Posted on 11/05/2008 5:52:50 PM PST by Chet 99
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Gans said the lower end of his estimate would put the rate near that of 2004.
Experts calculate turnout rates in different ways based on whom they consider eligible voters.
Breakdown by party voting shows that Republican turnout rates are down quite a bit, while Democratic turnout rates are up, Gans said.
Republican states, such as Wyoming and South Dakota, saw turnout drop. "I think they were discouraged," Gans said.
North Carolina saw the greatest increase in turnout, because of close presidential, Senate and gubernatorial races, according to Gans' research. Other states where turnout increased were Indiana, Georgia and Alabama.
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GOP doesn’t exist in the numbers they did in 2000/2004. Should we be surprised?
McCain was simply not the conservatives choice.
I heard from someone at work that only 30% of registered Republican voters in Ohio showed up this year. Is this true? Has anyone else heard this statistic??
The RINO legacy.
Time to clean house.
Ya think? I wonder why? Ultimately, some of the polls that were dissected on a daily basis proved right (like Rasmussen), but a good many others were simply propaganda tools used by the media to crush our spirit. The Pew poll was a classic example of this. For weeks in a row, they showed 0bama up 16 points. Then at the last minute, they do a final "never mind" poll with the race at 6 points! Oh, so now they can say they were accurate after lying to us for weeks and making us think it was absolutely hopeless. Did that by itself cost us the election? Probably not, but it could not have helped either, and many certainly have resulted in bringing us down in some down the ballot races...
“GOP doesn’t exist in the numbers they did in 2000/2004. Should we be surprised?”
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No-Because of the disinterersted, tired, bland Mc Cain. Why turn out to vote for a moderate Democrat?
Yes-Because of the genuine political phenomenon that is Sarah Palin. I thought she would drive turn out to record numbers
and zero is??????
McCain was not the party’s choice: He was forced on us by Romney’s actions.
I blame Romney 100% for manipulating the entire thing. First he haphazardly joined the race to split the conservative vote; Then he bows out after depleting a significant portion of the conservative delegates and hands them over to the moderate.
The whole thing was a game. It’s no wonder the Republicans stayed home or left the party.
this makes me ill.
In 2008 Ohio had 500,000 less votes cast than 2004 and a most of them are Republicans who stayed home because they thought the elections was over.
Disenchanted people often decide to let people sink in their own muck.
But you can’t tell whether the decline in Republican votes is a decline in Republicans voting or a shift of independents from Republican to Democrat in ‘08.
Who is “zero”?
the stupid party folks...
the rats don't put up with his junk....
In North Carolina there were an additional 720,000 vote cast in 2008 over those cast in 2004. In Indiana almoost 250,000 more votes in 2008 than 2004.
Yeah, bite their nose to spite their face. After 4 or even 8 years of the Kenyan in office and the whole host of things that could be permanently wrecked, I’d like to personally punch any of these chumps in the nose. Some people are so intent on standing on principle that they might as well be in quicksand.
Come on now. The democrats fought the bloodiest primaries ever in 2008.
Yeah, but those people are NOT native NC’ers. My hubby’s sister moved down to NC (burb of Charlotte) and told us that the entire neighborhood they live in of $1M Mcmansions of course is all transplants - NY, NJ, MA, etc. They are from OH so it’s a bunch of Northerners - that’s why the voting is changing so drastically.
Meanwhile, my relatives who have lived down there for their entire lives (since mother is originally from there)HATE it.
We exist. Too many paid too much attention to the self-fulfilling polls. Too many just could not get excited for another RINO Republican who represented more of the same. We almost had to drag people to the polls kicking and screaming because they bought into the “we’re toast” mentality.
Not enough to make an extra 720,000 new voters, not even close. Obama got a lot of extra black voters this year in North Carolina.
High black and Hispanic turnout as well as college kids ACORN Rock the Vote. Friends working in GOP tent watched the black celebrate the the change of power to them and how they’re going to rule over thhe whites while the GOP teny was good only early on and fell off rapidly to nothing... Put Virginia in the welfare nanny stae of “Blue” category with NY, NJ MI WI IL MD et. al... Weez gonna vote us money from da treasury...ya’ll be good and woyk haad fo da man soz he c]kin payz us ya hear? O, else weez kum gets it and takes it... Obama sayz so....’scuz me The One! may his name be praised...there is no god but Obama and Ayers is his prophet. Oooooobammmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaraaaakbarrrrr
My mother is quite depressed. She thinks with less 1/2 of the vote going against Obama we’re done. There’s nothing we as conservatives can do - but I told here there were a LOT of conservatives who sat out this election...keep the faith!
It all adds up.
Duh...Acorn made sure that was the case.
Meanwhile, the MSM was touting a Hussein victory for days before the election and depressed the vote from the less committed GOP.
2 main reasons McCain lost:
1) A ceaselessly lying MSM (covering for ACORN, mispresenting Hussein's past and twisting truths about Palin, etc. etc.) and
2) Hussein's 4 to 1 advantage in $ because he unethically took non-public money.
Hussein did NOT win based on his own charisma or issues. The above 2 reasons are the ONLY reasons he won.
Oh, incidentally, just checked US censue and population in NC increased 800,000 from 2000 to now. See? Most of that increase is Northerners. I KNOW it because my kin live there.
Also, lots of Mexicans have come. Way too may according to my cousin.
Those states are rarely contested. The only reason he was able to contest them this time is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Still, I’m not sure what is more disconcerting, our side stayed home, large percentages switched from GOP to Dem, or he was literally able to raise armies of unwashed masses to vote for the first time...
and think about the money advantage. He can start raising for 2012 now... he could have over a billion in the kitty by 2011, and no serious candidate will even bother to run. This McCain-Feingold has turned out to be a huge disaster.
“O”bama
Had Huckabee dropped out, unless Thompson caught fire quickly, we would have faced the same election or one with an even weaker nominee. Aside from Thompson, who could have out talked Obama and won over conservatives, Huckabee might have been able to out talk Obama and match charisma - but there were too many Republicans (different mostly) that would have not supported him either. I believe Thompson was the only one with a chance, thus the “no fire in the belly” and “doesn’t really want it” mantras of the Left. This includes the Romney brigade that did their best to undermine Palin and even Romney himself who contradicted McCain when the latter called Obama a socialist.
You nailed it. It was next to impossible some days to get more than 6 people sign waving.
A guy at my office is from NC, and he said early voting just started this election year in NC. For two weeks people got to vote up until election day. I assume other states started early voting this year too.
It does create more turnout, because people have the opportunity to vote for two weeks vs one day.
Tell your mom to take heart. This is still the greatest country on earth and, God willing, we will remain so for a long, long time.
The kids in college who all voted for the Kenyan are the real dummies - they have the longest time to live under less than stellar conditions. Don’t know how old your mom is but if she’s upwards of her sixties, she had it good for awhile. I try to count my blessings any way I can.
All respect McCain for his military service and what most believe is a love for his country. But nonetheless he's a RINO and wasn't what we needed. Many saw the hand writing on the walls months ago when we were screaming for Romney, Thompson, Huckabee, or Tancredo but the powers to be selected their man for us. Anything BUT Guiliani or McCain; candidates uninspiring to the base, often even alienating portions of it, and unable to really gain much by running left.
McCain like Dole suffered from being too old, stiff, and perceived as establishment, uncool, and unfunny. McCain with his amnesty, anti-torture bill, global warming position, against oil exploration (a position he changed) as gas prices soared, and best of all “McCain Feingold” not only was a RINO, he largely orchestrated his own defeat. I wonder, does McCain still believe that his pandering in 2002 and push for campaign finance reform was such a great idea now that his opponent outspent him at least 3:1? Ironic, isn't it?
I don't know if any republican candidate during a republican held presidency would have stood a chance against the articulate, clean, politically savvy, MSM and Hollywood championed, black Democrat playing opposition politics in a time of economic uncertainty. Obama played with every issue he could get a hold of during this election: Iraq (When it was a hot theme), Global warming, gas prices and finally the economy. The economy being the big theme at the end which I think did McCain in. To McCains credit, probably any candidate we had would have lost. However, one must wonder, would an Obama have been able to take the upper ground on issues like the economy over a Romney?
And you know this because...........
At least we can wash our hands of everything that happens the next four years. I’m not sure if I would’ve had the will to watch McCain stumble through every difficult decision the unprincipled oaf would have. Also we would somehow get the blame for everything he did.
I’m quite contented he didn’t win. He didn’t deserve to.
Mark Levin said turnout for black people was only 1% higher, and the youth vote was only slightly higher than in 2004.
Lets face it, OUR people helped elect Obama.
Why did we read all the personal eye-witness reports of large turnouts in conservative areas? I can't believe that conservatives stayed home and ignored the danger to free speech and the 2nd Amendment. Old Joe Stalin must have been counting the votes.
Huckabee might well have held Virginia, North Carolina, and Indiana. Whether he could have countered the we’re too far behind mantra to win more in the rust belt is debatable. Florida - well, I lived there for almost half my life and there very well may be too many snowbirds to call it a southern state any longer.
Oh ok. I didn’t know, I don’t live there so I was just going on his word.
By staying home? Or by stupidly supporting him? I listened to Levin from 6:00 to 7:00 and didn't hear him mention numbers...at least I don't think except someone said that there are more of them than there are of us...
A few from the green party. The rest Dem's.
There is no GOP here anymore except for a weekly E-mail, likely from someones personal computer.
and zero is??????
You've got different types of voters.
1)People like us who live and breathe politics the whole year through and may even try to get others to vote for the republican candidate if that candidate excites us enough. It depends on our passion for that candidate and it's up to that candidate to give us the passion to spend our time to get out the vote. McCain was not that candidate.
2)People who are republican and only pay attention to politics 2 weeks out from the election.
3) People who are of neither party and only pay attention to politics 2 weeks out (which was about the time George Bush and McCain announced our economic situation is the worst it's ever been since the depression) and will vote for whoever they believe can do a better job.
It's very unlikely any true conservative would vote for Obama. It's more likely they stayed home and didn't vote at all if they didn't feel the republican was worth it.
For the conservative it was not a choice between McCain and Obama...it was a choice between McCain and staying home.
btt
I didn’t want McCain, but who in their right mind prefers a Marxist to a socialist-lite?
I've heard that also but my personal opinion is that the Republicans did turn out in larger numbers but voted against Bush and Republican party..
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