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"To Fellow Americans Seeking a More Secure, Affordable Retirement" (Marketing to Hard-Hit Retirees)
quesney ^

Posted on 10/12/2008 9:14:05 AM PDT by quesney

I've been looking at the possibility of retirement abroad for some time, so I'm on several e-mailing lists.

I've been struck by how quickly a couple of these international agencies have pointed to the financial crisis as a marketing pitch. They're focusing on retirees and near-retirees hit hard by the crisis and encouraging us to consider a much more affordable retirement abroad.

Here's the most interesting I've found so far (they even have a price list of common items):

http://serenity21.com/
http://serenity21.typepad.com/serenity_real_estate/2008/10/to-north-americ.html
http://serenity21.com/why_nicaragua.html
http://serenity21.com/pricelist.html

Very intriguing. I think there's going to be a big and growing market for them to cater to if things keep going the way they are.

Have your retirement plans taken a big hit? Are you becoming more open to a move abroad (especially if Obama wins)? I know I'm becoming more compelled to seriously consider this option.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: costarica; emigration; expatriates; taxhavens

1 posted on 10/12/2008 9:14:07 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

I would think fun and sun and all play would get boring after awhile:’) How about just staying here and helping us fix the problem?


2 posted on 10/12/2008 9:20:03 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: quesney

Depends on your health and your insurance. But I sure would not want you back to sponge on our health care system.


3 posted on 10/12/2008 9:22:29 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: quesney
If you are into dope, retire to Central America
or Mexico because that is the driving force.

As bad as some people think America has become,
the rest of the world is worse.

4 posted on 10/12/2008 9:23:10 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: CindyDawg

“I would think fun and sun and all play would get boring after awhile:’) How about just staying here and helping us fix the problem?”

You know, it probably would get boring after a while. Maybe a second home a a backup.

As for the problems here. I think we need another revolution to fix the gigantic political-economic-social mess we’re in now. It’s decades in the making.


5 posted on 10/12/2008 9:25:36 AM PDT by quesney
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To: CindyDawg
You have know when to hold’em and know when to fold’em. The coming round of inflation is going to be murder on fixed income people.
6 posted on 10/12/2008 9:26:12 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Mexico’s the New Colombia.

I think Nicaragua, Panama, Costa Rica, Belize, Chile and Uruguay offer compelling and relative safe options, although Chile and Uruguay are way too far.


7 posted on 10/12/2008 9:27:15 AM PDT by quesney
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To: mad_as_he$$

“You have know when to hold’em and know when to fold’em. The coming round of inflation is going to be murder on fixed income people.”

That’s what I’m talking about. A lot of us aren’t going to have much of a choice.


8 posted on 10/12/2008 9:28:23 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney
Sokeshave's rule on emigration:

1. Don't emigrate to a third world county.

2. Don't emigrate to a country where you can't speak the language

9 posted on 10/12/2008 9:28:35 AM PDT by spokeshave (0bambi wants to kill babies and raise taxes, Sarah wants to raise babies and kill taxes)
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To: quesney
Check the CIA fact book instead of tourist brochures!
10 posted on 10/12/2008 9:33:19 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Obama and ITS thugs are made paranoid by Sarahnoia. (stole from molly_jack2007))
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To: lonevoice

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11 posted on 10/12/2008 9:34:29 AM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: ex-snook
Depends on your health and your insurance. But I sure would not want you back to sponge on our health care system.

If the poster is a typical conservative and has worked all his life, he has paid his SS/Medicare dues and is perfectly entitled to come back for medical treatment, as necessary. Illegals are the sponges.

12 posted on 10/12/2008 9:51:15 AM PDT by balls (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate)
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To: balls

“If the poster is a typical conservative and has worked all his life, he has paid his SS/Medicare dues and is perfectly entitled to come back for medical treatment, as necessary. Illegals are the sponges”

I have indeed. Thank you.


13 posted on 10/12/2008 9:53:04 AM PDT by quesney
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To: quesney

Here is my plan: Revoke the bail-out and instead give every person who is a US citizen who files taxes $1,000,000 and tax the stipend at 40%. This would cost far less than the bail-out. Most people would pay off their houses, student loans, cred cards, etc....giving the credit markets an infusion of cash and stimulate the economy.


14 posted on 10/12/2008 10:03:30 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: mad_as_he$$

Well let us know if yall find any land still unclaimed, in case we should have to re-build America elsewhere:’)


15 posted on 10/12/2008 10:03:56 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Zevonismymuse
...Here is my plan: Revoke the bail-out and instead give every person who is a US citizen who files taxes $1,000,000 and tax the stipend at 40%. This would cost far less than the bail-out.

Your math is wrong. With a population of 300 Million, 1 Million times 300 Million is 300 Trillion.

16 posted on 10/12/2008 10:11:44 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: spokeshave

3. Don’t emigrate to a country with an AK-47 on its flag.

4. “You should not be where you don’t belong.” Don’t emigrate to a country where you’re perceived to be a “rich gringo” and would not get any sympathy if you were preyed upon.


17 posted on 10/12/2008 10:12:26 AM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: chopperman
Your math is wrong. With a population of 300 Million, 1 Million times 300 Million is 300 Trillion.

Three hundred million people don't file income tax. But I do see my math error. That said, I would rather give a gazillion to us than another penny to them. How about if we divide the 700 billion by the number of people who file taxes?

18 posted on 10/12/2008 10:14:25 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: chopperman

“Who files taxes” is the operative phrase here—any stats. on that?


19 posted on 10/12/2008 10:15:33 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Election 2008--It's all about the judges!!)
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To: CindyDawg

Yep, and if it looks to good; it aint.


20 posted on 10/12/2008 10:24:08 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: CindyDawg
10 years ago it would have been fairly easy to do. Now, not so much.
21 posted on 10/12/2008 10:31:29 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: quesney
Careful where you choose to go. This is from the SS Website:

If you are a citizen of one of the countries listed below, Social Security payments will keep coming no matter how long you stay outside the U.S., as long as you are eligible for the payments.

* Austria * Belgium * Canada * Chile * Finland * France * Germany * Greece * Ireland * Israel * Italy * Japan * Korea (South) * Luxembourg * Netherlands * Norway * Portugal * Spain * Sweden * Switzerland * United Kingdom

I don't see any countries on this list where SS payments would go a long way toward living better than the accustomed standard we have enjoyed in this country to date; it appears most would cost more. There is also a list of countries where you cannot receive SS payments even if you are entitled to them.

22 posted on 10/12/2008 11:15:07 AM PDT by penowa
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To: quesney

Here’s a good unbiased resource that addresses some important considerations in making such a huge life-altering decision...

http://www.heritage.org/research/features/index/index.cfm

That being said, yes, there is a Central American country on my bug-out list of emergency fallback positions.


23 posted on 10/12/2008 1:09:32 PM PDT by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: Zevonismymuse

That would be about $5000 a person assuming 135 million tax filers.


24 posted on 10/12/2008 1:21:11 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: quesney
This is going to be a great time for con-man to take desperate retirees for everything they own. I would urge Grandma Peabody and Grandpa McGuillicotte to suspect ANYBODY that offers to "help" you right now. If you have to, ask family or close friends what to do. But PLEASE don't put your life savings in the hands of a con-man who will steal what is left of your life savings.

Trust no one.

25 posted on 10/12/2008 2:28:00 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: quesney

As a low-income working American old enough (but unwilling) to join AARP, and with no retirement plan and zero assets, I know retirement is not an option and I will not be able to afford to live in this country when the time comes that I can no longer work. So I am looking for a place I can afford to eventually live with reasonable living conditions.

While I would love to stay here, I fear it might not be an option. So I am open to living abroad when I can no longer work.


26 posted on 10/12/2008 4:16:24 PM PDT by judsonlegacy
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To: penowa

SS checks can be sent to a mailbox in the U.S. and forwarded. I think bank direct deposit is going to become more of an option as well.


27 posted on 10/13/2008 7:27:06 AM PDT by quesney
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