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The Man Behind the Whispers About Obama (Free Republic mentioned)
International Herald Tribune ^ | Monday, October 13, 2008 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:33 PM PDT by kristinn

The most persistent falsehood about Senator Barack Obama's background first hit in 2004 just two weeks after the Democratic convention speech that arguably set him on the path to his presidential candidacy: "Obama is a Muslim who has concealed his religion."

That statement was contained in a press release and it spun a complex tale about the alleged ancestry of Obama, who is Christian.

The press release was picked up by the conservative FreeRepublic.com Web site and spread virally and steadily as others elaborated on its claims over the years in e-mail messages, Web sites and, ultimately, books. It continues to be an engine that drives other false rumors about Obama's background to this day, with one finding national, public voice on Friday, when a woman told Senator John McCain at a town-hall-style meeting, "I have read about him," and "he's an Arab." McCain corrected her.

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But an appearance in a documentary-style program on the Fox News Channel watched by three million people last week thrust the man, Andy Martin, and his past into the foreground.

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Theories about Obama's background have taken on a life of their own. But every independent analyst seeking the origins of the cyberspace attack winds up back at Martin's first press release, posted on the Free Republic Web site in August 2004.

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"Martin gets credit for the idea of, call it 'the sound bite narrative mien,"' said Danielle Allen, a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton University who has investigated the e-mail campaign's circulation and origins. "What he's generating gets picked up in other places, and it's an example of how the Internet has given power to sources we would have never taken seriously at another point in time."

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


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I chopped the article up to highlight the FR mentions and the reappearance of Obama campaign worker Danielle Allen. Remember she was the source for The Washington Post hit piece on Freepers several months back.

Click the source link to read about Andy Martin's very serious anti-Jewish statements and his other behavioral issues.

1 posted on 10/12/2008 8:21:33 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

My MIL insists Hussein is a Muslim.Wonder where she got that idea?All she does now is hang out at the Seniors Center and such.And I’ve never mentioned it.

Will have to ask her now.


2 posted on 10/12/2008 8:28:20 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Should have seen it in color.)
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To: kristinn
Obama, who is Christian.

Why is it bad for actual Christians to be Christian, but when Obama, who although he may not actually be Muslim, definitely has Muslim tendencies, or is at least Muslim curious, claims to be Christian, it is all streamers and confetti?

3 posted on 10/12/2008 8:28:37 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (Is it too early to open a female wing on Mt. Rushmore?)
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To: kristinn

“At that time, Barry was also praying in a Catholic way, but Barry was Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim because his father was Muslim.” Barry’s first-grade teacher Israella Dharmawan told the San Francisco Times

“Barry was a Muslim. He went to the mosque,” boyhood buddy Zulfin Adi told the Times.

“My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim,” half sister Maya told another reporter.

In the third grade, Obama transferred to a public school, where he also registered as a Muslim. Students at the school attended weekly religion lessons about Islam which were taught by Muslims.

In his autobiography, Dreams From My Father, Obama mentioned studying the Quran and describing the public school as “a Muslim school.”

http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan08/obama_lou%20tribe.htm

Osama HUSSEIN Obama is not a naturalized citizen, he is Kenyan-born, adopted by an Indonesian and never renounced his citizenship...even if he was born in Hawaii as he claims (which I don’t believe), he’s at best a DUAL citizen and is thereby disqualified from running for President.

For someone with THAT ONE’s questionable background, shady friends and associates, and his extremely socialist record as a US Senator and almost ZERO experience to be the nominee, I despise the DUmocrat party’s adoption of communism as their ultimate goal and those who’d sit idly by and allow their party to promote such a man as THAT ONE.

The goals of Communism 1963:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2100029/posts

Obama Not Qualified For President

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhuToYz2KMA&NR=1

UPDATE! - Barack Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Confirmed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC54PXA0jG0&feature=related


4 posted on 10/12/2008 8:29:12 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy)
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To: kristinn
call it 'the sound bite narrative mien,"' said Danielle Allen

It's "meme", you moron.

Yay, FR.

5 posted on 10/12/2008 8:31:23 PM PDT by Defiant (With Barney Frank, a reach across the aisle just becomes a reach-around.)
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To: kristinn
Danielle Allen is someone we need to keep our eyes on ~ a very dangerous person in fact.

American can hardly afford to turn her loose in anyplace that's important.

This Martin guy is not important. No one's going to be giving him a top job no matter who wins this election.

6 posted on 10/12/2008 8:31:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kristinn


Hi Danielle ... we've missed you ;o)
7 posted on 10/12/2008 8:31:33 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: RasterMaster


8 posted on 10/12/2008 8:32:34 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy)
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To: kristinn; All
From AsiaTimesOnline, Feb 26, 2008

Barack Obama received at least some instruction in the Islamic faith of his father and went with him to the mosque, but the importance of this experience is vastly overstated by conservative commentators who seek to portray Obama as a Muslim of sorts. Radical anti-Americanism, rather than Islam, was the reigning faith in the Dunham household. ...

Barack Obama is a clever fellow who imbibed hatred of America with his mother's milk, but worked his way up the elite ladder of education and career. He shares the resentment of Muslims against the encroachment of American culture, although not their religion. He has the empathetic skill set of an anthropologist who lives with his subjects, learns their language, and elicits their hopes and fears while remaining at emotional distance. That is, he is the political equivalent of a sociopath. The difference is that he is practicing not on a primitive tribe but on the population of the United States.

There is nothing mysterious about Obama's methods. "A demagogue tries to sound as stupid as his audience so that they will think they are as clever as he is," wrote Karl Krauss. Americans are the world's biggest suckers, and laugh at this weakness in their popular culture. Listening to Obama speak, Sinclair Lewis' cynical tent-revivalist Elmer Gantry comes to mind, or, even better, Tyrone Power's portrayal of a carnival mentalist in the 1947 film noire Nightmare Alley. The latter is available for instant viewing at Netflix, and highly recommended as an antidote to having felt uplifted by an Obama speech. ..."

Article: Obama's women reveal his secret
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/JB26Aa01.html

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From Rules for Radicals, Alinsky outlines his strategy in organizing, writing:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution."[2]

[2] Saul Alinsky, The Latter Rain
http://latter-rain.com/ltrain/alinski.htm

9 posted on 10/12/2008 8:33:30 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: RasterMaster
Folks with "dual citizenship" are simply not disqualified from becoming President.

I have no idea where you guys picked that one up ~ most likely out of ignorance.

Probably half the population has dual citizenship of one kind or the other and doesn't even know it.

No doubt ALL the descendants of the First Families do.

10 posted on 10/12/2008 8:34:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: kristinn; All
"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103946/posts
11 posted on 10/12/2008 8:35:40 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: kristinn
I find obama's "Christian" church more disturbing than the muslim upbringing that he didn't have.
12 posted on 10/12/2008 8:36:13 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: kristinn

on this issue: last I heard converting out of Islam into Christianity is frowned upon...often a death sentence. Barack Hussein Obama was born and raised a Muslim. He speaks publicly about his conversion to Christianity. BUT HE IS NOT AFRAID OF OFFENDING MUSLIMS. Why????? Could it be that they know Jeremiah Wright’s Christianity is a fraud? Could it be that they believe he is still one of them? Look at his support in the Arab world. Why? Cartoonists and authors live in hiding, but Obama is unafraid. Why?


13 posted on 10/12/2008 8:37:24 PM PDT by linton59 (. bitter,typical,gun-toting,Bible thumping)
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To: kristinn; All
Obama on video campaigning for Marxist “cousin” Raila Odinga, Kenya’s “Agent of Change”:
"When Raila Odinga lost the presidential election last week (12/27/2007) to Mwai Kibaki, he claimed the vote was rigged, whereupon his tribal followers went on murderous rampages such as in the town of Eldoret, where on New Years Day dozens of people were burned to death in a church set on fire. Throughout Kenya, hundreds of people have been politically murdered in the last few days."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103801/posts

MUST SEE VIDEO OF OBAMA IN KENYA CAMPAIGNING FOR MARXIST THUG/"COUSIN" RAILA ODINGA!!
8 minute version:
"Barack Obama & Raila Odinga"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ&feature=related

Raila Odinga's official website:
"Your Agent of Change", "Register For Change", "Vote For Change"
http://www.raila07.com/

14 posted on 10/12/2008 8:39:18 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: kristinn

I wouldn’t elect a muslim or anybody that even used to be a muslim President of the United States..


15 posted on 10/12/2008 8:39:39 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: muawiyah

It does disqualify Obama if that “dual citizenship” is for Kenya and Indonesia.


16 posted on 10/12/2008 8:40:29 PM PDT by RasterMaster (CHANGE is not a destination - HOPE is not a strategy)
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To: kristinn

Barack Obama

AP photo of school register reveals “Barry Soetoro” as muslim Indonesian

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm


17 posted on 10/12/2008 8:41:05 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: kristinn

Andy Martin, under his former name Anthony R. Martin-Trigona, was not a credible person to either conservatives or liberals in Chicago. He was a gadfly like Sherman Skolnick, but quite angry.

However, I think that Obama’s muslim past is one of perhaps 16 serious issues of concealment that should have been broadcast to the electorate ad nauseum and should disqualify him before the electorate:

1. He lied about having being raised as a Muslim.
2. He tried to present himself as having been raised in Hawaii, when in fact he was raised in Indonesia.
3. He probably lied about where he was born and has failed to provide a birth certificate or other demonstrability ability to be President under the US constitution and federal law.
4. He concealed details of his trip to Pakistan and his citizenship at various times throughout his life.
5. He lied about the extent of his relationship with Bill Ayres.
6. He lied about the extent of his involvement with ACORN.
7. He concealed details of his job as a community activist.
8. He concealed his role with the Annenberg Foundation.
9. He lied about his role with the Woods Foundation.
10. He lied about the extent of his involvement with the former heads of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
11. He has concealed his college and law school transcripts, his application to practice law in Illinois and his list of clients as a practicing attorney.
12. He lied about being known by any names other than Barack Obama.
13. He lied about his membership in the New Party in Chicago.
14. He never adequately explained why he decided to move to Chicago after law school and start his political career here.
15. He lied about his involvement with Rev. Wright.
16. He concealed his grandmothers, making them unavailable to the news media.


18 posted on 10/12/2008 8:41:10 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Liberty Valance
This is from an Andy Martin press release published July 2, 2008. I independently confirmed the information with Danielle Allen's office.

Thank you for sharing your press release with me. I am happy to provide you with the same information I provided to the Washington Post:

(1) I am a donor to the Obama campaign.
(2) I volunteered full time for the Obama campaign as a field organizer in California from the end of December through the Feb. 5th primary.
(3) I have met Mr. Obama once (in a shouted greeting across a parking lot) in Chicago.

I conducted the research entirely on my own steam motivated by broader research purposes.

Best wishes,
Danielle Allen

19 posted on 10/12/2008 8:43:05 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Onelifetogive
Definite Muslim tendencies, especially since his church welcomes Nation of Islam Louis, and even allies with him. Black Liberation Theology has little to differentiate itself from Islam.
20 posted on 10/12/2008 8:43:41 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Piranha

17. He lied about his support of live birth abortion.


21 posted on 10/12/2008 8:44:56 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: muawiyah

“No doubt ALL the descendants of the First Families do.

Only the Tories, my friend.


22 posted on 10/12/2008 8:45:52 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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To: Piranha

If a McCain or Palin did any 1 of those 16 items, all **** would break loose.


23 posted on 10/12/2008 8:45:55 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: RasterMaster

ping


24 posted on 10/12/2008 8:47:26 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: silentreignofheroes

My MIL insists Hussein is a Muslim.Wonder where she got that idea?All she does now is hang out at the Seniors Center and such.And I’ve never mentioned it.

Will have to ask her now.
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Now, WHERE would your MIL get such an idea- that Hussein is a Muslim???

Quote from Barack Obama’s book, Dreams Of My Father:
“THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.

From ‘Dreams of my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”

From ‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”

From The Audacity Of Hope, “WE ARE NO LONGER JUST A CHRISTIAN NATION, we are also a Jewish nation, a MUSLIM NATION, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html
http://www.examiner.com/a-534540~Can_a_past_of_Islam_change_the_path_to_president_for_Obama_.html?cid=dc-article-obama

In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic] accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:

“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet? “

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam. Obama chanted it with pride and finesse.

And this from our own FReeper, Beckwith:
THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm
http://theobamafile.com/

How on earth could anybody get the idea Hussein is a Muslim??

/S


25 posted on 10/12/2008 8:49:35 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: kristinn
Racism alert -

Hussein


26 posted on 10/12/2008 8:50:37 PM PDT by Thickman (Term limits are the answer.)
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To: ETL

Very Excellent Post! A NUST SAVE AND UTILIZE OFTEN!


27 posted on 10/12/2008 8:52:08 PM PDT by NOBAMA in 08 ( OBIE HUSSEIN is a Pathetic Puppet of Bill Ayers and Associates!)
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To: kristinn

It is indisputable that Barry Obama, as he was then known, was a Muslim from birth until at least the age of 10. Amazingly, Axelrod has DENIED this undeniable fact. Yet the media has never challenged his Islamic origins, a first in American Presidential history.


28 posted on 10/12/2008 8:53:59 PM PDT by montag813
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To: kristinn

Obama is a “White-washed tomb full of dead men’s bones.”

Calling him a Christian is the most sickening lie of many. Hitler called himself a Christian as well and we know how that went!
Anybody can believe in Jesus heck even the devil and his minions do but the are not going to heaven. You have to live it. “You shall know them by their fruits.”


29 posted on 10/12/2008 8:56:46 PM PDT by mkcc30 (Undecisive?!? Why?!?! You either love the U.S. or you hate the U.S.)
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To: Eagles6
I must agree. I really don't care if he is a muslim is or not. I'm more worried about his black radical beliefs. That is more damaging to America than if he was muslim or not. McCain should be drilling the Rev.Wright scandal into the ground. Oh wait, obama is a good man....I forgot.
30 posted on 10/12/2008 8:57:11 PM PDT by odin2008 (EVIL TRUMPHS WHEN GOOD MEN DO NOTHING)
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To: gidget7

There was an article on the net written by an ex-Muslim who tricked the Trinity church into making a very telling admission.
He called them and asked as a Muslim, could he join.
They said yes, they had many Muslim members.


31 posted on 10/12/2008 8:57:25 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: expatguy

ping.


32 posted on 10/12/2008 8:58:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Onelifetogive

“Obama, who is Christian” .....

Honestly, after listening to that “Christian” pastor preaching in that “Christian” church — can he really be called a “Christian”? That isn’t the way I was brought up in my Christian religion and my Christian life.


33 posted on 10/12/2008 9:00:29 PM PDT by border bud
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To: montag813

bttt


34 posted on 10/12/2008 9:00:36 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: patriot08

I’m going to ask her tomorrow.All she does in a day is go to the Doc,Grocery Store , Church (possibilty there) or Seniors Center , and talk on the phone (she does have call waiting).

One day I ask her who she was voting for and the first words out was that she wasn’t voting for a Muslim.


35 posted on 10/12/2008 9:02:03 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (Should have seen it in color.)
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To: gidget7
Definite Muslim tendencies, especially since his church welcomes Nation of Islam Louis, and even allies with him. Black Liberation Theology has little to differentiate itself from Islam.

All of this crap is communism: Black Liberation Theology, Rev Wright, Bill Ayers, the Weather Underground, Farrakhan, Nation of Islam, Black Panthers, Black Liberation Army). Please scroll quickly down this long collection of excerpts... You don't have to read every word of it.

From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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'Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country,' he [Ayers] said."
August 2001, Chicago Magazine (article: No Regrets)

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

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"God D*** America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11"
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years

Wright: "In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just 'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns."

"America’s chickens... are coming home... to ROOST!"

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The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

["(Jose) Diaz-Balart is the son of Rafael Diaz-Balart y Guitierrez (a former Cuban politician). He has three bothers, Rafael Diaz-Balart (a banker), Mario Diaz-Balart (a US Congressman) and Lincoln Diaz-Balart (also a US Congressman). His aunt, Mirta Diaz-Balart, was Fidel Castro's first wife."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Diaz-Balart]

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02

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From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

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Catholics for Marx
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

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From the New York Times, April 28, 2008
Reverend Wright at the National Press Club
"In the late 1960s, when Dr. James Cone's powerful books burst onto the scene, the term 'black liberation theology' began to be used. I do not in any way disagree with Dr. Cone, nor do I in any way diminish the inimitable and incomparable contributions that he has made and that he continues to make to the field of theology. Jim, incidentally, is a personal friend of mine."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/28/us/politics/28text-wright.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=sloginL

From Jeff Head's website...
One notable quote from [James] Cone describing his Black Liberation Theology is as follows:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love." - "Divine Racism: The Unacknowledged Threshold Issue for Black Theology", in African-American Religious Thought: An Anthology, by William R Jones, ed Cornel West and Eddie Glaube (Westminster John Knox Press).
http://www.jeffhead.com/blacklibtheology.htm

African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Religious-Thought-Anthology/dp/0664224598 ________________________________________________________

HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

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From the Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam website, FinalCall.com...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

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Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."... "Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

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Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

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"Minister Farrakhan and his delegation met privately with President Fidel Castro of Cuba."
http://www.finalcall.com/media/cuba/

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[that's Michelle Obama with Mrs. Farrakhan. Mrs. Farrakhan is at center bottom wearing white]
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/03/michelle-obama-and-louis-farrakhans-wife-together-in-photo/

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Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

Must see video of Farrakhan's Obama endorsement at the above 'annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008'. Hear him call Obama "The Messiah"! And speak of "universal change":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410

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From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield

"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who [Bernardine] Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' He said, 'I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...' "

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html

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Voice of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA [Maoist]
Revolution #63, October 1, 2006

Interview with Bill Ayers:
"On Progressive Education, Critical Thinking and the Cowardice of Some in Dangerous Times"

http://rwor.org/a/063/ayers-en.html

36 posted on 10/12/2008 9:02:44 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: kristinn

It’s not some odd coincidence that his name sounds like a Muslim name. He has that name because he came from a Muslim family and background, one that he has proudly revisited. So it is not some crackpot theory.

Muslims, who would consider him below contempt or even killable-at-will if they believed him to have truly renounced Islam, have been amazingly welcoming and supportive of him.

I don’t know enough to argue whether he is in fact Muslim, but it’s certainly a reasonable question, especially while we are in a global fight against Islamic terror. The reason for allowing only natural-born citizens to be President was (obviously) to avoid even the chance of such a potentially divided loyalty.


37 posted on 10/12/2008 9:04:47 PM PDT by FreePoster (Political correctness will not die of its own sickness. It has to be killed by the ideas of freedom.)
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To: odin2008

“I really don’t care if he is a muslim is or not.”

REALLY???

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From the Koran:

AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL THERE IS NO PERSECUTION , AND RELIGION SHALL BE ONLY FOR ALLAH 2:193

Sura 33 “And he bequeathed to you THEIR LANDS, THEIR HOMES AND THEIR POSSESSIONS,TOGETHER WITH LAND YOU HAVE NEVER TRODDEN” (33.27)

“ISLAM ISN’T IN AMERICA TO BE EQUAL TO ANY OTHER FAITH, BUT TO BECOME DOMINANT. The Koran ... should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. Everthing we need to know is in the Koran. We don’t need to look somewhere else.”

OMAR M. AHMAD, CHAIRMAN OF CAIR,the mainsteam Muslim advocacy group.

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38 posted on 10/12/2008 9:11:26 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Onelifetogive
Why is it bad for actual Christians to be Christian, but when Obama, who although he may not actually be Muslim, definitely has Muslim tendencies, or is at least Muslim curious, claims to be Christian, it is all streamers and confetti?

I heard with my ears him saying this to georgia phonynopolis: "Referring to my Muslim belief"!!!

39 posted on 10/12/2008 9:13:44 PM PDT by danamco
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To: kristinn

But Obama was born in Kenya - so he isn’t even legally eligible to be POTUS>..

or so this bit says:

http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=3324


40 posted on 10/12/2008 9:14:19 PM PDT by TheBattman (A vote for the "lesser evil" is still a vote for evil!)
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To: FreePoster

I don’t know enough to argue whether he is in fact Muslim
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THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaIslam.htm
http://theobamafile.com/


41 posted on 10/12/2008 9:19:18 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: danamco

Ain’t that right!


42 posted on 10/12/2008 9:19:24 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: kristinn

This could be the 2004 post referenced:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1189687/posts


43 posted on 10/12/2008 9:22:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: kristinn

Obama is neither muslim or christian. The only “god” Obama worships he sees every morning in the mirror.


44 posted on 10/12/2008 9:23:34 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: kb2614

Actually every time he looks in a mirror, Obama sees “god”.

I sure wish you had a edit function on this board. :-)


45 posted on 10/12/2008 9:25:31 PM PDT by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: FreePoster
The reason for allowing only natural-born citizens to be President was (obviously) to avoid even the chance of such a potentially divided loyalty.

The specific reason was to keep A. Hamilton from ever being president. That history is pretty well established.

/johnny

46 posted on 10/12/2008 9:30:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: ETL

Trinity is intertwined with Islam beliefs

He (Wright) graduated from Howard University and earned bachelor’s and master’s degrees in English with a focus on African spirituals. At the University of Chicago Divinity School, he earned another masters degree in the history of religions WITH A FOCUS ON ISLAM.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/

Muslim Farrakhan is revered by Trinity church.

A documented article stated an ex-Muslim called them and asked Trinity if, as a Muslim, he could join. They said yes, they had many Muslims.


47 posted on 10/12/2008 9:32:08 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Onelifetogive

I read or heard somewhere that he the Obamas don’t buy Xmas presents for their children. What does anybody else know about this?


48 posted on 10/12/2008 9:38:23 PM PDT by timestax
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To: All

Obama’s having pledged allegiance to the Black Value System raises serious issues.
He pledged allegiance to it when he joined Trinity- as all members are required to do.
He may have ‘disavowed’ Wright (in a pig’s eye) but he has NOT disavowed the Black Liberation Theory.

http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?status=article&id=285292746454291&secid=1501


49 posted on 10/12/2008 9:43:17 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: timestax

“That life includes a jam-packed schedule of dance, gymnastics and piano lessons, plus soccer and tennis — but it isn’t all fun and games. The Obamas may spend “hundreds” on slumber parties – but they don’t give their daughters Christmas or birthday presents, in order to “teach some limits.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/23/obama-daughters-wont-be-completely-heartbroken-if-he-loses/


50 posted on 10/12/2008 9:47:42 PM PDT by patriot08
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