted to very questionable ones.
Support your parish—the building needs to be heated and maintained. Support your bishop, even though some of the funds may go astray—but we still need to keep the diocese going. But when it comes to charities, donate to the outfits that are really working for good, not the Communist ones.
Giving to Catholic Charities is like giving to the RNC. Some of the money may do some good, but others will go to help RINOs defeat conservatives. Target your donations to REAL Catholic charities and causes, like Priests for Life or the Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist (look them up).
Until I get conclusive information from either my church or the archdiocese, I won’t contribute. It’s strangely difficult for me to get that info in 4 tries, especially in light of this:
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Catholic bishops cut all funding to ACORN
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14309
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Sick.
Catholic church, pro-abortion and pro-ACORN.
before flaming me the CC has for 35 years done NOTHING to pols who support abortion.
Young Alinsky lives in Medfield,MA...a *very* swanky suburb of Boston.One of the richest in state,in fact.Lots of horses in that town...if ya catch my drift.His house is assessed by the town at about $500K which means that it could bring $750K at least.Above is a picture of the house from the Town of Medifield's official website.
I guess that being the son of a Maoist agitator is a pretty profitable deal these days.
Medfield is a very nice town. Property taxes must be pretty high.
CCHD Catholic Campaign for Human Development PING
All these religious groups, Catholic and mainstream Protestant, contriibute to all kinds of organizations which are workinig to undermine western civilization.
Lots of the money goes to political activists like ACORN, and others to anti-war, pacifist, and anti-gun groups.
Unless the Christian rank and file wake up, take a stand, stop being sheep, and demnad that their clergy and churches stop this slipping an sliding towards third worldism, our desecedants will be growing up as Muslims.
Agreed. Catholic, Protestant or Evanagelical money going to groups like ACORN, La Raza, LULAC and others are used to help Islam. This ACORN money will be used to harm Christians and kill babies thorugh unrestricted abortions.
Raymond Arroyo on World Over Last Friday on EWTN that the Bishop in charge of the CAMPAING FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT said that no monies were given to ACORN.
When Arroyo questioned the Bishop, the bishop agreed that while the monies in fact are fungible and could be used for the ACORN project.
The best thing that anybody can do is to not donate to the CAMPAIN FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT this Sunday, November 23, 2008.
Since money is fungible, there is a good possibility that the Diocese will assess the parish for the monies that are not collected from their regular collections. There is a precedent for this action in the diocese of Atlanta. When Archbishop Wilton Gregory does not collect enough money for his ANNUAL BISHOPS APPEAL. The Parish is assesed for the monies that are not donated to the Diocese from their regular collections which represents 70% of the weekly collections. Archbishop Wilton Gregory gets 30% of our weekly support to the Parish.
Remember these Bishops and Cardinals with the exception of a few Bishops like Martino nare politicians and they want to advance their careets and be included in the social Cirles like Obama, Ted Kennedy, Bob Casey Jr, and the other Pro Abortion Politicians.
People should never give to feeder charities, the ones that do nothing but redistribute the money to other charities (United Way being the mother load of all beasts). Everyone’s parish should have a food pantry and each Diocese should have a local chapter of St. Vincent de Paul Society for clothing. The only thing Catholic Charities is good for is rental and utility assistance.
“Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer, “the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom.”
Only temporarily, though.
I contribute to my parish, to the FSSP, and occasionaly to EWTN. I don’t trust anything else.
Agreed. I also stopped giving to United Way many years ago, to the annoyance of my employer. They take their cut before they pass the money on to real charities, and some of the charities they support are very dubious.
Looks like $750K doesn’t buy much these days.
Lies.
The Church is wondering why 52% of Catholics voted for live birth abortions when the Church is paying for them???
But Saul Alinsky forgot that in the end, THE REAL MESSIAH DEFEATS the enemy.
I wish it were lies.
For over 30 the Catholic Church has stood by and said NOTHING when Catholic pro-abortion pols have chanted their chant of death to the unborn. And the Catholic Church did nothing, it has only been recently that they arestarting to take a stand.
We’ll know the church means business when someone like Teddy Kenndy is thrown OUT.
Until then they are supporting abortion, which about 50 percent of Cathloics do, BTW.
and concerning ACORN, well ACORN supports abortion and the church gave them money for years.
The church has been giving the devil his dues to go forth and murder the unborn.
The Catholic Church is not pro-abortion. Any claim to the contrary is a lie.
False.
I assume you are extrapolating from the vote for Obama, in which self-identified Catholics of all races voted in aggregate exactly like the overall U.S. vote of all races (54% Obama, 46% McCain), and white Catholics who go to Mass weekly voted exactly like white Evangelicals: 26% Obama, 74% McCain, according to a Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life analysis.
Likewise the Catholic Church is not "paying for partial birth abortions." The CCHD -- scandalously --- paid $7+ million over the last 10 years to ACORN, but ACORN doesn't do partial-birth abortions, or abortions of any kind. They do Alinsky-style organizing, which is aggravating enough, and they did what they could to gin up voters -- drunk and sober, living and dead --- for Obama, but Planned Parenthood they are not.
So your hyperbole is overheated, ill-targeted, and offensive. Why do you say such things?
>>Why do you say such things?<<
You don’t really have to ask, do you?
Anyone noticing you really can’t tell the difference between politics and religion anymore? They just say what they want and do what they want. They both will use fear to push you in the direction they want for purely selfish and self serving motives. Amazing how similiar bedfellows will become!!
Other than excommunicating, denying communion and publicly denouncing stupid statements by Pelosi and the likes, what do you want the Church to do?
A Catholic pol who is pro-abort excommunicates himself automatically (Canon law 751, 1364).
I read somewhere recently that Catholic Charities isn’t giving any more money to Acorn. A bit late, but welcome all the same.
Shameful statement.
The Catholic Church is completely pro-life .. ALL life.
The fleeting ideology and practices of man, unacceptably, may not be.
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“Abortion
2270 Human life must be respected and protected absolutely from the moment of conception. From the first moment of his existence, a human being must be recognized as having the rights of a person - among which is the inviolable right of every innocent being to life.72
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.73
My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately wrought in the depths of the earth.74
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2271 Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law:
You shall not kill the embryo by abortion and shall not cause the newborn to perish.75
God, the Lord of life, has entrusted to men the noble mission of safeguarding life, and men must carry it out in a manner worthy of themselves. Life must be protected with the utmost care from the moment of conception: abortion and infanticide are abominable crimes.”
http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm#I
“It is way past time that these people were forced to pay property taxes.”
I hope so, then the priests would have the free speech to tell the congregation not to vote for antilife candidates (which they already do), but be able to name NAMES (like Obama, et al).
“Catholic church, pro-abortion and pro-ACORN.”
No, they were just too trusting, and did not investigate ACORN well enough.
I heard that they will not be contributing to ACORN this year. Does anyone know if that’s true?
Thread which shows that Bishops cut off ACORN when they found out how corrupt ACORN is:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2135965/posts?page=1
Neither my church nor the archdiocese will confirm this.
I’m not contributing unless I get verification.
If they finally do confirm this, please let us know.
It’s so important to get to the bottom of this.
I have an idea: The Penny Protest.
Put one penny in an envelope, with a note, stating that as long as Catholic bishops and priests continue to refuse to speak out and do nothing to excommunicate pro-abortion politicians, they will not get more than that one penny a week.
Four pennies a month should get their attention. Spread the idea around to your Catholic friends!
Here are the latest updates on this:
U.S. Bishops Cut All Funding to ACORN, Activities Funded Hard to Determine
Bishop discusses reasons behind cutoff of ACORN funding
Catholic Church drops ACORN funding
And the organ needs to be tuned. PLEASE, don't forget such things. It's an issue in my parish. We don't have the cash to tune and repair a $2 million instrument for less than $5k. There's also the wine, the wafers, sending the vestments to the dry cleaner, etc. Put a request on the memo line on your check if you have to.
Our priest announced after Mass last week that a building inspector had been around and told him that he needed to replace or upgrade the elevator between the main floor and the basement, which is used for coffee, meetings, choir practice, library, and the like. Estimated cost: $50,000. And we’re having problems paying the heating bills or maintaining the cemetery.
He said the church would be “shut down” in a year if it isn’t done. Interesting. How would that play out with the Constitution?
When will people come to their senses and realize that this sort of unfunded government mandate is destroying our country and is no longer affordable?
That is Obama’s position on abortion.
52% of Catholics voted for him.
There should have been 0% Catholics voting for him, in my opinion.
You got that right, FReeper FRiend.
See. We agree. ;)
Bzzzzt. False.
We now know without a doubt whose side he is on - as if we didn’t before ...
***some of the charities they support are very dubious***
Like Planned Parenthood - the country’s largest abortion provider.
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