Edwards, Rove agree when topic turns to Palin

ap ^ | Friday, November 14, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. | JASON DEAREN

[winoneforthegipper]

"But if she wants to run for president she's gonna have to get somebody to move to Anchorage, Alaska and help her take her game to another level," he said smiling. "Let's be clear about this ... it's really cold there most of the year."

[winoneforthegipper]

Interesting comments by Mr. Rove. Is he saying not me?

[Puppage]

"Let's be clear about this ... it's really cold there most of the year."

Wow.....I never knew.

[DonaldC]

I think it is the rest of the party that needs to improve their “game”.

[chicagolady]

Mr. Rove needs to find another party and another job. He called the presidential race at 11:00 oclock in the afternoon for Obama. Give me a break, He was the mastermnd of the pro-illegal alien strategy, he is no friend of Republics. He needs to give it up and get lost.

He is the PAST failure, we are moving FORWARD.

He is smug and arrogant.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

I had to follow the link to find out who ‘Edwards’ is. I thought he had departed from the political scene...

[newfreep]

Edwards said Palin's inexperience was too much for John McCain's campaign to overcome.

"The problem was, over time, particularly in the vice presidential debate ... it was fairly obvious she wasn't ready to be president, and that made people nervous," he said.

Sounds like the liberals (Rove and Edwards) fear Sarah and both are throwing bombs at her to continue the attempt to derail her future national aspirations. Very telling of the liberal RINOs.

[Non-Sequitur]

Assuming Rove offered, then if Palin was smart she’d say “No thanks.” Roves strategy has worn thin. If Palin’s going to win she’s going to have to look at the successful Reagan campaigns for clues on how to win Democrats and independents over to a conservative agenda.

[CanadianMusherinMI]

i am with you there. rove needs to shut up and go away. he is the past and needs to be buried with the rest of the past. onward and forward...buh bye rove!

[dirtboy]

Rove was the real leader in GOP efforts to pander to the La Raza crowd. And it failed miserably - it took illegal immigration completely off the table in 2008 because both McCain and Obama were for amnesty, just as McCain voting for the bailout took Obama’s socialism off the table.

[jessduntno]

Edwards? Who cares what that *ss hat spews?

[JoeDetweiler]

You know, given that Sarah lives in the capitol, which is JUNEAU, I don’t think Rove has thought this out real well....

[1rudeboy]

Actually, he called the race for Obama more than a week before the election, and he was correct. (Actually, his Electoral College prediction was too conservative).

[AU72]

2000 and 2004 Rove brought Bush 2 terms.

2004 he lost Congress. Before 2008 he ran the Administration into ground and setup the debacle of last week.

[Paradox]

I agree with the idea that Sarah needs to "raise her game". Not an insult to her, because it is monumentally clear that she has tremendous potential.

I'd like her to retain the qualities that she already has, but then ADD some, like a good knowledge of economics and foreign policy, and to add another "voice" to her repertoire, a more intellectual one, less folksy.

[FrankR]

Rove is yesterday's news. If he was as great as they claim (or as he thinks he is) Bush would have won both elections by a much bigger margin, and his popularity ratings would have remained a lot higher.

His smuggness in implying that Palin would natually want him but he's not moving to Alaska is astounding.

When Bush goes out the door, Rove should go with him.

[southernerwithanattitude]

The illegal immigrant issue could have been HUGE for us in this election! If we had a closed border candidate we would have won in a landslide.

Palin/Jindal 2012

[weegee]

they agreed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin needs to hone her knowledge of foreign policy and geography if she runs for president in 2012.

Rove said he didn't care if, as a vice presidential candidate, Palin knew where South Ossetia or Abkhazia are, or if she could recite the minutiae of health care policy.

The media won't let go of the "she doesn't know that Africa is a continent" hoax.

[brushcop]

Sometimes I’m amazed at the stupidity of people like Rove, pandering to the La Raza crowd for example. You would think that they would look deeper into these Socialist/Communist based organizations. I’ve been dealing with those people since the 60s, they haven’t changed, leopard=spots come to mind here.

The friggin’ minorities (blacks/Hispanics) BELONG to the slave party and it’s NOT GOING TO CHANGE, forget it! This election proved that beyond comment.

Rove, by pandering to illegal immigrants, anti-American racist organizations (La Raza, etc.) has done much damage, I don’t know if we can regain ground it’s so serious. And yet they STILL talk about “reaching out”, enough of these people.

[NeoConfederate]

If America is so fired up about an Obama presidency, why is anyone even talking about Palin?

Has anyone else noticed that little things that could be seen as negative toward Obama are slowly being released from the mainstream media? What could this mean?

[70th Division]

Rove may be bright but he is a RINO! PERIOD! We need to find someone with his intellect that is a true conservative.

[durasell]

Rove is not a policy guy or an ideology guy. He’s the guy who can get you elected. That’s his job and he’s fairly good at it.

[1rudeboy]

The media won't let go of the "she doesn't know that Africa is a continent" hoax.

In a sense, it looks like we can't, either.

[grellis]

I wish Rove would stfu. I've been wishing that for the past two years, ever since he put bull's eyes on Walberg and Knollenberg.

He's a jackass. He's part of the problem.

[winoneforthegipper]

Agreed. Palin is my star as well but she just needs a bit more guided exposure to the game, not necessarily a teacher.

Interesting that she is the one getting most of the post election coverage. Truly we as a party must treat her as the asset she is.

[70th Division]

He is a guy who is electing the wrong people. And Yes he is a policy guy.

[OldNavyVet]

Sarah Palin is political dynamite — she’s open, honest, likable, intelligent, pretty and ... nobody’s fool.

Rove has done a reaonable job; but it’s time for him to move on.

[lady lawyer]

“I agree with the idea that Sarah needs to “raise her game”. Not an insult to her, because it is monumentally clear that she has tremendous potential.
I’d like her to retain the qualities that she already has, but then ADD some, like a good knowledge of economics and foreign policy, and to add another “voice” to her repertoire, a more intellectual one, less folksy.”

You have capsulized my opinion perfectly. However, merely suggesting that Sarah can improve is enough to make some people on FR dismiss you entirely. Look at the fury and ad hominem attacks with which they are responding to Rove.

She obviously is a smart woman with amazing political gifts. I just hope she hasn’t been permanently branded as a lightweight in the minds of most — a la Dan Quayle. If that has happened, she may never be able to overcome it.

[winoneforthegipper]

“Rove is not a policy guy or an ideology guy. He’s the guy who can get you elected. That’s his job and he’s fairly good at it.”

Agreed!

[afortiori]

You are correct, sir!

I don't think a hero worship at this stage is good for anyone, especially Palin.

She has to earn this.

[durasell]

What piece of legislation has he written? And, he doesn’t ‘elect” anyone. He’s a hired gun.

[dfwgator]

Rove is so 2000.

[allmendream]

What was obvious to any informed viewer of the VP debates was the Senator “brain damage” Biden was a travesty of serious sounding pronouncements that were 180 degrees out of phase with reality.

To recap....

Hezbollah was never out of Lebanon, and is not now and never will be “legitimate”.

Article I of the Constitution is the LESISLATIVE not the executive branch, and the VP role is discussed in BOTH, making Biden’s contention that the VP role was an executive role exclusively because it was only in the executive article (which he misidentified as Article I) was clearly and absolutely wrong.

Obama DID promise to meet with dictators, including Achmanonjihand, without preconditions. And the fact that Achmanonjihad doesn't actually have any power and is ruled by the mullahs (an actual correct point Biden made) makes the PR victory for Iran in Presidential level meetings even more useless for us and better for Iran.

Many votes of both Obma and McCain were misrepresented by Biden.

And the cherry on top was him trying to establish his “down home” bonifieds by claiming to frequent “Katie's” a restaurant that has been closed for ten years.

Compared to that I only had two criticisms of Palin’s performance. She passed on several blatant opportunities to put ANY daylight between the McCain/Palin candidacy and the Bush/Cheney administration. And every politician, when they don't know or don't want to answer the question asked, just rambles off talking points on any tangentially related subject, but I have never heard a politician ADMIT that she (or he) was going to do it.

[Virginia Ridgerunner]

Rove and Palin just wouldn’t mix anyway I suspect.

[DiogenesLaertius]

Only african americans are monolithic in their support. Asians and Hispanics are not. Do not group us all together.

Selling an easy amnesty with no border enforcement was a big mistake, but lets not mince words. Republicans need to get the hispanic vote on their side. Part of the way to do this is to control the immigration from hispanic countries so that it is upscale and make sure they become part of the middle class.

The key though is to heavily recruit hispanic candidates for office. Any immigration bill passed by republicans that is tough needs to have a legitimate hispanic political leader as its spokesperson who can honestly say that the bill is a plan to help protect our borders without undermining the legal immigration process that has been working in America for many years.

At any rate, if you want to be a part of the minority party, go ahead and go nativist and group all hispanics together. See how far that gets the GOP or conservative political values.

[redgirlinabluestate]

Palin Talks Immigration

[CMAC51]

You know, given that Sarah lives in the capitol, which is JUNEAU, I don’t think Rove has thought this out real well

Rove has thought it out more accurately than you. Sarah's house is in the suburbs of Anchorage. She spends most of her time in the office in Anchorage. She commutes to Juneau only when necessary to conduct state business. The Governor's mansion is in Juneau, but it is under renovation and Sarah does not live there. If anyone is going to spend time with Sarah, either at home or in the office, it will be in Anchorage.

One should get their facts straight before criticizing someone else who actually does.

[winoneforthegipper]

“Rove and Palin just wouldn’t mix anyway I suspect.”

I think Gov. Palin needs exposure to the “wilds” of Washington politics. Who would be more “insider” then Rove?

However, it would be interesting to view these two strong personalities intertwining...lol!

[awelliott]

I agree with the idea that Sarah needs to "raise her game". Not an insult to her, because it is monumentally clear that she has tremendous potential.

I'd like her to retain the qualities that she already has, but then ADD some, like a good knowledge of economics and foreign policy, and to add another "voice" to her repertoire, a more intellectual one, less folksy.

I agree. While she was the only positive reason that I pulled the lever for McCain, there are some things that really concern me. I don't like her occasional populist slants, such as saying that the housing market crash was due to Wall Street greed. I also don't like her comments (as recently as yesterday) that we need to quit being partisan. We see where that has gotten us over the last eight years. She's also all over the board on environmental issues; she's great on energy exploration, but then she courts the hard left on the man-made global warming hoax. The other thing that concerns me is whether she's been forever tainted by the unfair coverage she has received, ala Dan Quayle. Quayle was rushed out too soon and was unfairly savaged in 1988. However, he destroyed Gore in their 1992 debate and he was very polished and articulate on the campaign trail in 2000. However, the damage was done and he was never able to escape the perception as being the guy who couldn't spell potato.

[Neverforget01]

I'd like her to retain the qualities that she already has, but then ADD some, like a good knowledge of economics and foreign policy, and to add another "voice" to her repertoire, a more intellectual one, less folksy.

Just what we need, another beltway "intellectual" sigh

[SlapHappyPappy]

I think he’s right. She needs a lot of grooming to make it through a full Presidential cycle. We may not like that, but it’s a fact.

[ETL]

Agreed, she could use some more schooling in foreign affairs. Nothing wrong with that. It's a complex world out there, and 4 more years brushing up will make her an extremely strong presidential candidate in 2012. But John Edwards is hardly someone who should give advice in this area. Still she was 1000 times more qualified than either Biden or the Marxist Messiah.

From John Edwards' official website:
"Danny Glover Campaigns for John Edwards"
Video at site!
http://www.johnedwards.com/media/video/glover/
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764
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From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060727/51913498.html
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From CBS-News:
July 29, 2006
"Chavez pledged that his country would 'stay by Iran at any time and under any condition,' state television reported. Ahmadinejad said he saw in Chavez a kindred spirit." "'We do not have any limitation in cooperation,' Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying. 'Iran and Venezuela are next to each other and supporters of each other. Chavez is a source of a progressive and revolutionary current in South America and his stance in restricting imperialism is tangible.'":
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/29/world/main1847331.shtml

[SlapHappyPappy]

You may not have liked his call, but the reality is that the election had been over for some time. And it wasn’t his fault.

[dfwgator]

Palin made a lot of “rookie mistakes,” but I too, fear she’s been “Quayled.” However, unlike Quayle, she will have the opportunity to change her perception. Of course, should Obama’s Presidency tank, that too, will open up opportunities for her. But what I see as her biggest problem is appealing to non-whites.

These are reasons that for now, I am firmly in Bobby Jindal’s corner for 2012.

[teacherbarbie]

I think she's a really good speaker and she's a star. I do think she should look into getting a higher degree. She could be finished by the time her term as governor is up.
Let's face it Obama isn't ready to be president either, but he gets a pass because people think he's so smart and are impressed by his education.

[DiogenesLaertius]

I think to the drive-by’s she was overconfident. We had just faced a financial crisis and she’s been held under scrutiny for not having enough experience to be president (since people know mccain is really old). Her winks did not help her look professional. Also she seemed badly versed in many issues (and I say seemed).

For example, when she said she said Biden was, “waving the white flag of surrender,” in Iraq many interpreted it as a naive platitude about Iraq policy. CNN viewers (I know it is CNN) pushed their dials way down at that moment. She had many moments like that where it could be construed as not having her facts straight (blaming Wall Street greed to fault the bailout for example), and for all her attempts to connect, its Biden who had the peak emotional moment with his reference to his family after his wife had died.

Now I like Sarah Palin a lot, but thats the way the cards fell. After Bush, Republicans are not going to get away with looking anti-intellectual anymore by the electorate.

[anniegetyourgun]

Governors are not from the beltway....but they can and should display intellect.

[MCOAvalanche]

What Palin needs is someone like the late Lee Atwater - yes, I know he had his flaws and was the inspiration for negative campaigning - but I tell you, if he was around there would be no Obama Presidency and there would not be the nonsense spread about Palin that there was.

Who ever ran Obama’s campaign strategy read Atwater’s playbook.

Palin needs that sort of bulldog to run her campaign...no Mr. Nice Guy try and get along with everyone nd reach across the aisle, Nope - someone who will proudly wave the Conservative banner and you either flock to it or you don’t but the message does not get compromised to appease the libs.

[teacherbarbie]

I thin the Obama people are floating this lie about HRC as Secretary of State to get the attention away from Palin, back to him.

[TheRightGuy]

You know, given that Sarah lives in the capitol, which is JUNEAU, I don’t think Rove has thought this out real well....

Actually she has offices in BOTH Juneau and Anchorage.