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Oregon Senate: Election Called For Merkley (85% Reporting)
Weekly Standard ^ | 11/6/08 | Weekly Standard

Posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:51 AM PST by careyb

A sizable chunk of the vote in the Oregon Senate race between Republican incumbent Gordon Smith and Democratic challenger Jeff Merkley has not yet been counted, but The Oregonian is calling the race for Merkley. Though Merkley only holds a lead of 2,000 votes, most of the uncounted votes are from heavily-Democratic counties. If this projection holds up, that would give the Democrats 57 seats to the Republicans' 40.

In the three other races still up in the air, GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans' ability to filibuster.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 110th; gordonsmith; merkley; or2008
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Didn't see this one posted. Sorry if it's a dupe.
1 posted on 11/06/2008 5:42:51 AM PST by careyb
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To: careyb
most of the uncounted votes are from heavily-Democratic counties

Funny how they always seem to save those for last.

2 posted on 11/06/2008 5:43:39 AM PST by careyb
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To: careyb

I wonder if they found votes in a box in the basement.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 5:45:59 AM PST by Perdogg (1459 Days until the 2012 Presidential Election - Dissent is Patriotic)
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To: careyb

I know we need every seat we can get, but Gordon Smith is a nasty piece of work, not to mention a complete and total idiot. I hope he’s never seen or heard from again.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 5:48:50 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (the evil has landed)
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To: careyb

Probably waiting until the other counties report, decide how many they need to overcome a lead, plus 10,000 or so more, and pull out the ACORN ballots to seal the “victory.”

The cities should have to report FIRST.


5 posted on 11/06/2008 5:49:11 AM PST by ScottinVA
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To: careyb

>If this projection holds up, that would give the Democrats 57 seats to the Republicans’ 40.

Huh? Last check there were 100 Senate seats. 43 Republican maybe?


6 posted on 11/06/2008 5:50:27 AM PST by soycd
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To: Perdogg
I wonder if they found votes in a box in the basement.

Or in a car trunk.

7 posted on 11/06/2008 5:51:18 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: careyb
most of the uncounted votes are from heavily-Democratic counties

you mean "from the basements and closets of heavily-Democratic counties".

8 posted on 11/06/2008 5:52:45 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: soycd

and it may get even worse with a runoff in Minnesota for a Senate seat and also in Ga.
Ugh!
They may have 59 before it is all over.
Ugh!
Wake me in 2012!


9 posted on 11/06/2008 5:54:13 AM PST by a real Sheila (John McCain may not be able to defeat Obama on his own but GOD CAN!)
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To: soycd

and it may get even worse with a runoff in Minnesota for a Senate seat and also in Ga.
Ugh!
They may have 59 before it is all over.
Ugh!
Wake me in 2012!


10 posted on 11/06/2008 5:54:48 AM PST by a real Sheila (John McCain may not be able to defeat Obama on his own but GOD CAN!)
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To: soycd

Three races are still in limbo - Coleman (MN), Chambliss (GA), and Stevens (AK). The rest of the article explains them a little bit.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 5:55:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: careyb

“In the three other races still up in the air, GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans’ ability to filibuster.”

As I understand it, the dems will change the Senate rules to make the filibuster limit 50% instead of 60%.


12 posted on 11/06/2008 5:59:32 AM PST by dbacks (God help the USA.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I suppose it would have been a surprise if Smith had won. OR seems to be gone now. Pretty sad. They, like the other 56 states, will have to learn the hard way.

So Repubs will have no more than 43 Senate seats. Just like 1992. Deja vu. Though Coleman could still easily lose, and it sounds like a lot of absentees have yet to be counted in AK. If Chambliss goes to a runoff we can hope he wins big this time. It will be the first sign of dissent against the 0bama admin.


13 posted on 11/06/2008 6:00:07 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: savedbygrace

Who won the Washington state Gov race?


14 posted on 11/06/2008 6:01:27 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: careyb
Another RINO out. This is how the Liberals reward the RINOs, they throw them in the trash when they're done with them.
15 posted on 11/06/2008 6:02:22 AM PST by tobyhill (No Honeymoon For Obama. Free Obama Bashing 24/7)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I agree with you completely. Time he went back to packing peas in Pendleton. I have always believed that any Republican is better than the best Democrat. In Smith’s case I found an exception and there was no I could vote for him, so I vote “none of the above”.


16 posted on 11/06/2008 6:04:11 AM PST by Busywhiskers ("Shave off the whiskers of unnecessary thought." Occams Razor)
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To: careyb

I saw their Web site and they are correct. Most of the Red counties have been counted, but the remaining uncounted votes are in that big county where Portland is and it has been going two thirds for the Dem. Looked at a Blue/Red map of the U.S. by county today and shows a mostly Red U.S. with the blue counties in the large Urban cities. Looks like the cultural divide is between Rural and Urban. guess the Lib.s control the Urban areas and the Conservatives the Rural.


17 posted on 11/06/2008 6:04:59 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: dbacks
As I understand it, the dems will change the Senate rules to make the filibuster limit 50% instead of 60%.

Would they have to have 60% to change it to 50%??

18 posted on 11/06/2008 6:06:56 AM PST by OBXWanderer (Heh, yo, Tony R.....you feelin betta dis mornin???????????????)
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To: a real Sheila

2010. And it starts now.


19 posted on 11/06/2008 6:09:10 AM PST by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: OBXWanderer

They need 67 votes to change the filibuster rules.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 6:12:07 AM PST by careyb
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To: careyb

Local ground rules.... make every vote count, then count again


21 posted on 11/06/2008 6:15:58 AM PST by pointsal
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To: soycd

Two independents voting with the Dems, Leiberman(CT) and Sanders(ME).


22 posted on 11/06/2008 6:24:46 AM PST by mono
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To: mono

Oops. Sanders is indy from Vermont not Maine.


23 posted on 11/06/2008 6:26:42 AM PST by mono
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To: mono

It will be interesting to see if they throw Leiberman under the bus.


24 posted on 11/06/2008 6:27:00 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: careyb

In order to sustain a filibuster - which they should do on every piece of marxist legislation Obama proposes, the 40+ Rep. senators will need to grow some gonads!! They rarely show any fortitude in this regard. Hopefully Mitch can keep them in line and not give in to the socialists on the other side. If not, we are doomed, they are our last wall of defense against the Europeanization of America!


25 posted on 11/06/2008 6:27:50 AM PST by Froggie
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To: Beagle8U

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008355851_apwagovernor6thldwritethru.html


26 posted on 11/06/2008 6:29:59 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Perdogg

They just resurrected a few dead people or had their pets vote


27 posted on 11/06/2008 6:31:03 AM PST by Merlinator (Stop the Obamination!)
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To: Froggie

Amongst those “Republicans”, you still have Snow and Collins and probably one or two I have forgotten. Coleman who is in a recount gets a little wobbly kneed at times also. Smith from OR just got taken out.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 6:31:41 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Froggie

They’ve done a good job of it since 2006. Really, name one piece of liberal legislation to make it out of Congress.
- No conditions on Iraq War funds. They couldn’t even force the president to suggest a timetable.
- No S-Chip which they love.
- No Restrictions on free trade.
- No Amnesty for illegals.

And there are probably a few more things which I forget because well you can’t remember something that never existed.


29 posted on 11/06/2008 6:36:47 AM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: soycd
Don't be ignorant! Obama has identified all 57 states.
30 posted on 11/06/2008 6:39:38 AM PST by Issaquahking (This is the kind of person our forefathers wanted to run the country!!! Go Sarah Go!!!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Absentee ballots are still being counted in Georgia, and Chambliss is so close to 50% that he's not conceding the need for a runoff until the final election results are certified by the Georgia Secretary of State next week. Stevens in Alaska appears to have won. I hope the Dems throw Lieberman out and he then caucuses with the R's. I'd much rather have a wobbly-kneed Coleman in the Senate than a flaming imbecile like Franken.
31 posted on 11/06/2008 6:41:45 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Philly Nomad

The people on this thread who do not understand the regrettable blow to losing Gordon Smith’s seat do not understand legislative procedure. Their ignorance of Senate procedure and cloture votes is astounding. They should learn some basic civics before assaulting a decent GOP senator with a 70% ACU rating.


32 posted on 11/06/2008 7:03:41 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: mono

>>Two independents voting with the Dems, Leiberman(CT) and Sanders(ME).<<

Sanders voted against amnesty. He does vote with the Dems a lot though.

And you know on what issue Lieberman votes against the Dems.


33 posted on 11/06/2008 7:06:21 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: soycd; Godzilla; Shooter 2.5; Joe Brower; neverdem; wardaddy; judicial meanz; DaveLoneRanger; ...
What about Jim Jeffords and that POS from Vermont that is a member of the socialist party? They both vote with the RATS.

Also I'd like to know which Democrats that were elected in 2006 ran on a "pro gun" platform and were hand picked for exactly that ideaology by the DNC as most likely to win in a heavily conservative state (in the case of the Senate) or District (from the House). Anybody have any data on that? How likely are these folks to stand up against their leadership because they pretty well know their political blood will flow in the next election?

Also, if Obama moves to enact a federal ban on CCW permits, how likely is it that a 2nd Amendment challenge can be successfully mounted by the progun states and actually be heard by the high court as an emergency injunction? If it's a state that is challenging a federal law, isn't there automatic "standing?"

34 posted on 11/06/2008 7:10:49 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: mwl8787

He was at 48% last year. He was a thorn in our side like Voinovich and the others.


35 posted on 11/06/2008 7:14:48 AM PST by darkangel82
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To: a real Sheila
it may get even worse with a runoff in Minnesota

What are you talking about? What runoff?

36 posted on 11/06/2008 7:23:41 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: careyb

“They need 67 votes to change the filibuster rules.”

Nope. Absolutely wrong.

Senate _rules_ can be changed by a majority vote, IF the issue is raised properly.

This is why “the nuclear option” _was_ an option for Republicans a few years’ back. They chose not to go that way.

The democrats will go that way, full speed ahead.

- John


37 posted on 11/06/2008 7:28:24 AM PST by Fishrrman
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To: careyb
[...most of the uncounted votes are from heavily-Democratic counties.]

Funny how they always seem to save those for last.

That's so they know how manu votes to be manufactured.

38 posted on 11/06/2008 7:29:26 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Beagle8U

Fraudoire did


39 posted on 11/06/2008 7:35:19 AM PST by rahbert
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To: tobyhill
Another RINO out. This is how the Liberals reward the RINOs, they throw them in the trash when they're done with them.

Nobody loves a traitor.

40 posted on 11/06/2008 7:37:16 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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To: Nonstatist

oops!
I mean recount, but each time they do it, amazingly Franken is getting more votes!
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/33900844.html

I’m sure that once he is the winner, they will stop recounting.


41 posted on 11/06/2008 7:45:44 AM PST by a real Sheila (John McCain may not be able to defeat Obama on his own but GOD CAN!)
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To: Philly Nomad; mwl8787; Froggie
They’ve done a good job of it since 2006. Really, name one piece of liberal legislation to make it out of Congress.

And even still... Freepers throw more (R) Senators under the bus than Obama throws casual associates.

If you were a Republican senator, would you trust the conservative base to have your back for a millisecond?

The Schumers and Boxers and Clintons never have to worry about their constituents. Hillary voted for the frikkin WAR and the peacenik-feminists still love her.

42 posted on 11/06/2008 7:47:49 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Sanders voted against amnesty.
What would be the case against amnesty from a socialist perspective?
43 posted on 11/06/2008 7:58:17 AM PST by dbz77
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To: careyb

Another RINO bites the dust, drops his horn, hightails it to lobbyist-land. Good riddance, and if the house cleaning must go on, so be it. A true conservative party is taking shape, and, if I step away from the horror of Tuesday, I like it.


44 posted on 11/06/2008 7:58:56 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: ExSoldier
How likely are these folks to stand up against their leadership because they pretty well know their political blood will flow in the next election?
Almost all of them. John Murtha retained his rating in the NRA, after all.
45 posted on 11/06/2008 8:01:00 AM PST by dbz77
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To: careyb
"...GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans' ability to filibuster."

Except for the preening egos of RINOs like Susan Collins...

46 posted on 11/06/2008 8:08:31 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: careyb
"...GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans' ability to filibuster."

Except for the preening egos of RINOs like Susan Collins...

47 posted on 11/06/2008 8:08:42 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: careyb
"...GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans' ability to filibuster."

Except for the preening egos of RINOs like Susan Collins...

48 posted on 11/06/2008 8:08:43 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: careyb
"...GOP incumbents are poised to hold on to their seats by razor-thin margins, and thus help sustain the Republicans' ability to filibuster."

Except for the preening egos of RINOs like Susan Collins...

49 posted on 11/06/2008 8:08:55 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: careyb

It appears we’ll be able to filibuster. So long as that is the case, I’m not going to shed a tear to see Gordon Smith get tossed out. Another RINO gone and a cleaner house, as far as I’m concerned.


50 posted on 11/06/2008 8:09:08 AM PST by batter (Wolverines!)
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