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"THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON:" Michael Yon
Instapundit ^ | 11/14/08 | Glenn Reynolds

Posted on 11/17/2008 9:56:03 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

"THE WAR IS OVER AND WE WON:" Michael Yon just phoned from Baghdad, and reports that things are much better than he had expected, and he had expected things to be good. "There's nothing going on. I'm with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I'm with haven't fired their weapons on this tour and they've been here eight months. And the place we're at, South Baghdad, used to be one of the worst places in Iraq. And now there's nothing going on. I've been walking my feet off and haven't seen anything. I've been asking Iraqis, 'do you think the violence will kick up again,' but even the Iraqi journalists are sounding optimistic now and they're usually dour." There's a little bit of violence here and there, but nothing that's a threat to the general situation. Plus, not only the Iraqi Army, but even the National Police are well thought of by the populace. Training from U.S. toops has paid off, he says, in building a rapport.

He says the big problem everybody is talking about now is corruption. But hey, we have that here, too. He'll be heading to Afghanistan next week. "Afghanistan is a bad situation, but on Iraq I can't believe things have turned out so well."

He thinks that Obama will be able to pull troops out, and send some to Afghanistan, without creating problems in Iraq. Michael will be reporting from Afghanistan soon, and sending back video, so stay tuned. Things aren't going swimmingly there.

UPDATE: Rand Simberg: "No thanks to the Democrats, including Barack Obama and Joe Biden, who tried to keep it from happening. I see that they still can't bring themselves to utter the word 'win' with respect to the war. They continue to talk about 'ending' it. Well, it looks like George Bush did that for them, and he won it as well."

ANOTHER UPDATE: More thoughts at The Mudville Gazette.

MORE: Yon emails this correction: "Actually, NONE of them have fired their weapons in combat during this tour, and about half of them are combat veterans from Afghanistan and/or Iraq." Sorry, I had misunderstood that bit.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: iraq; oif; victory; wot; yon

1 posted on 11/17/2008 9:56:04 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Let’s get those medals out for Pelosi and Reid for winning the war.


2 posted on 11/17/2008 9:57:07 AM PST by nufsed
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To: Jet Jaguar

The MSM won’t report on it until Febuary at the earliest... most likely April, right around tax day.


3 posted on 11/17/2008 9:58:46 AM PST by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Naw, we lost. Don’t you listen to the cable propaganda news or read it NY Slimes. We lost long, long ago. All our troops left in Iraq are POWs now.


4 posted on 11/17/2008 10:00:01 AM PST by RetiredArmy (America is entering four very long and cold years. First victim: liberty)
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To: Jet Jaguar

So Iraq is now safer than the US.


5 posted on 11/17/2008 10:00:16 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: wrhssaxensemble

They’ll give Obama credit for the victory so will liberal history professors.


6 posted on 11/17/2008 10:00:50 AM PST by SMCC1
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To: Jet Jaguar
Yes we won the war in Iraq.

Thank you President Bush and our brave troops.

7 posted on 11/17/2008 10:01:00 AM PST by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

replicates exactly what I’ve been hearing from Iraq. Infantry units not engaging in combat for 6 months or more.

The Iraq victory ‘myth’ is now CONFIRMED!


8 posted on 11/17/2008 10:02:03 AM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: SMCC1

And it will “help” “ease” the brunt for the Dems pointless full scale invasion of our (nuke-armed) ally Pakistan.


9 posted on 11/17/2008 10:03:19 AM PST by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks for posting this report. Michael Yon is one of the very few reporters I believe.


10 posted on 11/17/2008 10:05:27 AM PST by zot
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To: Jet Jaguar

Dear Lord: May the successes of our galant troops be preserved in spite of the new Administration’s policy of defeat.


11 posted on 11/17/2008 10:09:13 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (SARAH *** JOE *** 2012!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well done!


12 posted on 11/17/2008 10:13:44 AM PST by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else" Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: Jet Jaguar

How convenient ... they announce that the war has been won AFTER the election is done. And, the President responsible for staying the course and selecting the generals to do the work is being kicked out on his rear and threatened with war crimes trials. Go fig.


13 posted on 11/17/2008 10:13:59 AM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: TexasGreg

It is being reported today that the Iraqis have agreed to an extension of the US presence for the next three years.

I wonder why they agreed to this so quickly after the election?


14 posted on 11/17/2008 10:21:00 AM PST by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Move the division to Chicago. There is plenty of action for troops there.


15 posted on 11/17/2008 10:22:07 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Jet Jaguar

God Bless our troops! (And Michael Yon, the Ernie Pyle of Iraq and Afghanistan.)


16 posted on 11/17/2008 10:35:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: wrhssaxensemble

I think the mainstream media will wait until January 21, 2009 “WAR OVER” It will cement the Bush is war president, Obama peace president meme.

THANK YOU PRESIDENT BUSH FOR SEEING THIS THROUGH AND WINNING THE WAR.


17 posted on 11/17/2008 10:38:56 AM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: LRoggy

“It is being reported today that the Iraqis have agreed to an extension of the US presence for the next three years. I wonder why they agreed to this so quickly after the election?”

It was pretty much ready to sign in July actually.

When Obama went to visit Iraq, he violated the Logan Act and encouraged the Iraqis to not negotiate with the US.
I think the holdup was due to trying to help get Obama elected.


18 posted on 11/17/2008 10:41:59 AM PST by WOSG (STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALISM - Change we need: Replace the Democrat Congress)
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To: Jet Jaguar
And when we pull out - well, nature abhors a vacuum and the enemy will be sucked right back in, a new "Saddam" will arise, and we'll be right back where we started.

I still say that Bush should issue an order today to bring them home - have an all-out bug-out. Declare on National TV that the war is over, and we won thanks to General Petreus, and bring the boys home...they deserve the rest.

Let obama deal with the aftermath.
19 posted on 11/17/2008 10:42:40 AM PST by FrankR (Where's Waldo ([W]here [A]re [L]egal [D]ocuments [O]bama? (i.e. birth certificate))
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To: Jet Jaguar

bump


20 posted on 11/17/2008 10:43:36 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: WOSG

I don’t think so though because it would in effect cement Bush as a good president. Think about the presidents during wartime: Madison, Lincoln, Roosevelt, TR, Wilson, FDR, Truman... all (rightfully or wrongfully) considered good or great presidents by historians. Sure you have a few less well known war presidents like Polk or LBJ but by and large war presidents (like presidents who have been assassinated) have gone down as among the best presidents. I highly doubt the media will want to give Bush that sort of credence.

I think instead they will wait until well into Obama’s term so it will look like he is the one doing it; he is the one “changing” things.


21 posted on 11/17/2008 11:01:10 AM PST by wrhssaxensemble (Piyush "Bobby" Jindal in 2012 after Obama makes an even bigger mess of everything)
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To: Jet Jaguar
My Daughter's boyfriend, a Marine, just came home from Iraq after spending over one year there.

He and most of his troops never fired their weapons and many of them believe that the few who did report action actually fired their weapons to receive the medal given for combat.

I am not trying to disparage our troops in any way but it was so peaceful there that few believed any real fire fights actually occurred.

We have nearly achieved total victory.

22 posted on 11/17/2008 11:21:30 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Sure is safer than much of Obamaland (Chicago) and many of its suburbs.


23 posted on 11/17/2008 11:46:27 AM PST by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, he believes government is the solution, rather than the problem)
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To: attiladhun2

Is there still time to get this to the NY Slimes for tomorrow’s front page?


24 posted on 11/17/2008 11:48:48 AM PST by jackofhearts
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To: Jet Jaguar
BUMP FOR MICHAEL YON!!!!
25 posted on 11/17/2008 11:52:54 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: jackofhearts

Is there still time to get this to the NY Slimes for tomorrow’s front page?

ROTFLOL!


26 posted on 11/17/2008 12:05:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

We may have finally won the war, but how many years and lives and dollars will winning the peace cost us? Like old Paul Harvey has repeatedly pointed out, you can lead a horse to water, but he may not drink; we can donate order and security and modern, representative democracy to Sandland, but it will not last. They’re not ready, and they’re not worthy.


27 posted on 11/17/2008 12:06:59 PM PST by flowerplough (Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. -O, Jan '08)
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To: nufsed
Let’s get those medals out for Pelosi and Reid for winning the war.

I'm thinking waterboarding would be more appropriate for those two.

28 posted on 11/17/2008 3:28:28 PM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: Travis McGee; All

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CLARITY =

They are still soldiers

http://www.ArmchairGeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66978

.


29 posted on 11/17/2008 4:55:04 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com11)
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To: Jet Jaguar

BTTT!


30 posted on 11/17/2008 7:32:46 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Thanks.


31 posted on 11/17/2008 7:41:19 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

I can not find this at the web site....where is it?


32 posted on 11/17/2008 7:50:41 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

I cannot find it at the link now.

But while searching, I came across this interview of Yon posted today.

http://bosse2008.blogspot.com/2008/11/michael-yon-live-from-kuwait.html


33 posted on 11/17/2008 7:59:37 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: shield

http://theneinblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/michael-yon-we-have-won-war-in-iraq.html

Same article at a different site.


34 posted on 11/17/2008 8:28:39 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Thanks.


35 posted on 11/17/2008 8:48:16 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: shield

You bet.


36 posted on 11/17/2008 8:50:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: shield

My bad. That was from July.

Back to searching.


37 posted on 11/17/2008 8:51:39 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: shield

http://www.zombietime.com/vi_day/


38 posted on 11/17/2008 9:16:44 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessean4Bush; SandRat; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
"There's nothing going on. I'm with the 10th Mountain Division, and about half of the guys I'm with haven't fired their weapons on this tour and they've been here eight months."
Thanks neverdem.
39 posted on 11/20/2008 3:38:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile finally updated Saturday, October 11, 2008 !!!)
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