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Early, absentee voting pushed Obama to win in Florida
AP ^

Posted on 11/20/2008 3:30:23 PM PST by Chet 99

MIAMI (AP) — More Floridians voted for John McCain than Barack Obama on Election Day, but the Democrat sealed his victory in the state by winning more early and absentee votes.

An Associated Press study of 94 percent of the state's total shows that the Republican beat Obama by almost 5 percentage points on Nov. 4, but Obama trumped McCain by 11 percentage points in early and absentee balloting. Overall, Obama beat McCain 51.4 percent to 48.6 percent in Florida, becoming only the third Democrat in 11 presidential elections to carry the state.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bho2008; earlyvoting; fl2008; swingstates

1 posted on 11/20/2008 3:30:23 PM PST by Chet 99
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To: Chet 99

What they really mean is “Early Cheating”


2 posted on 11/20/2008 3:31:47 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Chet 99

Second home owners who feel it’s ok to vote in two states.


3 posted on 11/20/2008 3:31:57 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy

I voted absentee here in FL. I hope they tallied my votes to the right people!


4 posted on 11/20/2008 3:33:09 PM PST by brytlea (You can fool enough of the people enough of the time.)
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To: Chet 99

Actually, what propelled him to victory were nonvoting Republicans. In Ohio, Obama got 40,000 less votes than Kerry did in 2004 but won by 200,000. McCain got 300,000 less votes than W did in 2004. This race was so winnable. *sigh*


5 posted on 11/20/2008 3:36:37 PM PST by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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To: Chet 99

Probaby those absentee “Snowbirds” from New York, still up in the rotten apple so they could vote twice.

The American Electoral process has so many hole in it you could a Marxist Islamophile on a camel through one - and we did!!


6 posted on 11/20/2008 3:39:11 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Chet 99

Wonder if they got Mickey Mouse’s absentee vote?


7 posted on 11/20/2008 3:39:44 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: eureka!

Those non-voting Republicans and third-party voting conservatives should get rashes on their genitalia and around their noses.


8 posted on 11/20/2008 3:48:48 PM PST by fortunate sun (Proud Palinista!)
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To: eureka!

Winnable it was. No Palin appearance here in South Florida, three McCain appearances in Miami only, and one at midnight on a Sunday, volunteers that went unused here in Broward...especially in the early voting poll watcher area.

Once the new leadership is installed, I plan to write a snail mail letter letting the RNC national chair as well as the Florida chair know exactly what I saw on the ground. Say what you will about W, he and his people did know how to run a campaign.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 3:50:16 PM PST by lovesdogs (Take heart...we are a resilient nation. Just ask Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Chet 99
VOTER FRAUD
10 posted on 11/20/2008 3:50:59 PM PST by pabianice
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To: Chet 99
This early voting is for the birds. It is an open invitation to fraud. This of course explains why the Dem's like it.

Also where in the constitution is early voting mentioned. It explains the time for Election Day not election month.

11 posted on 11/20/2008 4:01:31 PM PST by Jim from C-Town
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To: Jim from C-Town

Most of my friends here in California voted early. I don’t get it. I think Election Day is Election Day. Saying it’s easier is, to me, an argument for taking away your vote. A tiny group of bedridden people could vote absentee but why everybody?


12 posted on 11/20/2008 4:05:17 PM PST by SoCalRight
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To: Chet 99

Early voting may have helped Obama in FLA, but nothing compared to the assist AP gave him nationwide.


13 posted on 11/20/2008 4:08:39 PM PST by skeeter (Its Barry's fault)
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To: fortunate sun

Agreed. 4.1 million of them in total less GOP voters. That’s a lot of rash...


14 posted on 11/20/2008 4:11:17 PM PST by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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To: Chet 99

The GOP should consider running appealing, small government conservatives. If they want to win, that is.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 4:13:44 PM PST by mysterio
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To: lovesdogs

Re#9 I have heard the same from Ohio and elsewhere. There were 4.1 million less GOP voters than in ‘O4. Unbelievable...


16 posted on 11/20/2008 4:13:44 PM PST by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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To: lovesdogs

The schedule of events was lacking, but I don’t think that is what cost McCain a 3% loss in FL. It was a failure in message, lack of advertising from the GOP party and the McCain campaign and disorganization in the party ground game compared to the last two cycles.

It is a shame because the numbers show how winable this election was. McCain lost due to some Repubs not turning out and other voting for the other party. What a complete failure. All he had to do was get the base out this year and he won.


17 posted on 11/20/2008 4:14:42 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: eureka!; Chet 99
......what propelled him to victory were nonvoting Republicans

VOILA. HE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET OF THE FIASCO OF 08.

18 posted on 11/20/2008 4:21:05 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Looking forward to life under our new emperor, Skippy-o Africanus.)
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To: eureka!; Chet 99
......what propelled him to victory were nonvoting Republicans

VOILA. HE DIRTY LITTLE SECRET OF THE FIASCO OF 08.

19 posted on 11/20/2008 4:21:12 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Looking forward to life under our new emperor, Skippy-o Africanus.)
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To: Jim from C-Town

Exactly. Election DAY.

Before 2010 this early voting crap needs to be done away with. How would that happen? The US Constitution says it’s a “day”, but elections are administered by each state.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 4:22:09 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: Chet 99

Hollywood Charlie helped with early voting.A lot of times he sounded like he worked for the DNC.


21 posted on 11/20/2008 4:24:10 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: Chet 99

I live in Florida and I thought early voting was a great idea. However, when I did my GOTV calls, elderly people simply refused to vote early. They told me they’d get to the polls “if they could” on Election Day.

Our problem was that 67% of Dems were contacted by the Obama campaign - and only 36% of GOPers were contacted by the McCain campaign. We didn’t have enough people getting out the vote, and we didn’t have enough voters going to the polls.

Elderly people are very reluctant to vote early. It’s silly, because it’s actually much easier, and having been a poll-watcher at early voting, I’d say there’s a lot more scrutiny and it’s probably more honest. But the problem is that the GOP simply didn’t get out the vote.


22 posted on 11/20/2008 4:24:52 PM PST by livius
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To: Chet 99

Please advise how early voting is allowed when the Constitution clearly states voting must occur on the same day. Did the courts change the Constitution?


23 posted on 11/20/2008 4:25:37 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: Chet 99

Part of that is due to the GOP’s reliance on the 72-hour push. Cue Maxwell Smart: “missed it by that much” (2 weeks).


24 posted on 11/20/2008 4:27:14 PM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Republican Governors tended to be big supporters of early voting, especially Governor Crist of Florida. The political science research had shown that early voting favored Republicans in previous elections. This year that all changed and bit the Party in the hindquarters.
No one knew that so many Republicans would simply stay home, no matter when voting was allowed.


25 posted on 11/20/2008 4:28:12 PM PST by jamese777
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To: lovesdogs
Once the new leadership is installed, I plan to write a snail mail letter letting the RNC national chair as well as the Florida chair know exactly what I saw on the ground. Say what you will about W, he and his people did know how to run a campaign.

I sincerely hope that your letter will be going to Michael Steele, IMHO he is the only one that can take over, and renew the Republican Party.

26 posted on 11/20/2008 4:33:47 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: lovesdogs
Winnable it was. No Palin appearance here in South Florida
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Palin visited Ft. Myers. I am in Naples but was unable to get a ticket to see her.

New to Florida and was horrified it went blue, grrr.

27 posted on 11/20/2008 4:36:05 PM PST by RepublicanChick
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To: lovesdogs
Winnable it was. No Palin appearance here in South Florida
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Palin visited Ft. Myers. I am in Naples but was unable to get a ticket to see her.

New to Florida and was horrified it went blue, grrr.

28 posted on 11/20/2008 4:36:08 PM PST by RepublicanChick
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To: Chet 99
the Democrat sealed his victory in the state by winning more early and absentee votes...

along with dead people, inmates, multiple-vote-voters, illegal aliens, etc.

29 posted on 11/20/2008 4:39:18 PM PST by DocH (Hussein Obama: Leader of an America-Hating Socialist /Black Nationalist Sleeper Cell)
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To: DocH
Obama was smart. I heard him in many of his rallies that they could go "right accross the street and early vote". He had a great set-up. We can do the same including internet , text messaging and getting out the vote if we had someone at the head of the party who actually wants to win.

Has anyone tried the spell check lately ....YIKES !!!!!!

30 posted on 11/20/2008 4:50:03 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: elpadre
Please advise how early voting is allowed when the Constitution clearly states voting must occur on the same day.

Article Two, Section 1, Clause 4:
The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
The 'Day' which shall be the same throughout the United States is the day on which the Electoral College votes, not when votes for the members of the Electoral College are cast. As for the day we select the Electoral College, 'Congress may determine the Time of choosing'.
31 posted on 11/20/2008 5:00:31 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Mike Fieschko
thanks, I failed to reference the electoral college. From what you say then, Congress must have passed legislation allowing early voting?
32 posted on 11/20/2008 5:17:58 PM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: elpadre
From what you say then, Congress must have passed legislation allowing early voting?

That's what I assume, but I don't know when or in what law.
33 posted on 11/20/2008 5:33:44 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: Chet 99

How many of those votes were made by legitimate, living and legal voters?


34 posted on 11/20/2008 6:24:53 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: eureka!
In Ohio, Obama got 40,000 less votes than Kerry did in 2004

Kerry 2004 Ohio vote: 2,739,952
Obama 2008 Ohio vote: 2,784,344

Hooray for new math,
New-hoo-hoo-math,
It won't do you a bit of good to review math.
It's so simple,
So very simple,
That only a child can do it!
-- Tom Lehrer

35 posted on 11/26/2008 5:53:18 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: ilgipper

The ticket brought out the social-right people, but scared away the middle-of-the-road types. You can’t win that way.


36 posted on 11/26/2008 5:55:13 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

What is really needed is a week or two period of voting, so that there’s time to do everything right and not have all sorts of last-minute snafus that introduce opportunities for error or fraud.


37 posted on 11/26/2008 5:56:09 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: elpadre
Again, Congress only decides when the electors vote. They don't get to make rules for the states' popular vote (except via the usual scheme of offering federal funds with strings attached).
38 posted on 11/26/2008 5:57:38 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

Idea is good. Constitution says “day”, though. If we want the Constitution honored in regard to Hussein’s eligibility for President, we have to honor all of it.


39 posted on 11/26/2008 6:51:01 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (We have elected a man ... who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen. - Dollard post)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The Constitution only addresses the actual vote for president. Hint: The people who cast those votes could fit in a high school gym.


40 posted on 11/26/2008 6:59:17 AM PST by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: steve-b

Re#35 Oops. I was quoting someone, did not check. Still, not the tsunami of new voters. Have a great Thanksgiving...


41 posted on 11/26/2008 8:57:43 AM PST by eureka! (Hey mushy middle: Who is Barrack 0bama? Wait until you learn the answer. It's not pretty.)
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