Posted on 10/21/2008 8:36:06 AM PDT by jessduntno
With Barack Obama about to head into the general election, he’ll need to re-introduce himself to the American people. Many folks just don’t know that much about him. One thing we do know is that Obama is a Christian, not a Muslim. He talks about his Christian faith quite a bit but because of some of his liberal positions (read: abortion, civil unions) he’s going to need to really work hard to convince religious moderates and religious conservatives that they have common ground.
In 2004, he gave an interview to Cathleen Falsani who was the religion reporter at the Chicago Sun-Times. I must say the whole interview is remarkable. Below are some parts of it where Obama talks about Jesus, heaven and sin. The whole interview can be read here.
(GG is God Girl aka Cathleen Falsani) GG: Who’s Jesus to you?
OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbn.com ...
I like that FR’s spellcheck dictionary still has not added Obama or Biden.
Pastor Wright, the man that Obama says brought him to Christ, is a former muslim.
I don’t recall ever hearing Pastor Wright make a public statement about why he left Islam and became a preaching Christian. What was the transitional point in his life?
And, I would agree with you.
Huh?
Obama might consider himself a Christian, but I don't see the fruit of that.
Obama thinks abortion is okay, but God said "thou shalt not kill".
Obama thinks you should 'spread the wealth', but God said "thou shalt not steal".
Obama thinks homosexual marriage should be legalized, but God said that same gender sex is an abomination.
I'm quite sure Obama is a religious man, but I have serious doubts that the Lord is his God.
If you can not accept the divinity of Christ, you are not a Christian. My only thought: What kind of man would profess himself a Christian only to deny the divinity of Christ?
There is also this exchange:
“GG: Do you believe in sin?
OBAMA: Yes.
GG: What is sin?
OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.
GG: What happens if you have sin in your life?
OBAMA: I think it’s the same thing as the question about heaven. In the same way that if I’m true to myself and my faith that that is its own reward, when I’m not true to it, it’s its own punishment.”
Obama doesn't need the divinity of Christ because Obama is his own Messiah. When he sins, he doesn't sin against God, he sins against himself!
Whatever else he is, or might be, this man, at the very least, is a truly frightening megalomaniac.
[artificial intelligence or a ‘ghost in the machine’?]....:))
“GG:
Have you always been a Christian?
OBAMA:
I was raised more by my mother and my mother was Christian.”
Here, he simply does NOT answer the question.
Sorry. That should obviously be "divinity of Christ."
Let me be on record as denying the divinity of Chris.
“I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you know me, you will know my Father also.” ( John 14:6-7)
“GG:
Do you still attend Trinity?
OBAMA:
Yep. Every week. 11 oclock service.
Ever been there? Good service.”
So much for his, “I wasn’t there” defense on Wright.
This is the interview with the quote about “confused Americans” who watch Fox, and listen to Talk Radio, also. Seems that kind of behavior is “dangerous” in Obama’s view... Long interview, but worth every minute.
Obama is no more a Christian than my cats.
Dobson: Obama Distorting the Bible
By Robin Mazyck
CBNNews.com
June 24, 2008
“Jesus is a historical figure for me....” is this it or am I not understanding something?
Right here: "Obama Talks". It's implicit.
GG: What is sin?
OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.
I guess that is the appropriate answer for THE MESSIAH to give.
GG: What is sin?
OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.
I got it! So since he doesn’t believe sin is being out of alignment with GOD’s values, then abortion, homosexuality, gay marriage, etc. is okay. I am now convinced he is a Christian.
Muslims say he is a Muslim, and he said if things get nasty he will side with the Muslims.
Religion
A “friend” from high school has said that Dunham “touted herself as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue.”[6]The first mention I find of religion in this lengthy Time Magazine article is on page 4Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked if her mother was an atheist, said, “I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books — the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching — and wanted us to recognise that everyone has something beautiful to contribute.”[19] “Jesus, she felt, was a wonderful example. But she felt that a lot of Christians behaved in un-Christian ways.”[20]
In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote, “My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess... In a land [Indonesia] where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hardship... she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism.”[21] In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, “I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known.”[22] Religion for her was “just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives,” Obama wrote.[20] In 2007 Obama described his mother as “a Christian from Kansas.” “I was raised by my mother,” he continued. “So, I’ve always been a Christian.”[23][24] Also in 2007, he said in a speech, “My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew. But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution.”[1]
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-4,00.html
“Ann took a job teaching English at the U.S. embassy. She woke up well before dawn throughout her life. Now she went into her son's room every day at 4 a.m. to give him English lessons from a U.S. correspondence course. She couldn't afford the élite international school and worried he wasn't challenged enough. After two years at the Catholic school, Obama moved to a state-run elementary school closer to the new house. He was the only foreigner, says Ati Kisjanto, a classmate, but he spoke some Indonesian and made new friends.”
So he went to a Catholic school briefly because she thought it might be a better school.
On page 5 of the article, there is this:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-5,00.html
“Indonesia has the world's largest Muslim population, but Obama’s household was not religious. ‘My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew,’ Obama said in a 2007 speech. ‘But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution. And as a consequence, so did I.’”
What is a “healthy skepticism of religion as an institution” for a devout Christian?
Not a prob. lol
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