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Too bad that Juan McCain didn't get the memo. Trying to out-Democrat the Democrat always results in a loss. |
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Posted on 11/12/2008 9:42:22 AM PST by AuntB
/PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- A nationwide survey of actual voters reveals that Americans strongly support immigration enforcement, and that less than one-third of Obama voters favor granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The poll conducted by Zogby International on behalf of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) on November 5 and 6 also found that a decisive majority of voters believe that an illegal alien amnesty would "further harm the interests of struggling American workers."
Among the key findings of the poll are:
-- Only 32% of Obama voters considered his support for amnesty as a factor in their decisions to vote for him. 67% said it was either not a factor at all, or they voted for Obama in spite of his stance on amnesty.
-- 60% of voters said reducing illegal immigration and cracking down on employers who hire them is important to them, while only 21% supported "legalizing or creating a pathway to citizenship" for illega; aliens.
-- 57% of voters stated that amnesty would harm American workers and further strain public resources, while only 26% believe amnesty would aid economic recovery and ease public burdens.
(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...
Well there you have it. It’s a mandate. Expect Obama to call Harry Reid and prepare the final legislation for passage.
No need for hearings or debate. Straight to vote.
Well there you have it. It’s a mandate. Expect Obama to call Harry Reid and prepare the final legislation for passage.
No need for hearings or debate. Straight to vote.
IF the GOP keeps moving left on this issue, they can count on losing more elections.
I hope you’re being sarcastic.
“and that less than one-third of Obama voters favor granting amnesty to illegal aliens. “
Too bad we’re going to get Amnesty for Illegals. :(
Well I’m still here and ready to fight this monster.
Too many people ignore reality when it comes to the amnesty issue. The last time we fought it, we defeated it with the help of liberals and democrats and it looks many of them will be on our side again.
Can the pulverized right be rallied this time ????
Check this out, Nana. This is JUST Florida!
“More than 100,000 newly naturalized citizens registered to vote in Florida”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122645231349219391.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
ping
The cRats need to secure their future election by granting citizenship to their new voting block.
Yeah, all 25M to 40M of them.
Exactly. See post 10.
Doesn’t matter anyway. Just like ChiFi (Dianne Feinstein) said she’d recevied almost 90,000 calls against the bailout, but was going to vote for it anyway. With the exception of some real conservatives, our Congress is mostly like the Roman Senate scene in History of the World Part 1.
Exactly what we tried to tell Senator Stupid.
I agree, and we can do it again. This is the one issue that has overlapped party and ideology, despite the fact that NEITHER party leadership has been on the right side of the issue. The economy may well give the new administration a reason to back off amnesty.
We’re gonna get it anyway - there was no one running for prez this time who was on the side of the majority of Americans.
AS AM I--AND I'M FRANKLY FED UP with the ones willing to lie down for a trampling defeat!Folks, if you haven't joined FAIR and NumbersUSA, if you haven't written those nasty racist organizations (LaRaza and the like), now is the time to put away the whining and start the writing campaign--to your reps, to the media, to the incoming prez, to the foul-mouthed demonstrators come Jan. 21.
Regards . . . Penny
I believe GWB was right strategically regarding this issue of immigration and trying place the issue (and the GOP) in a position of strength. However, tactically, he went about it all wrong. Not starting with the premise of border security first and foremost and providing our base with needed assurances.
However, now, our base / party is left out, the Hispanic vote has shifted big time to the left and an even much more liberal immigration bill will be passed by the DEMs (from which the Hispanic vote will give them sole credit).
Not good. President GWB was right strategically and wrong tactically. Our base was right tactically but wrong strategically.
Protect our borders and support our American workers!
No Amnesty ~ Not Now ~ Not Ever!
Don’t blame me-I voted for Nero’s horse!
Considering the Democrat Congress passed the $700 billion bail-out without regard to the public opposition, anything else elected Democrats want, they get
if the dems give amnesty they’ll have a lot more new voters that would support them. So I don’t think they’d be worried about these polls
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Too bad that Juan McCain didn't get the memo. Trying to out-Democrat the Democrat always results in a loss. |
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The right camdidate would have beat B. Hussein on this issue alone.
McCain was NOT the right one.
Didn’t the people of Oregon just pass a law criminalizing the hiring of illegal aliens?
we need to get the Hispanic voting block as the Dems have the black vote.
I think wee need to go after them but not at the expense of leaving borders open.
Bush went about it wrong.
If he had said right we will close all the border, as for those here illegally they go back to their country after registering here and then we will issue a visa to those who have never got into trouble, can speak English, pay back tax’s and then go through the proper requirements.
We do not give any visa’s to trouble makers at all.
The Hispanics I know want to just work , make money and live a good life, we have to let them know there is a way for them to do that but not come here and break laws to do it
I think they would have gone for that, the first thing was though was to get that border closed.
The Dems are after the Hispanic vote and if they get it all then we will lose more elections as the white vote is going down and down unless every conservative couple starts having 7 to 10 babies to bring the numbers back up
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The right camdidate would have beat B. Hussein on this issue alone.
McCain was NOT the right one.”
Amen!
Huh? The poll said Americans do not support amnesty.
Right now the only people I have any faith in saving America is Philip Berg and Leo C. Donofrio.
Hopefully names like Roberts, Alito, Scalia, Thomas, and Kennedy think The Constitution is worth saving.
“Didn’t the people of Oregon just pass a law criminalizing the hiring of illegal aliens?”
Several states had ballot issues on this. All the enforcement ones passed.
I’ll fight alongside you. Just went to the cafeteria for lunch in a hospital in Central Texas and felt like I was in a foreign country. English was the exception.
She says the only reason BHO was in favor of it was to get the Hispanic vote. She assures me BHO would NEVER grant amnesty for the illegals.
Don't tell jorge bush he would never buy it. He thinks mccain won.
Illegal immigration is costing the United States billions of dollars! Obama/Reid/Pelosi won’t touch the issue regardless of the damage caused because that would hurt their voting support.
We need a poll showing how many illegal immigrants voted through ACORN and for the Democrats.
Obama may not even be an American citizen:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
Last time we defeated this, the only thing that stopped it was the senate. The house is now overwhelmingly dem and we’ve lost greatly in the senate. I don’t believe that congress will listen to the majority of voters on this issue.
GWB plan to a large degree did / required what you suggested - As I said, strategically GWB was right, likely for the Nation as well as the GOP itself. Tactically he went about wrong. And the reverse holds true of our base, which in the long run could be much more damaging. What we/the base wanted tactically was correct but once we didn’t get what we wanted tactically we recklessly gave away the strategic battle as well.
Yes, but a lot of Dem Senators voted against amnesty in order to protect American jobs. The Labor unions(who make huge contributions to the RATS) are totally against any amnesty that will take jobs from Americans. Its not all RATS Senators who are as stupid as Juan McCain.
The GOP needs to make their positions very clear on border control and the hiring of illegals. Legal Hispanics do not like illegals coming in and undercutting their wages, any more than any other American. The problem seems to me that many can’t simply stop at the issues, but many times get very disrespectful of all Hispanics. Just read through some of the immigration threads here at FR, and you will see what I mean. It gets offensive and ugly. That is what turns off the legal Hispanic population. Hispanics are naturally conservative, and I have tried to get them involved in conservative politics. But, it doesn’t take long before they run into the negative stereotypical type comments. They don’t stick around for more, and they don’t vote GOP.
Even Diana Feinstein in California ended up voting against the last amnesty bill. Boxer, of course, was too dumb to figure out that a solid La Raza majority in California would have no use for an elderly Jewish woman when there was zero chance that a conservative could be elected to statewide office. She would be tossed out in favor of someone like the boy mayor from LA.
It is going to get really ugly when the La Raza and the Black Panther crowds start to really compete for their share of political pork extracted from the hide of whitey middle class.
I was talking to a repairman of mine who’s best friend is a customs agent.
He says many illegals are going home due to the economy.
Hey, with that and $1.96 gas, life is looking a little better.
Doesn’t matter. He’s going to push for and achieve blanket amnesty anyway. Generations of Democrat voters, you know.
“Hey, with that and $1.96 gas, life is looking a little better.”
We’re still paying 2.75 a gallon here, but even that looks like a bargain. They sure have us trained, don’t they?
I was paying somewhere in the 60 and 70 cent range for gas when I started driving back in 81 or so. Today I paid $1.83 and felt good doing it.
More people were against the bail out than were agains McCain amnesty. And the people lost that battle.
The politicians don’t care what we think.
She says the only reason BHO was in favor of it was to get the Hispanic vote. She assures me BHO would NEVER grant amnesty for the illegals.Barack the blank slate, Barack the Rorschach Candidate strikes again. Obama's supporters, knowing nothing of who he really is, projected all their dreams and desires on him.
I hear them say over and over all the things Obama will do that he never even promised to do. By running as the "All things to all people" candidate, he has set himself up for expectations he cannot possibly fulfill.
The "buyer's remorse" will be epic.
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