Posted on 10/29/2008 2:13:09 PM PDT by pissant
Wake Up America. Barack Obama is a Fraud.
Via WorldNetDaily:
Independent scientific analysis by a number of leading experts supports the literary detective work of WND columnist Jack Cashill that has led him to conclude unrepentant domestic terrorist William Ayers was the primary author of important sections of Barack Obamas highly acclaimed memoir and editor of the book as a whole.
In a new column today, according to WND, Cashill reports four different stylometric analysts now have supported his extensive forensic evidence, and he awaits the results from a fifth.
Cashills expert team includes university professors from the U.S. and England in the statistical analysis of authorship, systems engineers, writers and Ph.D. literary analysts. Most, particularly professors at public universities, asked that their names not be revealed.
Cashill cautions that the data-driven computer analysis is not foolproof, but all of the four independent tests that have been completed point to the same conclusion, that Ayers was heavily involved in the writing of Dreams.
One analyst, who used his own proprietary software, wrote to Cashill that there is a strong likelihood that the author of Fugitive Days, Ayers own memoir, ghost-wrote Dreams From My Father using recordings of dialog.
Cashills analysis is fascinating. His dozen or so columns on the topic are summarized here. An excerpt:
Sometime between 1992 and 1994, Simon & Schuster canceled the advance it had offered Obama to write Dreams. Obama had not been able to finish the book on his own. Ayers could help. He provided an informal editing service for like-minded friends in the neighborhood.
Fellow radical Rashid Khalidi attests to this in the very first sentence of the acknowledgements in his 2004 book, Resurrecting Empire. There are many people without whose support and assistance I could not have written this book, or written it in the way that it was written, he writes. First, chronologically, and in other ways, comes Bill Ayers.
Ayers and Obama have a good deal in common. Both grew up in comfortable white households and have struggled to find an identity as black men ever since. Just as Obama resisted the pure and heady breeze of privilege to which he was exposed as a child, Ayers too resisted white skin privilege or at least tried to. I also thought I was black, says Ayers only half-jokingly.
As part of his analysis, Cashill studied Barack Obamas previous written works (via WND):
Cashill points out that in contrast to Dreams, the Obama writing samples unearthed before 1995 are pedestrian and uninspired.
There is no precedent for this kind of literary transformation, he writes.
More from the experts:
A systems engineer told Cashill, The statistical style analysis performed by our research team suggests that the writing style of Dreams From My Father is significantly more similar to the style observed in Fugitive Days than to the style found in other works by Barack Obama such as Audacity of Hope.
Another analyst writes, We strongly think this bears immediate investigation by the academic community at large as the initial data presented is highly suggestive that these two documents share large portions of authorship.
four different stylometric analysts now have supported his extensive forensic evidence, and he awaits the results from a fifth.
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4 out of 4 ain’t bad so far.
if it smells like a skunk,
it’s a skunk.
Great, a Plagiarist and a Cheat (Biden)
Wonder who would Ghost-run the government?
No need to answer....
I don’t see the big deal. Has anyone read a Tom Clancy novel written by Clancy in the last 10 years? I have “his” last two and they stink. It’s not Clancy.
When you lie and it comes back in your face like this, it destroys the public’s ability to trust. If this gets wide play, Obama is going to get swept broadly.
“I didn’t know him. I was just 8.”
“Well, he did collaborate with me to write my memoir.”
*error* *error* *error* This does not compute!
I bet Ayers is the guy 0bama shared his toys with, too.
I want to believe it, but I have zero faith in the source.
Well, he deserves to get drunk after having four tests come back positive.
I think that Obama did not write the book and the most logical person to have written is William Ayers because of their close association even though he won’t admit it.
But... Only two people know for sure and they aren’t talking so this is kind of a dead end unless we can get a draft where Ayer’s handwriting is all over it.
“I dont see the big deal. Has anyone read a Tom Clancy novel written by Clancy in the last 10 years? I have his last two and they stink. Its not Clancy.”
The big deal is the Obama lie about the casual relationship between him and the terrorist.
Heck, I bet Ayers freakin' babysat him. Apparently he babysat his book - it's not that far fetched.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/evidence_mounts_ayers_cowrote.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2101151/posts
Who Wrote Dreams From My Father?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html
http://experimentumcrucis.blogspot.com/2008/10/more-evidence-that-ayers-ghostwrote.html
| Ayer's Published Dates | Days since previous published date | Title |
| 6/1/2009 | 120.00 | Race Course Against White Supremacy |
| 2/1/2009 | 19.00 | The Herb Kohl Reader: Awakening the Heart of Teaching |
| 1/12/2009 | 46.00 | Fugitive Days PA: Memoirs of an Anti-War Activist |
| 11/26/2008 | 115.00 | Handbook of Social Justice in Education |
| 8/1/2008 | 1036.00 | City Kids, City Schools: More Reports from the Front Row |
| 2006: THE AUDACITY OF HOPE | ||
| 9/15/2005 | 524.00 | Teaching Toward Freedom |
| 4/1/2004 | 180.00 | Teaching the Personal and the Political: Essays on Hope and Justice |
| 10/1/2003 | 510.00 | On the Side of the Child: Summerhill Revisited (Between Teacher and Text, 2) |
| 5/1/2002 | 150.00 | Refusing Racism: White Allies and the Struggle for Civil Rights (Teaching for Social Justice, 8) |
| 12/1/2001 | 30.00 | Zero Tolerance Resisting the Drive for Punishment |
| 11/1/2001 | 51.00 | A School of Our Own: Parents, Power, and Community at the East Harlem Block School |
| 9/10/2001 | 189.00 | Fugitive Days |
| 3/1/2001 | 270.00 | To Teach: The Journey of a Teacher |
| 6/1/2000 | 150.00 | A Simple Justice: The Challenge of Small Schools (Teaching for Social Justice Series) |
| 1/1/2000 | 300.00 | Teaching from the Inside Out: The Eight - Fold Path to Creative Teaching and Living |
| 3/1/1999 | 210.00 | Teacher Lore: Learning from Our Own Experience |
| 8/1/1998 | 60.00 | Teaching for Social Justice: A Democracy and Education Reader |
| 6/1/1998 | 764.00 | A Kind and Just Parent |
| 4/17/1996 | 256.00 | City Kids, City Teachers: Reports from the Front Row |
| 8/1/1995 | 2280.00 | To Become a Teacher: Making a Difference in Children's Lives |
| 1995: DREAMS FROM MY FATHER | ||
| 4/1/1989 | The Good Preschool Teacher: Six Teachers Reflect on Their Lives | |
| Average days w/o break | 327 | 0.895890411 |
| Longest break | 1036 | 2.838356164 |
Are you saying Bill Ayers is ghost writing for Clancy also?
At least no one is saying that Ayers “ghost” wrote. Imagine the cries of racism.
LOL. No big deal? Are you f**king nuts? The Dem candidate for President had his autobiography co-written by an unrepentant terrorist who is an avowed Marxist and has a wife of similar pedigree who live down the street. The problem is proving it and this doesn’t do it.
PING

"This is a guy [Bill Ayers] who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English..."

YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!

"Imperialism. Im against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolutiona revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good must win.
We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.
Source: Bill Ayers' own website:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/
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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
-Bill Ayers, New York Times, September 11, 2001:
Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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From The Weekly Standard, 'Barack Obama's Lost Years', 08/11/2008:
"Ayers opposes trying even the most vicious juvenile murderers as adults. Beyond that, he'd like to see the prison system itself essentially abolished. Unsatisfied with mere reform, Ayers wants to address the deeper 'structural problems of the system.' Drawing explicitly on Michel Foucault, a French philosopher beloved of radical academics, Ayers argues that prisons artificially impose obedience and conformity on society, thereby creating a questionable distinction between the 'normal' and the 'deviant.' The unfortunate result, says Ayers, is to leave the bulk of us feeling smugly superior to society's prisoners. Home detention, Ayers believes, might someday be able to replace the prison. Ayers also makes a point of comparing America's prison system to the mass-detention of a generation of young blacks under South African Apartheid. Ayers's tone may be different, but the echoes of Jeremiah Wright's anti-prison rants are plain."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=2
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"This is a guy [Bill Ayers] who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis."
Source: ABC News - Transcript: Obama and Clinton Debate, April 16, 2008
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/DemocraticDebate/Story?id=4670271&page=2
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[Obama] is named Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge founded by Bill Ayers
(article typo has Ayers instead of Obama)
In late 1993, Bill Ayers, now an associate professor of education at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus, organized a team to put together a grant proposal to secure nearly $50 million from the Annenberg Challenge. The money was to be used by Ayers and co. to bolster the radical Local School Councils reform project that Ayers and Obama had championed back in 1988 through the ABCs.
The grant application was successful and in early 1995 Barack Obama was named chairman of the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers was named co-chair of the Challenges operative and strategic body, the Chicago School Reform Collaborative. Ayers and Obama work together for the next five years on raising an additional $60 million in matching money from local foundations and corporations and using the money to intervene in the governance of the Chicago public schools.
The Challenge through a multi-million dollar Leadership Development Initiative intervened in the School Council elections in the middle of what was known as the Chicago School Wars. At the same time Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was pushing, successfully, to gut the power of the Councils.
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"The Small Schools Workshop was founded in 1991 at the University of Illinois at Chicago to provide support for teachers who were trying to create new smaller learning environments. Its director is Michael Klonsky, a former professor of education at UIC."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Schools_Workshop
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Some background on Bill Ayers' SDS comrade, Michael Klonsky
(Chicago Annenberg Challenge-related)
"One of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrns comrades in the late 60s Students for a Democratic Society was Mike Klonsky. When Dohrn and Ayers moved in one direction toward the violent tactics of the Weather Underground, Klonsky, in the wake of the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, dropped the pro-Russian communist politics of his parents and became a committed Maoist. As leader of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) in 1977 [not to be confused with Communist Party USA. CPML no longer exists, CPUSA formed decades earlier and is still around-ETL], he travelled to Beijing and was toasted by the senior Beijing leadership.
When the crazy left of the 70s died in the 80s, Klonsky went to graduate school in education in Florida and then moved to Chicago.
While driving a cab there he [Michael Klonsky] was recruited by his old friend Bill Ayers to head up a new project called the Small Schools Workshop in 1991. Its offices were in the Department of Education building at the University of Illinois Chicago Circle Campus where Ayers taught.
In 1995 the newly formed Chicago Annenberg Challenge headed by Ayers and Obama gave the Workshop a grant of $175,000.
The Annenberg Challenge also had its office space in the same building as Ayers Department and the Workshop, rent free courtesy of the University.
In 2008 Klonsky ran a blog on the official Obama campaign website on education policy and social justice teaching. When discussion of the Klonsky blog emerged in the blogosphere, it was promptly shut down by the campaign and all of the posts made by Klonsky were removed from the site."
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In 1977, the October League was reorganized as the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) [again, not Communist Party USA (CPUSA) -ETL] and former SDS activist Michael Klonsky became party chairman. Also in 1977, Klonsky traveled to China and the CPML was recognized by the Chinese Communist Party as its official sister party in America.
(snip)
In January 1981, Michael Klonsky resigned as party chairman, and the CPML disbanded that same year.
The previous Red Encyclopedia description of the CPML was incorrectly combined with that of the Communist Party USA (Marxist-Leninist).
http://reds.linefeed.org/past.html
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From Investor's Business Daily (IBD), August 27, 2008:
"Ayers, now a tenured distinguished professor of education at UIC, works to educate teachers in socialist revolutionary ideology, urging that it be passed on to impressionable students.
One of Ayer's descriptions for a course called 'Improving Learning Environments' says prospective K-12 teachers need to 'be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and ... be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, teaching for social justice and liberation.
The Annenberg papers are quite extensive 132 boxes containing 947 file folders with 70 linear feet of material. They undoubtedly contain more surprises regarding Obama's relationship with Ayers, one of many relationships Obama has sought to hide.'..."
Article: Annenberg Papers: Putting On Ayers?
http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=304729375940845
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Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
Revolution #63, October 1, 2006
Interview with Bill Ayers:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"
http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html
Exactly so. Obama will never distance himself from someone who has the good on him.
BTTT
Please rethink this. It is a big deal if true.
He’s not a plagarist as he didn’t steal from Ayers if Ayers wrote it for him. We know the truth about their relationship will never come out unless either one of them or someone who just happened to live in the neighborhood has proof that Ayers wrote it. Why hasn’t anyone contacted his book’s editor?
I’m sure he shared some book royalties with Ayers, too. And if he did I’m sure he’s given him cash thus Ayers would be guilty of tax evasion. Man, these guys are so dirty they’d make old man Dailey cringe.
Uh... no. It was a parallel.
They all live in my neighborhood just blocks away.
Obama describes Ayers as a professor of English. He wasn’t. He was a professor (or associate professor?) of education. Why would Obama make an error like that?
First of all, watch your mouth.
Second, in the scheme of things, five days before the election there are a dozen different, more important issues than Obama The Marxist Anarchist's ghostewriter.
Third, very few know who Bill Ayers is, so why connect the dots to The Marxist's book?
Forth, if McCain wanted to win this election all he has to do is show Americans that The Marxist is not a patriot. This shot should have been included in every McCain ad and plastered on billboards across the country.
Fifth, McCain should be playing the Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleiger, and Bill Ayers tapes.
So don't lecture me about a topic that is essentially meaningless at this point in time of the campaign.
1) Not if no one knows who William Ayers is.
2) McCain won't even show the Jeremiah Wright tapes nor The Marxist failing to show respect for the American Flag.
3) This Ayers ghostwriting thing will not grow legs this late in the election cycle, even if it could, there's no point if no one know that Ayers is a self described anarchist Marxist.
People need to think through reality. And the reality is that very few voters have a clue what's going on. We assume that most voters are as well informed as we are.
He said that during a debate with Hillary. I'll bet he panicked a little knowing what we all now know: how close he worked with Ayers on various radical 'education' projects (Annenberg Challenge, Small Schools Workshop, etc), and didn't want to give even the slightest hint as to the truth of the matter.
Not exactly Mr Roger's neighborhood, is it?
In order to discredit this, Obama will have to attack the very tools that Universities use to weed out plagiarism today.
Or, he's going to have to show that only HIS book was erroneously flagged by this analysis.
-PJ
-PJ
Please. If it were ever to come out in a proveable, undeniable way that Bill Ayers co-wrote Obama's autobiography, the election would be over. Ayer's would have moved from being a guy in the neighborhood to a fellow board member to now a close confidant. If you have trouble understanding that, then there is little left to discuss. Third, very few know who Bill Ayers is, so why connect the dots to The Marxist's book?
Now you are discussing methodology and process. That's not the issue between us.
Forth, if McCain wanted to win this election all he has to do is show Americans that The Marxist is not a patriot. This shot should have been included in every McCain ad and plastered on billboards across the country.
Again, irrelevant in this discussion. You indicated that it would be no big deal if it were discovered that Bill Ayers co-wrote Obama's autobiography. It would be a very big deal because it would show Obama to be a total liar and a fraud. He would lose all credibility even if Ayers was not a terrorist. It just so happens he is and Obama has not been forthcoming about this relationship from the beginning just like he has been lying about his relationship with Wright, Khalidi, Farrkhan, Rezcvo, etc.
Fifth, McCain should be playing the Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleiger, and Bill Ayers tapes.
That is all part of the same story, Obama lying about his associations. You just don't get it.
So don't lecture me about a topic that is essentially meaningless at this point in time of the campaign.
Meaningless? If it could be proved beyond a doubt that Ayers co-wrote Obama's autobiography, it would be devastating to Obama's campaign. The operative word is prove. Again, you don't get it.
I would like to agree, but this can’t be right. Ayers is just a guy who lives in Obamas neighborhood.”
And Michelle Nobama and Bernadette Dorhn were just “co-workers” at the same law firm.........
Notice too that Ayers didn't publish his own Fugitive Days memoir until 2001 (only 189 days after publishing another project).
Obama's Dreams of My Father was published 6 years before in 1995.
If it had been the other way around -- if Ayers had written his memoir first and then Obama's came out -- it would be easier to believe that Obama had been impressed with Ayers's work and asked him to ghost his own memoir.
As it is, if the similarities are compelling (and we don't know that they are -- some of them seem pretty unexceptional), maybe Ayers liked Obama's memoir and copied from it, or maybe they had the same ghost.
But to think that Obama would let someone with little literary experience ghost his book is pretty lame. There would have been other, more experienced ghost writers and editors to choose from.
The point is that there is real science in this type of analytics. It doesnt prove conclusively that something is a knock-off, but it puts some very telling facts front-and-center for a person to use with other investigative techniques.
There is no precedent for this kind of literary transformation, he writes.
Of course there are precedents for such transformations. Look at some of the early poetry of people who went on to turn out good or even great works (not that Obama's works are great, but there have been bigger jumps from early to later works).
But we don't have to believe that Obama did all that on his own. He probably had a ghost or an editor who substantially rewrote his work. But to say that Ayers was the ghost is probably a leap too far.
Anyway, if the whole "seafaring imagery" part of Cashill's preliminary report is anything to go on, he hasn't proven anything. It's pretty lame.
Cashill is methodical. Hell, Michael Reagan writes at WND.
It goes far beyond the seafaring language, but you can pretend it doesn’t.
BUMP
Excellent compilation bump
Right ... there's stuff like this ...
There are any number of intriguing non-nautical word connections between Dreams and Fugitive Days, but one that deserves mention is the repeated reference to lies, lying and what Ayers calls our constructed reality.
But another part of me knew that what I was telling them was a lie, writes Obama, something Id constructed from the scraps of information Id picked up from my mother.
That whole first year seemed like one long lie, Obama writes of his first year in college in Los Angeles, one of at least a dozen references to lies and lying in Dreams, a figure nearly matched in Fugitive Days.
"Lies" and "lying" in a book by a politician ... About a dozen times in each book ... Convincing ... I guess that nails it...
If Ayers had published his book before Obama's this theory would have more credibility than it does. He'd have been an established memoirist with a literary reputation who Obama might have turned to to write his own book.
But since Obama published his first, it's hard to think of Ayers as the likely ghost writer. Maybe Cashill has something else, but so far he hasn't come up with much worth pondering.
Okay. Let’s see you make this happen.
You just don’t get it, genius.
Precisely!
When Obama was at columbia in 1982 Bill Ayers was less than a quarter mile away at Bank Street College of Education where he got a degree in 1984 in “Early Childhood Education” bfore transferring to Columbia.
Obama’s (Marxist) English professor was Bill Ayers’ close friend Edward Said.
Edward Said was Yasser Arafat’s spokesman, a position later taken by Rashid Khalidi, another mutual friend of both Ayers and Obama..
Connect the dots, folks.
This cabal has been joined at the hip since 1982...
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