Posted on 10/28/2008 6:25:39 PM PDT by AlwaysMsBHaven
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - A federal judge in Ohio has ruled that counties must allow homeless voters to list park benches and other locations that aren't buildings as their addresses.
U.S. District Judge Edmund Sargus also ruled that provisional ballots can't be invalidated because of poll worker errors.
Monday's ruling resolved the final two pieces of a settlement between the Northeast Ohio Coalition for the Homeless and Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner.
The coalition agreed to drop a constitutional challenge to Ohio's voter identification law until after the Nov. 4 election. In return, Brunner and the coalition agreed on procedures to verify provisional ballots across all Ohio counties.
The coalition was concerned that unequal treatment of provisional ballots would disenfranchise some voters.
lol our country has lost it or we lost the country.
“How is this possible?”
It’s easy....Bush didn’t take out the dems when he had the chance.
So now we pay the price.
Search first, then worry about bums on benches...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;q=quick;s=benches
Clinton appointee
Sargus, Edmund A. Jr.
Born 1953 in Wheeling, WV
Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Southern District of Ohio
Nominated by William J. Clinton on December 22, 1995, to a seat vacated by Carl Bernard Rubin; Confirmed by the Senate on July 22, 1996, and received commission on August 1, 1996.
Education:
Brown University, A.B., 1975
Case Western Reserve University School of Law, J.D., 1978
Professional Career:
Private practice, Bellaire and St. Clairsville, Ohio, 1978-1993
Special counsel, Attorney General of Ohio, 1979-1993
Member, City Counsel of St. Clairsville, Ohio, 1988-1991
U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio, 1993-1996
Race or Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
You are only the messenger. The message SUCKS! Welcome to FR, carry on.
Exactly.
How does one do that, to be precise?
Welfare issues the homeless GPS unit now?
I am not sure about park benches as addresses but there should be a system for people without homes to be able to vote.
Well there you go guys, list another address as under the bridge, near the train station and you can vote again.
Well there you go guys, list another address as under the bridge, near the train station and you can vote again. After all you wont need id for it, and tramps dont have anything to prove who they are, so go vote in your nice clothes, then put some rags on and do it again.
A Democrat from Wheeling, WV. No more questions. That explains it all.
What the haich kind of “judge” is this
Welcome to FR!
It’s actually a good call by the judge, in my opinion. The right to vote is not dependent on property. I don’t think the homeless will make intelligent voters, for the most part, but that’s beside the point. Voting is a right.
The best way to do it, is to make them register at the local homeless shelter but to be honest, i think most homeless people couldnt give a damn about voting, i think have more things to worry about and the only thing that would happen is that it would leave them open to their vote being bought.
Welcome to the “living constitution.”
Just ask their frickin name and social and require they have been in the state for 30 days and they have voted no where else for pete’s sake.
That does it! I’m going over to Ohio & I’m going to vote 10 times!
This activism by ACORN has been in full force signing up transient voters. That is the politically correct term for homeless people.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jNpDn7t8QzwKUyyYpmQ4-av_1-SAD927MR0O0
More homeless people expected to vote this fall
The voter registration forms have been addressed to soup kitchens and cross roads of parks that the homeless frequent.
Voter Fraud Activism by ACORN ping
Because how can we be sure that the “John Smith” in Maple Park isn’t the same “John Smith” in Central Park? Should they have MORE rights than the rest? Perhaps they should at least be required to be registered and issued an ID at a homeless shelter so there’s some accountability.
OR what is the chance of an Acorn volunteer making up all sorts of homeless people and then send their minions to vote, over and over, claiming to be those people? Probably very good.
In the age of rampant voter fraud, this is just ludicrous! The people who become homeless through no fault of their own usually hook up with a church or shelter. They can use that address. Those who have totally dropped out and are living on park benches shouldn’t be able to vote. They’re not even in a position to make an informed vote, but if the Acorn/Obama people come by and promise a “chicken in every pot” you can bet they’ll get themselves to the polls.
It’s obscene!!
Most homeless people who are down on their luck will not take the time to stand in a long line and vote. The judge should make sure the park benches and overpasses have an amble supply of absentee ballots with stamps included.
The Home less when they get their Social security checks always have an ID and an Address..but Votong shouldn’t be Different.. in the winter they Go to a Salvationarmy or a Local Sheletr.. but they have a Photo ID Issued By Department of Motor Vehicles.. not a Drivers License.. Thats How they Cash checks why is this different!
The question is not where a person lives, but whether they have the right to vote in that state at all.
In California, voters are registered at the county level. I wonder how hard it would be for me to register in my five surrounding counties by listing a street corner as my address? Pretty damned easy I'll bet.
The requirement of a domicile address is not unreasonable.
Yes, this country really is screwed!
Were you aware that the mind-numbed left has already misued the term so that people who ARE IN A HOME are counted as HOMELESS if that "home" also provides FREE MEALS to the indigent.
When you start adding in family generations, that steps right off the planet.
Can I list a particular bathroom stall at the airport as my legal address?
I can see how this could be useful. If the bathroom stall became my legal address can I redirect all my junk mail there?
Granted, most homeless people I have encountered could not really care who is president but simply because one choses not to have a home should not disenfranchise them from voting.
However, they do need to have an address such as a shelter, park or bridge.
No, but you could be a Republican Senator from Idaho.
I would, but I know I look like a conservative. They’d flag me as soon as I stood in the line.
Technically, maybe a good call.
Practically; how many homeless people can claim the SAME bench, and vote without other ID?
How do you police such nonsense when ANYONE can come into ANY precinct and claim to be a homeless person, give a park bench location, and then vote?
Makes my single vote pretty worthless in Ohio, IMHO.
I am going to work to see if my cat, Bubba, can vote. He has a permanent address.
I didn’t say they were living with the, sport. I said dependent upon them. Who says there’s an extra room at the kids’? I didn’t. But if you live in or near a big city and you have any awareness at all, you know that there are folks living under bridges and in parks that get support from family that doesn’t include a roof over their heads.
Incomplete sentance - it should read:
I am not sure about park benches as addresses but there should be a system for residents of Ohio without homes to be able to vote once and only once.
Problem with this scheme is that a busload of people claiming to be homeless can drive from one precinct to the next voting as though they are homeless. This disenfranchises honest votes. It is fraud, plain and simple.
What "big city" are you in?
Do you have ANY idea of how the inner-city ID is handled? If it's at all like Cleveland, and you vote in the inner-city, you show up with ANY ID that even resembles an ID, and you can register and vote.
That's the way it works in Cincinatti, Columbus, Toledo, Dayton, etc., and every inner-city neighborhood in Ohio. In the "hood", you don't get asked questions about your ID or who you claim to be; you show up, go vote for The Messiah, and move on to the next precinct.
End of story in Ohio.
Yup, just goes to show you that, you don't compromise with democrats, you defeat them.
Is there any confusion as to why our country is going to hell?
Well, of course. But there could also a busload of people with homes who drive from one polling place to the other claiming to live in that precinct.
You've got that right. Even if it's a "provisional" ballot, it's difficult to NOT count it once the vote is made.
I spent the better (well, maybe not better) part of my life in Cuyahoga County and I agree with what you say about Cleveland politics. The whole county is a little crooked, just like the river. :)
Are you saying homeless should not be allowed to vote?????
Compare the protagonist in Jettro Tull’s Aqualung with the comtemporary homeless. Has anybody ran into a park bench with an, “I’m a begger, and I vote”, sticker on it?
Aqualung
Sitting on a park bench
eyeing little girls
with bad intent.
Snot running down his nose
greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes.
Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run.
Feeling like a dead duck
spitting out pieces of his broken luck.
Sun streaking cold
an old man wandering lonely.
Taking time
the only way he knows.
Leg hurting bad,
as he bends to pick a dog end
goes down to a bog to
warm his feet.
Feeling alone
the army’s up the rode
salvation a la mode and
a cup of tea.
Aqualung my friend
don’t start away uneasy
you poor old sod
you see it’s only me.
Do you still remember
December’s foggy freeze
when the ice that
clings on to your beard is
screaming agony.
And you snatch your rattling last breaths
with deep-sea diver sounds,
and the flowers bloom like
madness in the spring.
The number of "homeless" was seriously overstated when they started counting residents of facilities where free meals are passed out.
Well seeing as the Constitution didn’t give voting rights to women or slaves, I’m not sure what you’re getting at?
I don’t have a problem with the “homeless” voting but if they have to have an address to be a registered voter, how can one identify a random park bench as an address? Is mail delivered there?
All the homeless people I know (and I know quite a few in my line of work) have a program or shelter, a PO Box or a relative where they can receive mail. That’s not a problem—a park bench IS!
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