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John Lennon bio uncovers his seamy side [SHOCK]
bradenton.com ^ | October 29, 2008 | GLENN GARVIN

Posted on 10/30/2008 1:24:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

-"John Lennon: The Life," by Philip Norman (822 pages, $34.95)

Everybody from Bill Clinton to Fidel Castro loves to remember John Lennon as the dippy Utopian of "Imagine":" Imagine there's no countries/It isn't hard to do/Nothing to kill or die for/And no religion, too." Less remembered is the Lennon of "Run For Your Life": "Well I'd rather see you dead little girl/Than to be with another man." In Philip Norman's merciless biography, Lennon No. 2 is on full display, and the picture isn't pretty.

Spiteful and selfish, miserly and misogynistic, Lennon abused his friends, cheated on his women and quarreled with almost everyone he knew. His politics were phony and his public persona a pose, the working-class hero who never labored a day in his life. (Personal motto: "Death before work.") Even such details as his all-macrobiotic diet were hippie spinmastering; Norman recounts a horrified host discovering Lennon and Yoko Ono ransacking his refrigerator for bologna.

"John Lennon: The Life" started out as a semi-authorized biography, with Norman - the author of "Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation," a well-regarded history of the group's complicated and ultimately disastrous business dealings - getting full access to Ono and her family for three years' worth of interviews. But when Ono got a look at an early version of the manuscript, she told Norman he had been "mean to John" and cut him off. "I hope that in time she may revise this judgment for I do not think any other reader will share it," he writes.

Oh yes they will. Unlike Albert Goldman's vicious "The Lives of John Lennon," this book is no calculated character assassination. Norman admires Lennon's writing and musicianship and even appears to have some personal affection for Lennon. But he's undone by his reporting, which again and again butts up against the ruthlessness and self-indulgence with which Lennon conducted his life.

Manipulative from childhood, when he learned to play his troubled mother against the aunt who raised him, Lennon skated through art school on work done by his friends, then secured gigs for his band by installing the son of a club owner as the drummer. When the drummer, Pete Best, outlived his usefulness, and the band got a recording contract, Lennon sent the group's manager to fire him.

He loved to play the role of a thuggish Teddy Boy, the primitive British gangbangers of the day but let his burlier friends finish the fights he started. "He was playing the tough guy with nothing to back it up, which was a dangerous thing to do," recalls a bar bouncer who rescued Lennon from countless brawls when the Beatles were playing seedy bars in Germany.

No one was immune from his bullying. He smacked a girlfriend for talking to another man. (And you thought "You Can't Do That" - "Well, it's the second time, I've caught you talking to him/Do I have to tell you one more time, I think it's a sin" - was just a song.) He once mugged a drunken fan. And Norman even investigates - inconclusively - an accusation that the brain hemorrhage that killed original Beatles bass player Stuart Sutcliffe was caused by a beating administered by Lennon.

Perhaps no one suffered more at Lennon's hands than Cynthia Powell, his first wife. If their courtship was often ugly - when Cynthia suffered an appendicitis attack while on a date, Lennon simply put her on a train to her mother's house - their marriage was an utter travail. Left alone to cope with her pregnancy (Lennon was on the road and under pressure from his manager to keep the marriage secret), she endured a threadbare existence while her husband splurged on clothes. A college friend who bumped into Cynthia was aghast to learn that she had only a one-pound note to her name "and she was terrified that John would find out about it and take it."

Lennon cheated on Cynthia with friends, fans, practically any female at hand. (The dreamy, sitar-driven record "Norwegian Wood," widely assumed to be a drug anthem when it was released in 1965, actually chronicled an affair with a downstairs neighbor.) Yet when Lennon dumped her for the loony avant-garde artist Ono in 1968, the divorce suit accused Cynthia of adultery, even though Ono was pregnant with his child.

As the Beatles rose from a boozy bar band into the leading cultural export of Great Britain, Lennon maintained a carefully manicured image of puppy-dog rebellion, epitomized by his remark at a concert attended by various members of the royal family: "Will the people in the cheaper seats clap your hands? And the rest of you, if you'll just rattle your jewelry." With Ono, he restyled himself as king of the counterculture, with even less authenticity.

Certainly his callous blend of macho faithlessness and nearly deranged jealousy continued. Soon after taking up with Ono, he demanded that she write out a list of everyone she'd slept with - then flew into a rage when he saw it. (Like "You Can't Do That," "Run For Your Life" was less a song than a way of life.) And at the same time he was proclaiming that the Beatles' company Apple Corps was practicing "Western communism," he was privately blistering its lawyers and managers for bleeding money. One such tirade, about how he was "sick of being (bleeped) around by men in suits, sitting around on their fat arses" upset a deal that would have allowed the Beatles to keep control of their song publishing.

Michael Jackson, who gets a nickel every time somebody plays "Yesterday" or "I Want To Hold Your Hand," will no doubt be amused to read "John Lennon: The Life." It's even possible that Lennon would, too; had he survived a deranged fan's bullet in 1980, he'd be 68 and perhaps past the age of artifice. Certainly, whether he liked it or not, he would recognize the portrait in these pages. "These things are left out, about what bastards we were," he confessed in an unguarded post-Beatles moment. "(Bleeping) big bastards, that's what the Beatles were. You have to be a bastard to make it, and that's a fact. And the Beatles were the biggest bastards on Earth." Reading "John Lennon: The Life," you won't doubt it.


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I read a review (written in German) of this book that said Yoko Ono revealed Lennon wanted to have sex with McCartney.
1 posted on 10/30/2008 1:24:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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I think that this is pretty much old news - well, obviously, because the guy's been dead since what, 1981? But still, this sort of thing was known. I was never that huge a Beatles fan, but I do recall reading a bit about John. IIRC, he was a pretty bad alcoholic, and it took him "bottoming out" after Yoko threw him out to want to change. He didn't really start getting his life together until the whole "househusband" thing just before and after Sean was born, and he was starting to make music again - Double Fantasy was a good starting point, and it seemed to show a fresh outlook in music and life for John.

And then he was murdered. And of course, the author of another book takes another shot.

Mark

2 posted on 10/30/2008 1:34:59 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Lennon treated Julian awful—pretty much was non existent in his son’s life from what I remember reading.


3 posted on 10/30/2008 1:36:02 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Supposedly he did have a go with Brian Epstein.


4 posted on 10/30/2008 1:37:43 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I read a review (written in German) of this book that said Yoko Ono revealed Lennon wanted to have sex with McCartney.

They certainly had musical sex.

5 posted on 10/30/2008 1:38:23 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: MarkL
You are right, it is old news. Accounts of the cult of personality go back at least as far as the Old Testament. Old news or fresh, it is timely because we are living again the lessons we failed to learn: there is no mortal savior.


6 posted on 10/30/2008 1:39:08 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: beaversmom
Lennon treated Julian awful—pretty much was non existent in his son’s life from what I remember reading.

It always seemed to me that Lennon didn't really give a sh*t about anything: too dreamy.

7 posted on 10/30/2008 1:42:07 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Personally, Imagine is nausea inducing.....
8 posted on 10/30/2008 1:44:15 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: period end of story
Yep, a dreamy narcissist neglectful violent hypocrite peace activist.
9 posted on 10/30/2008 1:46:03 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Rummyfan

You’re not saying anything untrue. It’s the Communist Manifesto set to music.


10 posted on 10/30/2008 1:46:52 AM PDT by Rastus (This fall, terror has a new name: Obama joe Biden!)
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To: beaversmom

You can have PEACE if you want it.


11 posted on 10/30/2008 1:49:02 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Genius is pain.


12 posted on 10/30/2008 1:57:54 AM PDT by unspun (Pray and Work! - http://www.etpv.org/whatsnew.html)
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To: beaversmom

how did his first wife fare?....did she ever get any money?


13 posted on 10/30/2008 2:15:37 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Nothing new here. Remember John's lines from "Getting Better"?

I used to be cruel to my woman
I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved
Man, I was mean

Not to mention his interjections of "Can't get no worse" in the chorus after "Getting better all the time".

As messed up as John was, I still love his music. It doesn't get much better than "Instant Karma"!
14 posted on 10/30/2008 2:24:35 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

None of The Beatles were exactly role models , and as youths we were happily unaware of all that we now know , but of all The Beatles I think George had it the most together .


15 posted on 10/30/2008 2:30:04 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This info is just terrible!
I had this image of Lennon as an artistic and peaceful man.

I do so hate a bully :-(
And any man that would strike a woman is just a pathetic creature. I despise abusers of any sort.


16 posted on 10/30/2008 2:33:06 AM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: sushiman

Paul and Ringo seem to be well adjusted fellows.
Lennon had problems.

Lennon and Elvis seemed to be fellow travelers.
John had Yoko and Elvis had Parker.


17 posted on 10/30/2008 2:43:56 AM PDT by ChiMark
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To: Rummyfan

With all of the things he covers in “Imagine” I think he could have imagined a bulletproof vest or a bodyguard.


18 posted on 10/30/2008 2:47:27 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There’s probably no reason to reflect on how Lennon’s music and lifestyle is particularly in contrast to anything FReeper. There’s also no reason to continue to defame a man who was murdered and has been dead many these long decades. Thus I can only say that compared to many rappers and the Dixie Chicks....I’d rather listen to the White Album. And I see no reason to listen to Yoko. About anything.


19 posted on 10/30/2008 2:48:13 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Now here at the Rock we have two rules. Rule #1 obey all rules. Rule #2 no writing on the walls...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Somewhat interesting but not surprising. I’ve read a quite a few books on rock stars and bands and most of them act like Lennon has been described.


20 posted on 10/30/2008 2:53:05 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He sounds like a human being.


21 posted on 10/30/2008 3:33:17 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Grace = unmerited favor; Mercy = punishment withheld)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Selfish, self-indulgent, manipulative, amoral, quasi-communist facade of altruism over a veneer of greed— Any question whom he’d be supporting this election?


22 posted on 10/30/2008 3:42:39 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (In matters of style, swim with the current.; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.-- Thomas J)
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To: period end of story
I read a review (written in German) of this book that said Yoko Ono revealed Lennon wanted to have sex with McCartney.Paul or Linda?
23 posted on 10/30/2008 3:42:40 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America first Affirmative Action presidential candidate....)
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To: mikeus_maximus
Any question whom he’d be supporting this election?

Mao....

(Sorry for the previous post. Not enough coffee, yet....)

24 posted on 10/30/2008 3:43:59 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America first Affirmative Action presidential candidate....)
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To: dirtbiker
I read a review (written in German) of this book that said Yoko Ono revealed Lennon wanted to have sex with McCartney.

Paul or Linda?

There, fixed it....

25 posted on 10/30/2008 3:44:51 AM PDT by dirtbiker (Obama is America first Affirmative Action presidential candidate....)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I read a review (written in German) of this book that said Yoko Ono revealed Lennon wanted to have sex with McCartney.

Someone who would have sex with Yoko Ono would have sex with anyone.

26 posted on 10/30/2008 3:49:56 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The perfect icon for the left.


27 posted on 10/30/2008 4:03:13 AM PDT by Carley (The media understands credentials but does NOT understand principles.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Do you happen to know his take on the supposed murder of a sailor that Lennon precipitated by kicking him in the head? Goldman discusses that. (Personally, I couldn’t quite reading “The Lives of John Lennon.”)


28 posted on 10/30/2008 4:23:00 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Moral of the story - The preachers were all right! Don’t listen to that rock and roll!


29 posted on 10/30/2008 4:23:06 AM PDT by Esther Ruth ( Jesus - No other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12)
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To: sushiman

Ringo is the most successful (in life... not $$$$) and is still working. I saw a new Buck Owens video that had Buck in a duet with Ringo.

LLS


30 posted on 10/30/2008 4:27:40 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Ummm... Buck Owens passed away in 2006.


31 posted on 10/30/2008 4:30:46 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
1963's "Act Naturally" became Buck Owens and the Buckaroos' first #1 hit. The Beatles later recorded a cover of it in 1965. It appears on their Help! album. Ringo Starr later re-recorded the song as a duet with Buck Owens in 1988.

This one I guess... Sorry.

32 posted on 10/30/2008 4:32:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Yes... but it was on GAC and done right before he died... Buck looked sick and was bloated but a great video. Ringo is working all the time... not rock star retirement... a regular guy. I give that kudos.

LLS


33 posted on 10/30/2008 4:34:13 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: Rummyfan

He still making videos. /sarcasm


34 posted on 10/30/2008 4:38:19 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Vote McWhatshisname and PALIN)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Interesting article. Lennon was a complete fraud -- and a drug-addled communist to boot.

To quote the immortal "Frank from Queens" (a legendary caller on New York talk radio shows for years) on the 20th anniversary of Lennon's death back in 2000 . . . "Good riddance to that vermin!"

35 posted on 10/30/2008 5:03:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
With all of the things he covers in “Imagine” I think he could have imagined a bulletproof vest or a bodyguard.

ROFLOL. Please accept my nomination for a "Post of the Month" award, HGC.

36 posted on 10/30/2008 5:05:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: mikeus_maximus

Selfish, self-indulgent, manipulative, amoral, quasi-communist facade of altruism over a veneer of greed— Any question whom he’d be supporting this election?

Isn’t that always the way with the left? Yet each generation produces its own icons and a crowd of worshippers who line up to pay homage to them.


37 posted on 10/30/2008 5:07:49 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Rummyfan

I’ll bet he still votes!


38 posted on 10/30/2008 5:14:03 AM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This bio seems like more of an indictment on how the media controls perceptions. The Beatles/Lennon made money for everyone, perception must be controlled to safeguard the gravy train.


39 posted on 10/30/2008 5:18:12 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: MarkL

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it’s evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don’t you know that you can count me out?

You say you’ve got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We are doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is, brother, you’ll have to wait

You say you’ll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it’s the institution
Well, you know
You’d better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow


40 posted on 10/30/2008 5:37:09 AM PDT by Ytringsfrihed
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Lennon: The original poster child for “Shut Up and Sing”.


41 posted on 10/30/2008 6:00:16 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Thanks to the robber barons in D.C. and on Wall St. I've been forced to become a minimalist.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

At the time he was shot he was turning to the Right. He had donated bullet proof vests to the NYPD. He jumped all over benefit concerts for trendy causes as shams. He was even being nice to people.


42 posted on 10/30/2008 6:17:20 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

“He sounds like a human being.”

BINGO!!! You hit the nail on the head.

While I wouldn’t excuse the poor behavior of Lennon or any of the Beatles (let’s admit it-I’ve exhibited some myself in my life too), I’m surprised that so many people make them out to be gods and just WON’T hear that they were less than stellar as human beings.

Most of the really ‘bad’ stuff took place when they were very young. They were still teens in their years in Hamburg.
They grew up without having ANY ‘normalcy’ of life at all. And getting SO big and famous so early, with no one to tell a personality like Lennon’s “NO” only helped indulge the worst.


43 posted on 10/30/2008 6:30:57 AM PDT by J40000
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Those were actually lyrics by McCartney, which he also sings.


44 posted on 10/30/2008 6:39:32 AM PDT by SHAWON
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I recently heard an interview Lennon gave in 1970 or 1971 and I was stunned at how petty he was. Said things like George's new record (the megahit "All Things Must Pass") wasn't bad, he was turning into an adequate songwriter but he'd never be as good as Lennon. Man! Basically said he was the greatest songwriter ever, any success the Beatles had was because of him, and they would probably tank without him.

I get that this was an emotional time for those guys but so petty and so unnecessary. Said a lot more about Lennon than anyone else.

45 posted on 10/30/2008 6:48:05 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: SHAWON

I was under the impression that the song was one of the last collaborations between John and Paul, and those lines were John’s. I may be mistaken.


46 posted on 10/30/2008 6:48:23 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: GodBlessRonaldReagan

Would make sense though. Then again, maybe Bill Clinton wrote it?


47 posted on 10/30/2008 6:52:40 AM PDT by SHAWON
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To: SHAWON

lol!


48 posted on 10/30/2008 6:55:18 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Wakka-ding-hoy - battle cry of the Plexus Rangers!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did John’s first born son: Julian receive a nice settlement from Yoko?/Just Asking - seoul62.......


49 posted on 10/30/2008 6:57:26 AM PDT by seoul62
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I remember a month or so after Lennon's death McCartney tired of all the Lennon accolades stated:”he was a maneuvering swine who took credit for songs he didn't write.”

I heard Julian on the Howard Stern show years ago state that when he was in grade school he wore the same shoes for a year. His mom could not afford to buy him shoes.

“And so this is Christmas,and what have you done....”

50 posted on 10/30/2008 7:05:46 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Want to be lied to? Turn on your TV.)
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