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'Joe the Plumber' Owes $1,200 in Back Taxes
FoxNews ^ | 10/16/2008

Posted on 10/16/2008 10:04:13 PM PDT by Oyarsa

HOLLAND, Ohio -- Joe the Plumber's story sprang a few leaks Thursday. Turns out that the man who was held up by John McCain as the typical, hard-working American taxpayer isn't really a licensed plumber. And court documents show he owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes.

"Joe," whose name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, was cited repeatedly in Wednesday night's final presidential debate by McCain for questioning Barack Obama's tax policy.

Wurzelbacher instantly became a media celebrity, fielding calls during the debate and facing reporters outside his home near Toledo on Thursday morning for an impromptu nationally televised news conference.The burly, bald man acknowledged he doesn't have a plumber's license, but said he didn't need one because he works for someone else at a company that does residential work.

But Wurzelbacher still would need to be a licensed apprentice or journeyman to work in Toledo, and he's not, said David Golis, manager and residential building official for the Toledo Division of Building Inspection.

State and local records show Wurzelbacher has no license, although his employer does. Golis said there are no records of inspectors citing Wurzelbacher for unlicensed work in Toledo. And then there was the matter of his taxes.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; achillwind; demsmearmachine; enemedia; joetheplumber; license; partisanwitchhunt; politicalpurge; taxes; wurzelbacher
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1 posted on 10/16/2008 10:04:13 PM PDT by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

Wow, poor guy can’t make ends meet now, and Obama wants to tax him further.


2 posted on 10/16/2008 10:06:07 PM PDT by Carling (Obama: He Hates Plumbers)
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To: Oyarsa
Yeah because he doesn't pay as much as Obama wants. Which is MORE! And in a country founded on an aversion to taxes, I don't see why they make a big deal out of it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 10/16/2008 10:06:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oyarsa

$1,200 in back taxes?

Hell, that ain’t nothing.


4 posted on 10/16/2008 10:06:13 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (Haider was drunk, How does that fit with your stupid conspiracy?)
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To: Oyarsa

Every single American should be mortified at this...You ask a politician a question, and your life and livelihood are in danger. I cannot believe people don’t see this.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 10:06:19 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Oyarsa

So what?


6 posted on 10/16/2008 10:06:51 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Oyarsa

What’s up with the media curiosity about JTP? All he did was ask Zero a question. Zero is the one who stuck his own foot into his own mouth. Now the media is out to destroy a bystander regular American. Why do you suppose the media won’t ask Zero what he meant by spreading the wealth?


7 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:07 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Oyarsa

Poor Joe...this is making me very upset. They are trying to ruin his life.


8 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:08 PM PDT by RaiderRose (the ACORN doesn't fall far from the tree)
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To: Oyarsa

I wonder, is it time to widely distribute the personal information of some of these “on-air personalities?”


9 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:30 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: Oyarsa
So, he's already over taxed and spoke from abject experience.

The left, the MSM, the DNC, and Obama are going to go after this guy with a vengence. God hold him in the cusp of your Hand adn protect Him from the foul winds that will blow.

Despite it all, and still, it is very apparent that Joe the Plumber was the real winner of the 3rd presidential debate and he continues to win it and hammer the liberal, socialist, dems today.

By extensions, McCain and all Americans are winners.

But, because Joe the Plumber was honest about the impact of the Obama plans from his perspective, and because he did not drink the Obama kool-aid, the MSM, the DNC, and the Obama campaign now consider that hard working, well spoken, young man as the enemy.

They are already beginning to attack him relentlessly.

So be it, it will reflect badly back on them just as their attacks on Sarah have done.

Just as Patrick Henry indicated, and that truth still holds today...if we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.

Sarah Palin is one such friend...now, out of obscurity, Joe the Plumber is another.

All thanks for this goes, IMHO, to a merciful God in Heaven! and millions of hard working, partiotic, loyal Americans who will not give up...two of which, Joe and Sarah, have been brought forth before us all to express these sentiments.

The truth is that the left, the Obama campaign, the DNC, and the MSM will lie, fabricate, misquote, commit fruad, beg, borrow, or steal in their effort to slow down what is happening on the ground with the McCain campaign right now, and particularly with the likes of Joe and especially Sarah Palin who is burrowing underneath all of their hype and drawing 25-30,000 people at a time to her rallies and getting the message of hope and conservative values out.

Obama and his ilk know it, they fear it, and they will do anything they can to stop it...but they shall also fail in the attempt. Truth has a way of shining all the brighter in darkness.









SARAH PALIN DRAWING HUGE CROWDS ALL ACROSS AMERICA

10 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:35 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Oyarsa

the democrat party owes america $700 billion.


11 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:54 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Natchez Hawk

Thats what Charles Rangel said!


12 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:54 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: Hildy

and FauxNEWS is playing right along


13 posted on 10/16/2008 10:07:57 PM PDT by TV Dinners (....there's nothing else to eat)
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To: Oyarsa

The left is creepy. They will destroy us mere commoners for putting into doubt their Caesar.


14 posted on 10/16/2008 10:08:16 PM PDT by SolidWood
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To: Oyarsa

Poor Joe is gonna need a lawyer and a body guard and maybe some good health insurance before the Obozo thugocracy gets done with him.


15 posted on 10/16/2008 10:08:33 PM PDT by webschooner (Welcome to the wonderful world of Socialism -- kindly check your money and possessions at the door.)
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To: Oyarsa

MSM...you fools.....like everyone just LOVES the IRS!!!


16 posted on 10/16/2008 10:08:38 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: Natchez Hawk

How much does Charlie Rangel owe?


17 posted on 10/16/2008 10:08:39 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I voted the girl and I liked it!)
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To: Oyarsa

I’m angered to my core!!!!

FOX can kiss my viewership goodbye.

I am fuming mad!


18 posted on 10/16/2008 10:08:59 PM PDT by babydubya1981 (Homeschooling Moms for McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Hildy

“Every single American should be mortified at this...You ask a politician a question, and your life and livelihood are in danger. I cannot believe people don’t see this.”

He hasn’t seen the worst of it yet.

He dared to do interviews - to do a presser.

This is just the beginning.


19 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:06 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: TV Dinners

Looks like they looked more into Joe’s life in 48 hours than they have Obama’s for the last 2 years.


20 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:06 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Natchez Hawk
Well, I sent him $20 to use for his business start-up funding.

You can find his address here

21 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:09 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: Oyarsa
The truth about Joe the Plumber.

The MSM loses its mind over undocumented plumbers(MSM Lies Joe's boss does have license)

22 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (In VP's, McCain picked the future, Obama chose the past.)
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To: Oyarsa

Who gives a crap? Obama was tongue tied. He’s a near Communist if not an actual Communist. That’s the real story.


23 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:46 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: Oyarsa

McCain needs to publicly call on bomber for a “time out” against hardworking Americans, show the petty government bureaucrats for what they are.


24 posted on 10/16/2008 10:09:51 PM PDT by gotribe (obama just sucks)
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To: Hildy

Excellent point....ever one should see that.


25 posted on 10/16/2008 10:10:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Scotswife

“....the democrat party owes america $700 billion.”

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Oh my, much, much more than that.

Let’s start with the “popular” yet miserably failed War on Poverty ushered in by LBJ’s Great Society disaster.


26 posted on 10/16/2008 10:11:47 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Obama will deliver America on a Leash to an envious world.)
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To: Oyarsa

The good hearted compassionate democrats - going out to destroy another working guy who dares to speak his mind and differ with the Messiah.


27 posted on 10/16/2008 10:11:47 PM PDT by Baynative (www.motorlinellc.com)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I think it boils down to the idea that not only is it our patriotic duty to pay more in taxes...if we don’t or don’t pay on time, we will be destroyed.


28 posted on 10/16/2008 10:11:47 PM PDT by TNdandelion (I voted the girl and I liked it!)
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To: Oyarsa

I imagine the Obamanoids from FOX news will be checking to see if any of Joe’s kids have Down’s Syndrome or are pregnant. Joe must have abused something. He’s a plumber! Go get ‘em FOX! Gotta get Obamacorn in that Oval Orifice! Maggots.


29 posted on 10/16/2008 10:11:49 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Barack HUSSEIN Obama is an effeminate whiner and crybaby. Not presidential material.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

If Joe would give us the OK we could just pay it off online. https://www.tax.state.oh.us/PROD/IFileRegWeb/taxpayer/gotoRegistration.do


30 posted on 10/16/2008 10:12:40 PM PDT by steve0
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To: Oyarsa

Remember the guy who dared to ask Slick, “name one country that has taxed itself to prospertiy.” That guy was audited by the IRS and smeared too.


31 posted on 10/16/2008 10:12:43 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: RobinOfKingston

Yes, it is time. Let it all hang out.


32 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:12 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Oyarsa

So his taxes are too high. Just like he was trying to tell Obama.


33 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:27 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (The Media investigated Joe The Plumber more thoroughly than they investigated Barack Obama)
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To: Natchez Hawk

I saw him in an interview.

He sounds like one of us.

Maybe he’s making a statement on taxation without representation.

I’m sure many of us feel the same way.

Just sayin.


34 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:27 PM PDT by Califreak (As seen on TV: S.A.R.A.H!-Sane Americans Are Against Hussein-Obama!)
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To: Oyarsa

Amazing... the msm is attacking an average citizen as if he had just been chosen to run as a Republican for Vice President. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.


35 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:30 PM PDT by rhinohunter
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To: EyeGuy

oh my - you do hold a grudge don’t you ? :)


36 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:49 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: babydubya1981

Carry your rant one-step further … email Fox news with your displeasure.


37 posted on 10/16/2008 10:13:50 PM PDT by doc1019 (Obama IS running against Palin)
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To: RaiderRose

>> Poor Joe...this is making me very upset. They are trying to ruin his life.

He’ll be ok. Plumber’s deal with crap all the time. He needs to address his business liabilities and take advantage of the publicity.

The assault against Joe will prove to be self-inflicting.


38 posted on 10/16/2008 10:14:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Oyarsa

Wow. The RATS have a tax evader writing tax law and heading the House committee that deals with such, and they don’t ridicule him on the nightly news!!!!!!!!! And they knowingly aid and abet a criminal hiding $100,000 in CASH bribe money in his congressional office and scream about law enforcement daring to enter their sacred buildings to expose the criminal from Louisiana. And then they ridicule an average American on national tv because that average Joe dared to ask That One a question about his Marxist tax plans.

These people are . . . despicable!


39 posted on 10/16/2008 10:14:23 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Oyarsa
"Joe the Plumber's story sprang a few leaks Thursday. Turns out that the man who was held up by John McCain as the typical, hard-working American taxpayer isn't really a licensed plumber. And court documents show he owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes."

Hell. I'd do it if I thought I could pull it off. Any time you can avoid paying a thief you take the opportunity.

40 posted on 10/16/2008 10:14:28 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Oyarsa

This filth was from Fox?

They actually state his name isn’t “Joe” it’s “Sam J.” - rather than identify the “J” as being for Joe???

And they actually wrote that it was Joe’s questioning and not Obama’s marxist answers that were made an issue by McCain???

I puke on these scumballs. Obama took Joe at face value and spouted marxist pap, Joe’s life history is not even remotely relevant to what happened.


41 posted on 10/16/2008 10:14:49 PM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: Carling
"Wow, poor guy can’t make ends meet now, and Obama wants to tax him further."

I hear ya, Carling. Fer cryin' out loud, hard-working Americans just can win for losing sometimes. That damn Bambi.

42 posted on 10/16/2008 10:15:12 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: RichardW
Who gives a crap? Obama was tongue tied. He’s a near Communist if not an actual Communist. That’s the real story.

Which is why all of this obfuscation is going on, trying to make Joe the story. The media, including FOX, are for Obama (the nitwit roundup after the debate made that clear). They should be focusing on the question and the answer and not the personalities involved...whatever Joe's personal story is doesn't invalidate his issues with Obama's "tax plan".

This angers me to no end. A regular Joe asks an honest question of a political candidate and has his life ripped apart? That is wrong on every damn level and I hope it backfires on the Golden Child come November 4th.
43 posted on 10/16/2008 10:15:48 PM PDT by LostInBayport (John McCain is the Luckiest Man Alive...mere mortals such as we can only wonder why...)
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To: Oyarsa

I’ve got a few free days to look up some people who may be behind on taxes.


44 posted on 10/16/2008 10:16:26 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: Williams

I bump your every word, Williams.


45 posted on 10/16/2008 10:16:39 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: petitfour
"These people are . . . despicable!"

They are far worse than that.

46 posted on 10/16/2008 10:17:11 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Hildy

I’ve been thinking that too. Poor guy only asked a question, and the media is out to decimate him! The MSM is made up of evil, vicious people!


47 posted on 10/16/2008 10:17:56 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: Williams

I think I’ll email Fox news....and suggest they see if they can get a few details on Obama....like his class work in college, the last time he had dinner with Ayers, etc....


48 posted on 10/16/2008 10:19:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: petitfour

You are right. This poor guy is slow in paying his taxes. Charlie Rangel the guy who helps write the tax laws failed to report income for over 10 years. The hypocrisy of the left is maddening. They can only get away with it because a large number of Americans no longer have a moral compass or a functioning brain.


49 posted on 10/16/2008 10:19:55 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts soooo good!)
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To: LostInBayport
"This angers me to no end. A regular Joe asks an honest question of a political candidate and has his life ripped apart?"

And that should tell you somthing. Freedom of speech as long as you don't say too much.

50 posted on 10/16/2008 10:20:04 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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