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Venezuela's oil output slumps under Hugo Chavez
The Telegraph ^ | 10/13/2008 | Jeremy McDermott in Caracas

Posted on 10/12/2008 5:59:47 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

Venezuela's daily oil production has fallen by a quarter since President Hugo Chavez won power, depriving his "Bolivarian Revolution" of much of the benefit of the global boom in oil prices.


US, vilified in a Venezuelan mural, is its best oil customer

To win allies and forge an anti-American front, Mr Chavez sells oil to friendly countries at low prices. Ironically, the only big customer buying Venezuelan oil at the full market price is the United States, which the president routinely denounces as the "Empire".

"As production falls, the sales to the US become more important," said Pietro Donatello, an oil analyst from Latin Petroleum in the capital, Caracas. "Only the US is paying the full amount for Venezuelan oil and in cash, the rest are in some kind of barter agreements."

The state oil company, PDVSA, produced 3.2 million barrels per day in 1998, the year before Mr Chavez won the presidency. After a decade of rising corruption and inefficiency, daily output has now fallen to 2.4 million barrels, according to OPEC figures. About half of this oil is now delivered at a discount to Mr Chavez's friends around Latin America. The 18 nations in his "Petrocaribe" club, founded in 2005, pay Venezuela only 30 per cent of the market price within 90 days, with rest in instalments spread over 25 years.

The other half - 1.2 million barrels per day - goes to America, Venezuela's only genuinely paying customer.

Meanwhile, Mr Chavez has given PDVSA countless new tasks. "The new PDVSA is central to the social battle for the advance of our country," said Rafael Ramirez, the company's president and the minister for petroleum. "We have worked to convert PDVSA into a key element for the social battle."

The company now grows

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; hugochavez; latinamerica; venezuela

1 posted on 10/12/2008 5:59:47 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Remember to boycott Citgo everybody!


2 posted on 10/12/2008 6:00:43 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: bruinbirdman
Ha. Ha.

Senator Obama, are you watching? Venezuela is the Bad Example of why nationalization and government control of industry Does Not Work! The flaw is not in the implementation of socialism; it's in socialism itself!

3 posted on 10/12/2008 6:01:31 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Socialism never works anywhere it has been tried. I’m afraid we are about to learn that lesson in the USA too.


4 posted on 10/12/2008 6:02:17 PM PDT by 43north (McCain/Palin '08 - Now That's the Ticket!!!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Since he has come to power, talented people are packing up and getting out of the country. The production of oil is not the only thing that has gone down since Chavez has taken power. A thoroughly predictable circumstance. The Venezuelans will slip further into poverty, as they are edified by anti-American rants from “the Great Leader.”


5 posted on 10/12/2008 6:05:00 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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To: bruinbirdman

Drill here, DRILL NOW! Drive Chavez broke and his people will kick him out of kill him. I care now which course of action they take!


6 posted on 10/12/2008 6:07:43 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: bruinbirdman

it’s going to be fun watching chavez, ahmadinejad and putin

suffer.


7 posted on 10/12/2008 6:08:05 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ken21

I’ve just added a lot of pins to my VOODOO dolls! :)


8 posted on 10/12/2008 6:12:03 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: WellyP

Ayres speech in Caracas two years ago was priceless. It tells you everything you need to know about Ayres and Obama!

“’...This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for...”.


9 posted on 10/12/2008 6:18:26 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: GAB-1955

the only way socialism can work if it is something like freddie mac, which can grow and grow unchecked...until it collapses.


10 posted on 10/12/2008 6:22:56 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: ken21

you don’t want to go near a wounded tiger.


11 posted on 10/12/2008 6:23:25 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: bruinbirdman

Something tells me monkey boy is headed for trouble.


12 posted on 10/12/2008 6:25:56 PM PDT by kempo
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To: ari-freedom
Exactly. There is a place for government and a place for business, and governments should not own businesses. However, I do find it uncomfortable to use “socialism” as a catch-all for institutions and practices we don't like.
13 posted on 10/12/2008 6:29:47 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: bruinbirdman

What if the US simply said - Sorry! Embargo on Venezuelan Oil to the USA!


14 posted on 10/12/2008 6:39:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: GAB-1955

well there is
1) scandinavian style redistribution of wealth. leave the market alone except for taxing them to death.
2) fascist command control over the economy, like chavez
3) “Third way” public private partnerships like freddie mac and Commonwealth Care in massachusetts. Probably the moost dangerous because they appeal to moderates.


15 posted on 10/12/2008 6:57:41 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: ari-freedom

si.


16 posted on 10/12/2008 6:58:33 PM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: ari-freedom
If Senator Obama wins, we'll be getting a heavy mixture of 1) and 3). Worse, after four years, this will be institutionalized government control. We'll have a hard time getting rid of it.
17 posted on 10/12/2008 7:06:18 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: GAB-1955
"institutionalized government control. We'll have a hard time getting rid of it. "

Correcto. Think Depts. of Labor, HHR, Education, Energy, or just Escalante Monument.

yitbos

18 posted on 10/12/2008 7:19:42 PM PDT by bruinbirdman (GET OUT THE VOTE !!!!)
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To: GAB-1955

I have read somewhere that the drilling and production infastructures in Venezuela and Russia are in terrible shape and the Iranian monetary inflation is causing trouble with their international oil field suppliers.


19 posted on 10/12/2008 7:35:34 PM PDT by biff
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To: biff
Correct. Attilla's post (# 5) explains why. The educated petro-engineers are leaving en masse. They are the ones that know how to analyze a system, find the problem, come up with a solution, and carry out the fix. As long as the system works, the educated folks aren't needed. When it breaks, then you need the folks you kicked out. If you can't lure them back (because you promised them you would shoot them as American spies if they ever returned), the system stays broken. And production drops or ceases, which means monetary income drops or ceases.

Ain't socialism grand?

20 posted on 10/12/2008 8:02:40 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: GAB-1955

the ayers/acorn thuggery leads me to think 2) is more likely.


21 posted on 10/12/2008 9:37:32 PM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: bruinbirdman

Once again the utter FAILURE of Communism/socialism is front and center.


22 posted on 10/13/2008 3:40:25 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: ari-freedom
I don't think so. Obama won't have the local police forces or the Army willing to suppress opposition by violence. Furthermore, Freepers would shoot back.
23 posted on 10/13/2008 4:40:19 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: bruinbirdman
I'm not opposed to government regulation per se. It helps avoid “the tragedy of the commons.” I am opposed to government being the source of funding and the loss of diverse approaches because we must fit everything to the Procrustean bed of Washington's rules.

My father was with the Federal Power Commission, which was one of those smaller agencies that did a good job; a super-agency like Energy swallowed it and the focus was lost. In the same way, many agencies that functioned well as independent security agencies are floundering in Homeland Security.

Better regulation is what we need to strive for. That usually means less regulation, but not in all cases.

24 posted on 10/13/2008 5:43:39 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: ari-freedom
No, because we're better organized to push back. Where's Obama going to get the thugs? The Army? Ha. The FBI? Not after Waco. Street gangs? No way, we can shoot back.

If McCain loses, we must be organized as a lawful, civil, but firm opposition to Senator Obama.

25 posted on 10/13/2008 5:45:06 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: biff

“I have read somewhere that the drilling and production infastructures in Venezuela and Russia are in terrible shape and the Iranian monetary inflation is causing trouble with their international oil field suppliers.”

Infrastructure deteriorates and crumbles under communism? Whoa, say it ain’t so, Joe!


26 posted on 10/13/2008 11:13:52 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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