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Radford, groups clash over voter registration [ACLU illegally Pressuring Registrars in Virginia]
newrivervalley.com ^ | 10/1/08 | Tim Thornton

Posted on 10/14/2008 12:40:37 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

Radford, groups clash over voter registration A student protest has been called off, but the voting rights controversy behind it continues.

Tracy Howard, Radford's registrar, is paying special attention to voter registration applications that cite a Radford University dorm room as a potential voter's address, but a student organization and the ACLU of Virginia say that's illegal.

Howard says he's following Virginia law the same way he has for 16 years.

"If they give me only a dorm address," he said, "they will be sent something called a pending denial. It says that you need to have a street address, permanent address, in order to register to vote."

Kent Willis, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Virginia, said, "This can only be construed as an attempt to dissuade students from registering to vote in Radford or a ploy to trick them into providing contradictory information that could stall the registration process past the deadline."

Virginia registrars rarely have problems with students registering to vote, Willis said.

"When they care is when students are geared up to register in large numbers," he said. "Suddenly, that upsets the whole local power structure."

Across the country, new voters, particularly young voters, are registering in record numbers, most of them to cast ballots in the presidential race.

Howard says student registration drives are an issue. Groups conducting these drives "have at best simply misinformed on-campus individuals and at worst lied to them" about registration rules, he wrote in his response to the ACLU. They are also holding applications longer than they're supposed to and flooding Howard's office with them.

In a letter to Howard on Monday, Rebecca Glenberg, the ACLU's legal director, cited a string of court decisions that say students can't be treated differently from other people attempting to register to vote.

"Every individual citizen has the right to vote," Howard responded. "No individual has the right to register to vote in a community based upon convenience, false information or lies."

The RU Fair Voter Registration Alliance formed Sept. 15 after student Nikki Rampino registered using her dorm address and received a pending denial notice. After Rampino went to Howard's office and complained, her application was approved. She got her voter identification card Monday.

"I spend most of my time here, so I want to vote here," Rampino said. "I plan on staying in the area after I graduate. I'm working in the school system right now in Montgomery County as a student teacher."

Howard said those are the kinds of ties to the community that makes an address a domicile -- part of the definition of residence he says is required for voter registration.

In Virginia, voters can register only where they have both "a place of abode" and "domicile." A place of abode is simply where a person stays. Domicile means living in a particular locality with an intent to remain there for an unlimited time.

What that means is open to interpretation. In a Virginia Supreme Court case, a man who owned a house in Fairfax County, had his cars registered in Fairfax County and paid his property taxes in Fairfax County was stricken from the county's voter rolls because he had a series of one-year contracts to work in Washington County, where he rented a house.

Howard said people who own a home in Radford but winter in Florida could choose to register in Radford, because that's where their ties are. A person who owns a home in Radford but lives year-round in a nursing home in another locality could still register to vote in Radford, he said.

Yet, he also said, "The law doesn't state anywhere that 'domicile' is a matter of your convenience."

The Virginia State Board of Elections is no more consistent. At one point, its Web site quotes an attorney general's opinion: "A person's domicile is essentially a matter of subjective intent known only to that person." At another, it says, "The burden of proving domicile rests with the person asserting it."

"It's murky," said Susan Lee, the State Board of Elections' manager of election uniformity. "It's murky."

The one thing the students, Howard and the ACLU seem to agree on is that the murkiness needs to be legislated away.

Clarissa Clarke, founder of the Fair Voter Registration Alliance, said she is convinced Howard means to suppress the student vote in Radford. But she's willing to let the ACLU handle the immediate issue so she can work with Howard on the larger goal of getting the law fixed.

Clarke, who abandoned plans to protest at Howard's office today, said she wants to have a demonstration in Richmond after the election to encourage legislators to change the law. She wants Howard to join in the demonstration and the lobbying that will follow.

Howard said he's willing to work through local legislators, but "as far as carrying a picket sign, I don't know about that."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: aclu; democrats; electionfraud; obama; va2008; voterfraud; voterregistration; weekregistrars

1 posted on 10/14/2008 12:40:38 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Obama and his radical friends at ACORN and the DNC (abetted by the MSM) intend to steal this election if they cannot win it...and they are afraid that they certainly will not win it.

JOIN THOSE INVOKING GOD'S BLESSINGS ON OUR NATION THIS 2008 ELECTION

I'm not buyin' the push polls, which are heavily weighted in their sampling to the dems...and neither should anyone else. They are simply an attempt for the most part, IMHO, to supress the GOP vote.

On the ground, the crowds that Sarah is drawing now (30,000 in FL, 24,000 coming in Indiana, etc.), tell the real stroy...and the DNC, MSM, and Obama's campaign know it.

SARAH PALIN DRAWING HUGE CROWDS ALL ACROSS AMERICA

...and then there is this:

2008 MCCAIN-OBAMA ISSUE COMPARISON CHART

2 posted on 10/14/2008 12:41:59 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

The little twerps can remiain registered at their address of record, and use mail-in absentee ballots. A dorm room isn’t a permanent address.


3 posted on 10/14/2008 12:44:27 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
Here's the way I would handle it. Go ahead and register them. Let them vote on election day. Match registrations with their last known home address before they went to school and see if they also voted back home (either in person or with an absentee ballot).

I'm sure several people could be found who voted more than once.

Then prosecute them to the maximum extent allowed by law.

Word would get around.

4 posted on 10/14/2008 12:51:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArrogantBustard

I agree.


5 posted on 10/14/2008 12:53:37 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: AppyPappy

The fraud battle comes to SW VA. I’m sure Blacksburg will be ‘busy’ too...


6 posted on 10/14/2008 12:57:08 PM PDT by KoRn (Barack Obama Must Be Stopped!!!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

That is what I was thinking too. Absentee.


7 posted on 10/14/2008 12:59:18 PM PDT by EBH ( Welcome to the United Socialist States of America. Oct. 1, 2008)
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To: KoRn

they are, there was another thread a couple of days ago about the Montgomery county Registrar doing the same thing. A dorm room is not a permanent address and doesn’t count, but it looks like there are a few exceptions.


8 posted on 10/14/2008 1:39:31 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Radford is the “fall back” four-year school here in VA. You don’t find the brightest bulbs over there. ACORN and the ACLU are clever to choose that school in which to play their silly games.


9 posted on 10/14/2008 8:29:33 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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