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Trouble in Paradise: Venezuelan oil production slumps under socialist Chavez
The Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jeremy McDermott

Posted on 10/13/2008 1:08:12 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

To win allies and forge an anti-American front, Mr Chavez sells oil to friendly countries at low prices. Ironically, the only big customer buying Venezuelan oil at the full market price is the United States, which the president routinely denounces as the "Empire".

"As production falls, the sales to the US become more important," said Pietro Donatello, an oil analyst from Latin Petroleum in the capital, Caracas. "Only the US is paying the full amount for Venezuelan oil and in cash, the rest are in some kind of barter agreements."

The state oil company, PDVSA, produced 3.2 million barrels per day in 1998, the year before Mr Chavez won the presidency. After a decade of rising corruption and inefficiency, daily output has now fallen to 2.4 million barrels, according to OPEC figures. About half of this oil is now delivered at a discount to Mr Chavez's friends around Latin America. The 18 nations in his "Petrocaribe" club, founded in 2005, pay Venezuela only 30 per cent of the market price within 90 days, with rest in instalments spread over 25 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; hugochavez; latinamerica; oil; venezuela
Nationalizing PDVSA sealed its fate as a going concern. Communist thugs like Chavez booted the western oil companies and engineers, and has plowed the oil revenues into social welfare programs instead increasing production and finding new reserves.
1 posted on 10/13/2008 1:08:13 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This truly brightens my day (along with the soaring DOW)


2 posted on 10/13/2008 1:12:29 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: stanz

Yep, Chavez going downhill and the DOW up 10% today.


3 posted on 10/13/2008 1:14:07 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Ironically, the only big customer buying Venezuelan oil at the full market price is the United States,

Why are we doing this?

4 posted on 10/13/2008 1:14:12 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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This goes against every free-market conservative bone in my body, but I kinda want the government to seize all the assets of Citgo (owned by Venezuela) and have an auction where they are sold off to American (or other friendlies) investors. We could REALLY screw Chavez that way.


5 posted on 10/13/2008 1:16:23 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Tribune7
Why are we doing this?

Because the closest refineries that can deal with his crappy high sulfur crude are located here.

L

6 posted on 10/13/2008 1:17:56 PM PDT by Lurker (She's not a lesbian, she doesn't whine, she doesn't hate her country, and she's not afraid of guns.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

“Nationalizing PDVSA sealed its fate as a going concern. Communist thugs like Chavez booted the western oil companies and engineers, and has plowed the oil revenues into social welfare programs instead increasing production and finding new reserves.”

No matter what Chavez does, the oil will always be there. I suggest we also barter for his oil. Let’s send him some subprime mortgages and credit default swaps. Those seem to be our leading exports.


7 posted on 10/13/2008 1:18:43 PM PDT by henkster ($700 billion debt swap with foreign banks to finance government borrowing)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

When do the Chavez thugs start executing people for “hoarding” when they don’t produce as much as they did before incentives were removed?


8 posted on 10/13/2008 1:20:09 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Parley Baer

Yep, Chavez going downhill and the DOW up 10% today.”

Chavez seems to be taking his cues from Mugambe...


9 posted on 10/13/2008 1:21:31 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: henkster

No matter what Chavez does, the oil will always be there. I suggest we also barter for his oil. Let’s send him some subprime mortgages and credit default swaps. Those seem to be our leading exports.’
I nomivate that we also send him the 44,000 sex offenders that were living in NO when Katrina hit....10% of NO population.....
oh, wait...no one knows where they are now, because these felons have NOT reported their new addresses.....so sad.


10 posted on 10/13/2008 1:23:36 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Supposedly Chavez gives away a lot of the oil and we pay for it. I did not read this story but read it or another one today. It said if oil goes below $80 a barrel then he and Venez are in big trouble. The country could go technically bankrupt like Cuba, Zimbabwe, Detroit, CallieForneeha.


11 posted on 10/13/2008 1:24:47 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: St. Louis Conservative

That would excite every third world country in the world. The interesting point is that a pipeline is currently being built from Canada to supply oil from the oil sands to Gulf Coast refineries. Guess who won’t be selling as much oil to the US? Chavez is screwed. He just doesn’t know it yet.

Venezuelan wells haven’t been maintained so production is dropping anyway. With the Iranian oil minister squealing like a pig over falling oil prices, Venezuela will have to compete with their buddies Iran and Russia for what’s left. It’s more complicated than that. But you get the point.


12 posted on 10/13/2008 1:40:01 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Socialism doesn’t work.

Imagine that.


13 posted on 10/13/2008 1:41:02 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swiftboating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

The mighty leader will simply force the oil industry to produce more. There is no problem here. Move along you sulfer stinking devils!


14 posted on 10/13/2008 1:42:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Tribune7
Why are we doing this? Aside from the regular reiteration of oil as a commodity, it isn't that we're buying oil for more, it's that Chavez is selling oil to others at a discount, and at great expense to himself and the people of his country, not just because of the discount, but because of the logistics of moving oil directly to the customer instead of to the market.

And, it's probably a good idea to remember that there is only one American oil company left among what Obamatons call "Big Oil." That's ExxonMobil, of course. Citgo is owned outright by Chavez and his government. Keep that in mind when you are looking for that extra two cents off per gallon in the drop underway. Don't buy oil from Citgo.

15 posted on 10/13/2008 2:05:09 PM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Best side effect of dropping oil prices is what it does to thugs like Chavez.


16 posted on 10/13/2008 2:16:03 PM PDT by yazoo
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To: meatloaf
Venezuelan wells haven’t been maintained so production is dropping anyway.

And a lot of Venezuela' oil is very low API gravity stuff that's difficult to pipeline and difficult to process.

17 posted on 10/13/2008 2:16:35 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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