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Federal Employees: Pay, COLAs and Your 2009 Paycheck
FedSmith ^ | November 5, 2008 | Ralph Smith

Posted on 11/11/2008 12:51:01 PM PST by Poundstone

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To: merry10

True to form. Here’s a clue — it was more than one sentence. There are things called punctuation marks in it. They mark the end of sentences. And it wasn’t a response to something in the CBD either. It was an paragraph within an informal discussion between friends.


61 posted on 11/11/2008 1:58:34 PM PST by bvw
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To: HiJinx

YES! In fact if you review business spending, the largest expense by far is employee payroll and benefits.

These are areas the unions excel at extracting more than they deserve.


62 posted on 11/11/2008 1:59:52 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascists inside and outside our borders, now ACT LIKE IT!)
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To: Poundstone

Federal, state, and most local workers get cost of living increases, fat pensions, health care, two hundred days off a year, stipends for parking and commuting, and lifelong protection against layoffs. And they are the biggest whiners around.

Private sector workers are losing the few benefits they have or their jobs, have seen their wages actually go down in real purchasing power, see their jobs going overseas or to illegal aliens. And as contractors they do all the work that government workers can’t possibly do.

Which ones voted overwhelmingly for Obama? - The government workers.

And all of this is being paid for by the increasingly distressed private sector workers.

The revolution is coming.


63 posted on 11/11/2008 2:00:17 PM PST by oldbill
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To: SFC Chromey

We did an analysis of expenses vs. revenues. The revenues have flat lined for the past five years. The expenses escalate because of salaries and benefits. Since everything else has been cut (equipment, vehicles, materials,) workforce is the only place left.

To be fair, in our county the largest salary is $150,000. We were finding that some of our lower level personnel actually qualified for state income assistance. In public health nurses, for instance, a begining graduate nurese was making about $20,000 more in the private sector than a PH nurse of 30 years experience. Personnel were leaving for jobs with other counties that had less responsibility and were paying several tens of thousands of dollars more.


64 posted on 11/11/2008 2:07:52 PM PST by marsh2
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To: bvw

Yes Contracting Officers can go to jail for signing a contract that is not sufficiently funded. As far as I know they are the only job series that has the possibility of being financially responsible for their actions.


65 posted on 11/11/2008 2:09:32 PM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (11/4/2008 America has just become retarded.)
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To: Dmitry Vukicevich

Hmmm ... does that apply to Fannie and Freddie?


66 posted on 11/11/2008 2:14:52 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

There is a difference between Contracting Officers and Mortgage Counselors. Contracting Officers sign the documents that obligate the Government financially for required items such as flood protection in NOLA or parts for ships, planes or tanks.


67 posted on 11/11/2008 2:19:23 PM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (11/4/2008 America has just become retarded.)
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To: Dmitry Vukicevich

If you don’t know how it works at the two mortgage outfits say so.


68 posted on 11/11/2008 2:21:02 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
I think you need to learn as you have absolutely no clue. You are making yourself look like an ass. Tell me what person obligates the Government to pay for a mortgage? If you don't know just shut your freaking piehole.
69 posted on 11/11/2008 2:24:38 PM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (11/4/2008 America has just become retarded.)
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To: kingu
At least the ancient Chinese had the foresight to castrate their government bureaucrats so they couldn't propagate. ;)
70 posted on 11/11/2008 2:28:35 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Skooz
I think all or most new hires since 1990 are under FERS.

I believe all federal employees hired after 1984 are under the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS.) Those hired prior to 1984 had the option of staying under the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS), or switching to FERS. Most stayed with CSRS.

(Yes I am a federal employee, and no, I don't make anything close to $149,000 per year.)

71 posted on 11/11/2008 2:29:23 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: napscoordinator

“You complain about that salary while serviceman are over in Iraq making 20,000”

The only people making $20k are 18 year olds with little to no experience. Are you suggesting Socialism whereby they get $100k for just showing up?


72 posted on 11/11/2008 2:34:23 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

If the top federal earner is in the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS), he/she does not pay FICA element for Social Security.

Of course, he/she does not get Social Security unless he/she has worked elsewhere & then his/her benefits are calculated using a formula that reduces the benefit up to about 50%.

For 2009, CSRS employees will receive a 5.8% increase in their retirement pay. Federal Employee Retirement System (FERS) retired employees will get a 4.8% increase - they payed into Social Security, so they get that, too. I believe the Social Security increase for 2009 is 6.9%.


73 posted on 11/11/2008 2:35:04 PM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

If the top federal earner is in the Civil Service Retirement System (CSRS), he/she does not pay FICA element for Social Security.

Of course, he/she does not get Social Security unless he/she has worked elsewhere & then his/her benefits are calculated using a formula that reduces the benefit up to about 50%.

For 2009, CSRS employees will receive a 5.8% increase in their retirement pay. Federal Employee Retirement System (FERS) retired employees will get a 4.8% increase - they payed into Social Security, so they get that, too. I believe the Social Security increase for 2009 is 6.9%.


74 posted on 11/11/2008 2:35:09 PM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: bmwcyle
I’m a government contractor.

I think the term is "beltway bandit".

The government certainly has more than its share of lazy, incompetent, and arrogant workers, but they don't even come close to some of the contractors I've had to deal with.

75 posted on 11/11/2008 2:40:42 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: GreenHornet
(Yes I am a federal employee, and no, I don't make anything close to $149,000 per year.)

Ditto. And ditto.

76 posted on 11/11/2008 2:47:56 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
Rhetorical bomb-thrower.

Yeah, a troll.

77 posted on 11/11/2008 2:48:53 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Dmitry Vukicevich

Perhaps, fellow freaking pie-hole Dmitry, there are CO’s at Fannie and Freddie too, or the equivalent. The folks who sign contracts for services and goods? Do you think?


78 posted on 11/11/2008 2:53:08 PM PST by bvw
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To: anymouse

The more senior field mandarins were not castrated and able to marry. But they had to move 300 or so miles away from the new wife’s district — that was in order to prevent nepotism, favors to the family and the creation of political dynasties.


79 posted on 11/11/2008 2:56:54 PM PST by bvw
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To: bvw

Freddie and Fannie employees are not GS level employees. In order to understand this you have to understand the Federal Hire system. Once again the only GS level, or YC, level employees that can go to jail or be held financially obligated for their decisions are Contracting Officers.


80 posted on 11/11/2008 3:00:15 PM PST by Dmitry Vukicevich (11/4/2008 America has just become retarded.)
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