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DOW Down 500+
tatown | 10/22 | tatown

Posted on 10/22/2008 12:38:35 PM PDT by tatown

DOW currently down 561 points.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: busheconomy; djia; dowjones; economy; omgwearedoomed; thebusheconomy; wallstreet; yetanothervanity
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Is my tinfoil hat too tight or does this continuation of the severe market sell-off seem coincidentally timed going into the last two weeks of the election?
1 posted on 10/22/2008 12:38:35 PM PDT by tatown
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To: tatown

More so that the economy is facing reality.


2 posted on 10/22/2008 12:40:10 PM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: tatown

Yawwwwwn. It will recover tomorrow. No big deal.


3 posted on 10/22/2008 12:40:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: tatown

Thanks to Drudge blasting the Zogby polls showing Obama UP 10 points.


4 posted on 10/22/2008 12:40:54 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: tatown

-620.......


5 posted on 10/22/2008 12:41:42 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FR....Monthly Donors Wanted)
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To: tatown

Great, another -700+ day.

Our economy is scared to death of a socialist President.


6 posted on 10/22/2008 12:41:47 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: tatown

Gold down big time too...


7 posted on 10/22/2008 12:41:47 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana

So’s oil.

Looks more like the dollar is up.


8 posted on 10/22/2008 12:42:27 PM PDT by Beelzebubba (Guns don't kill people, criminals and the governments that create them do.)
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To: tatown

The WSJ reported that Obama was up 10 points on their front page; hence naturally the stock market droped.


9 posted on 10/22/2008 12:43:07 PM PDT by Obadiah (Vote for Obama so he can spread your wealth!)
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To: Beelzebubba

The dollar continues it’s northward climb...


10 posted on 10/22/2008 12:43:09 PM PDT by tatown (RINO's have destroyed the Republican party.)
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To: 2banana

I thought they bailed us out...

Maybe they need to bail some more?

I think another 700 billion freebucks will help...


11 posted on 10/22/2008 12:43:31 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: tatown

Your job exporting deficit trade deals at work.

MAKE HERE, MAKE NOW.


12 posted on 10/22/2008 12:43:45 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: 1Old Pro
DING...DING...DING...we have a winner....

"Our economy is scared to death of a socialist President."

13 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:08 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: tatown

Whew! Good thing we spent some $700 BILLION (+earmarks) to save them Wall Street fat-cat hides, or else this economy would be in trouble.


14 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:20 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspell)
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To: Obadiah
The WSJ reported that Obama was up 10 points on their front page; hence naturally the stock market droped.

I hope and pray to GOD that this doesn't become a self fulfilling prophecy.

15 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:23 PM PDT by Marathoner (Voting for Sarah and the white haired guy.)
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To: tatown

If the GOP rises in the polls, there is a late day drop in the Dow, the democrats just can’t stand it.

The economy must suffer so Obama can win.


16 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:24 PM PDT by indylindy (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: tatown

Simple - People getting out before the election should BO become president. They can get back in after the election but it pays to get out now.


17 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:24 PM PDT by jongaltsr (Hope to See ya in Galt's Gulch.)
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To: Red Steel

You can thank your friendly Obama sycophant media for this precipitous drop ... business is not looking forward to the next four years as envisioned by the media worshipping the little Marxist squirrel. Capitalism doeswn’t fair well in Marxist onslaught from within. Charles Schumer pushed the first domino over with his airing of the coming failure of Indymac bank ... it would fail but had several months of struggle in which to try and save itself had the democrap Schumer not made media news which caused an immediate run on the bank. Shcumer is the one who started the dmeocrat stealth financial failure in motion. The media, of course, will not expose that for the electorate to see the truth.


18 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: tatown

I don’t think that is unreasonable to think.

I believe we are in a blackmail scenario. Vote for Barack or “we” will tank the economy.

Buffet and Soros only scratch the surface of super wealthy that hate Republicans and Palinites. Little has been made of how the super rich have rallied to the Obama campaign long ago more than any previous democratic candidate. For some reason this is not highly rated by the media.

The candidate that raised half a billion dollars in campaign cash is still taking in huge sums despite the stock market collapse. He has huge moneymakers behind him.

They do have the power to disrupt the market. The DOJ is investigating about 30 businesses for this possible activity but I doubt it will amount to anything.


19 posted on 10/22/2008 12:44:50 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: tatown
People are panicking about a possible NOBAMA President. It will bounce back up once MSM reports they are neck and neck (hahaha, I made a funny)!

What I meant to say is it will bounce back once McCain and Palin are elected into office!

20 posted on 10/22/2008 12:45:05 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Michelle Obama...Queen of the Damned (courtesy of CougarGA7)
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To: Obadiah
The WSJ reported that Obama was up 10 points on their front page; hence naturally the stock market droped.

No, no, no...... The market didn't NOSEDIVE until after noon when the AP poll came out showing McCain and Obama virtually tied. (Just getting ahead of the MSM for this evening's newscasts). Obviously, the market is scared to death of a McCain win..... /s

21 posted on 10/22/2008 12:45:33 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Be bold. Be brave. You're an American.)
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To: tatown

22 posted on 10/22/2008 12:45:42 PM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: lonestar67

Since the SEC repealed the uptick rule, shorts can do whatever they waant to drive down a stock. Chris Cox is completely corrupt.


23 posted on 10/22/2008 12:45:49 PM PDT by ground_fog
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To: Beelzebubba

Wholesale price of gasoline (RBOB) is down to $1.57/gal.

http://www.nymex.com/index.aspx


24 posted on 10/22/2008 12:46:19 PM PDT by tatown (RINO's have destroyed the Republican party.)
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To: tatown

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


25 posted on 10/22/2008 12:47:30 PM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: tatown

I suppose this seals the deal for Obama. Job losses, manufacturing orders, DJIA...it all adds up to a landslide for what is going to be four and possibly eight years of socialistic hell. Thanks to you, George W. Bush!!!!


26 posted on 10/22/2008 12:48:08 PM PDT by meandog (Hey Rush: Get it through your head...George W. Bush deserves the blame!)
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To: tatown

The stock market is merely anticipating the economic effects of the victory of Obama and the mega-crooks of the democrat Congress.


27 posted on 10/22/2008 12:48:19 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: tatown

There’s a new Bailout on the horizon, so stocks are down.


28 posted on 10/22/2008 12:48:56 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bushonomics: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses......."PAULSON'S THEFT")
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To: tatown

Earnings reports from yesterday are driving it.


29 posted on 10/22/2008 12:49:40 PM PDT by saganite (Obama (Senator Government) is a political STD)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Well, which is it? We are contantly led to believe that the polls are wrong and that McCain will win, yet you are saying that the market is anticipating an Obama win.


30 posted on 10/22/2008 12:49:46 PM PDT by tatown (RINO's have destroyed the Republican party.)
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To: meandog
"Thanks to you, George W. Bush!!!!"

Don't forget Don Paulson and Capo Bernanke.

31 posted on 10/22/2008 12:50:21 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Bushonomics: Privatize Gains, Socialize Losses......."PAULSON'S THEFT")
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To: tatown

Seeing it this low pisses me off. It’s like there’s a brand new chainsaw some widow is selling at a tag sale for $5, and i only have $2. I want to be able to buy more at these bargain basement prices!


32 posted on 10/22/2008 12:50:22 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: tatown

This is due to the polling that distorts reality for osamabama... the media is talking down the markets by talking up hussein.

LLS


33 posted on 10/22/2008 12:50:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: tatown
There may be some mischief afoot, but I think erratic or falling stock markets will help McCain. Pro-choice but moderate-to-conservative Dems, Reps, and Independents may fear that Obama’s plans to expand the government would sink the markets for a much longer time than McCain's policies would. Pro-choice voters who make 100-300k may realize that Obama will confiscate more of their income than McCain AND will hurt business, therefore, the stock market, generally. This combo will really slam the upper-middle class. I think many people who would have voted for Hillary Clinton know that Obama is much more liberal than HRC and is beholden to groups who make either very little money or enormous sums of money. For example, with Obama as President, a dentist who is married with kids and living in suburban New Jersey will net less than many government and union workers without graduate degrees. I just don't envision people like this pulling the lever for Obama on Election Day, regardless of what they tell pollsters.
34 posted on 10/22/2008 12:51:33 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: tatown

Buying time!


35 posted on 10/22/2008 12:52:41 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: TexasNative2000
We have much bigger problems than who will be the next puppet president. Did your credit card balance change just because of one person in the presidency? Heck no. We are buried in debt with neither of these two idiots running & the many socialist knowing or willing to make the correct moves. I see a stock market around 6000 & just possibly lower within 6 months. (BTW I made a bet with my good friend who said that the market would be up 10% this yr. I told him to double the bet & I'll take the market below 10,000.)
36 posted on 10/22/2008 12:54:27 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: lonestar67
Bingo. The media, moneychangers and market manipulators are going all out to ensure that America votes for our own version of Robert Mugabe on election day.

Not content with merely "talking down" the economy to help our National Socialist Party (as the media does every 4 years), this time they are pulling out all the stops.

The daily crash & burn we are seeing in the market has absolutely nothing to do with "people", i.e. small investors, selling in panic. It has everything to do with the big Wall Street firms, foreign investors, etc. manipulating the market for their own gain and for America's demise.

Barack Hussein O'Bongo is just the puppet, much like FDR (our last National Socialist president) - look for who pulls the strings.

37 posted on 10/22/2008 12:55:52 PM PDT by PermaRag
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To: tatown

I actually also have a counter- conspiracy theory which is that Bush and others realized that the best way for the US to get back at its enemies was to trash the American economy.

As bad as it sounds, it would have as a side effect the suppression of oil and gas prices. It would devastate high income earners first and American would recover faster and better than all foreign economies.

Low oil prices devastate Russian, Iran and many other evil governments. Slow US economy ravages the Chinese economy.

Sometimes giving people what they want is the perfect medicine. I also count this as a possibility. I think investors have been trying to crush the US economy for about 6 months. I think the Russian invasion of Georgia was part of the global concert. Russia hoped it would jack up oil prices.

Low gas prices are one nice positive side effect of this whole affair.


38 posted on 10/22/2008 12:56:10 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: goodnesswins

Or perhaps the double whammy of the WSJ and Rush confiding a conversation with a business friend who said his board has asked him to plan for implementation of big lay offs. The same person said his bank wouldn’t loan him money because they thought his sales would decline 20% with an Obama Presidency.

Business is apparently extremely afraid of an Obama economy destroying tax cut and other crippling regulation

One wonders if Barney Frank is piling on to scare people out of an Obama win that he sees as a negative for his party


39 posted on 10/22/2008 12:56:30 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ferengi?.....Probably not, but he sure has the lobes)
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To: indylindy

My Vanguard 501k quarterly earnings statement (all stocks) arrived yesterday.
I was expecting bad news but came out ahead, just not as much as usual.


40 posted on 10/22/2008 12:58:17 PM PDT by tumblindice (ooga chacka ooga ooga ooga chaka..........)
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To: tatown

The little gamblers on Wall Street seem a bit agitatited.

If they think things are bad now, they should consider what will happen if Obama wins the election - AND CUT OUT THE CRAP with this stuff!!!!


41 posted on 10/22/2008 12:58:41 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: lonestar67

Another benefit of trashing the US economy is that it actually does attract foreign capital as other investment economies suffer more than ours. That leads to a capital flight toward America because we remain the most stable alternative.

Other economies cannot survive a weak US economy.


42 posted on 10/22/2008 12:58:45 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: tatown

My financial advisor said he expects the Dow to bottom out at 7500+/-. Of course, what does he know?!


43 posted on 10/22/2008 12:58:46 PM PDT by albie
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To: saganite

What the hell did they think the damn earnings reports were gonna say?


44 posted on 10/22/2008 1:02:38 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (You MUST see this website: http://www.neverfindout.org/)
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To: tatown

Why invest if Obama is going to take your fains ans “spread” them around?


45 posted on 10/22/2008 1:03:34 PM PDT by olrtex
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To: tatown

Relax.........500 is the new 100......:-)


46 posted on 10/22/2008 1:04:23 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: bert

Well...I heard Rush say that today, also....YESTERDAY, I went shopping.....at COSTCO....staples kind of stuff....figuring if there’s an Obama Pres....costs will go up....and even if there is NOT....costs are going to go up (INFLATION) because of how the Democrats have SCREWED us with this financial coup.


47 posted on 10/22/2008 1:06:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: tumblindice
My Vanguard 501k quarterly earnings statement (all stocks) arrived yesterday. I was expecting bad news but came out ahead,

The average stock is down 30 percent over the last quarter, and you're ahead?! What are you invested in?
48 posted on 10/22/2008 1:08:54 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: tatown

I’ve been out of the market for awhile. My brother is a banker and he’s been telling me the credit crash was coming for more than a year. When the DOW dropped below 9000, I put a portion back in. If it goes below 7000, I’m buying more.

I won’t go all in until I see who’s the next president.

This market is going to be a huge gift for somebody.


49 posted on 10/22/2008 1:11:01 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: irishjuggler

I really can’t remember. I was with Fidelity and when we switched to Vanguard a couple years ago I used my wife’s method of picking horses: I chose some at random that looked good.
`Drunks and fools’, huh?


50 posted on 10/22/2008 1:24:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (lawrence's rocking horse winner)
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