HOZE-EM!!! 
Posted on 10/11/2008 8:22:26 PM PDT by nuconvert
The piracy crisis that threatens to cripple vital shipping lines through the Indian Ocean has claimed fresh victims as Somali bandits attacked two more ships.
11 Oct 2008
Gun-toting buccaneers were reported to have stormed a chemical tanker in the Gulf of Aden off Somalia's northern coast, while another group tried to seize a United Nations World Food Programme ship off the coast of the Somali capital, Mogadishu.
The attacks, disclosed by the International Maritime Bureau's Piracy Reporting Centre, bring the number of hijacks and attempted hijacks off the Somali coast to 69 this year alone.
They came as American warships remain in an armed standoff with pirates who captured the MV Faina, a Ukrainian boat carrying tanks and weapons that was hijacked en route to Kenya on September 25.
The pirate gang's self-styled leader, Sugule Adi, issued an extraordinary threat to blow the ship up and his own men along with it unless they were paid the $20m (£12m) ransom that they have demanded for the 21-strong crew's release.
Speaking to a news agency via a satellite phone, Mr Adi vowed the threat would be carried out by Monday night.
"We held a consultative meeting for more than three hours and decided to blow up the ship and its cargo - us included - if the ship owners did not meet our ransom demand," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I guess aarrrgh and a peg leg just don’t cut it no mo...
let ‘em blow it up.
We were assured NATO ships would take cae of the pirates. Are they even in the area yet?
Why can’t we just go and sink em? We have ships in the area.
We wouldn't want to be called racists now, would we?
Political Correctness. The building material for fascism and a devolution of social order.
Someone’s navy should go along the coast of Somalia and sink every single ship, rowboat and dinghy. Rubber duckys should have holes in them.
HOZE-EM!!!
Why? :)
Blow the bastards up. This has no place for tolerance.
How the hell does this keep happening?
We will “blow up the ship and its cargo - us included”
Works for me.
Phalanx for dinner?
Very quick resolution, except for the crew...
If you sign on then you know the risk. Letting these terrorists on-board determines your fate.
“I guess aarrrgh and a peg leg just don’t cut it no mo...”
nope. more like a speedboat and an AK-47
Those tankers have high sides. When one those dinghy’s comes alongside, drop an anchor on them. Anchors Away!
I liked that solution myself.
lead... it's whats for dinner!!!
You would think that the Captains of the ships that ply these waters would either avoid this area or go in better armed. ?
“You would think that the Captains of the ships that ply these waters would either avoid this area or go in better armed. ?”
I don’t think they can do either one
“Wonder how an Obama administration would decide to resolve the pirate problem? “
Nothing , they are probably among his many African ‘cousins’...
And why not? If the company that owns these ships wants them to reach their destination, they should be the first to be open to a different route and perhaps a little more defensive gunnery?
Have each legitimate vessal use a transponder to identify it as a friend. If it doesn't respond, sink it.
WHY???
Aim those 60mm rounds at anything approaching your warship for fun and pleasure. The Captain will say it's a "training exercise" for blowing off that much ammo.
Like IFF on bases? I fix TACAN once in a while. It doesn’t work close to water.
Why aren’t they convoying ships under US Navy protection through the area?
Time to finally “pacify” Somalia with the peace of death.
WHEN will our Navy be allowed to sweep an idiotically small part of the indian ocean for pirates? They have mother ships from which their assault boats operate.
They have shore bases that ache for an airstrike.
Do we truly have a navy now that is absolutely never allowed to sink a ships that prey upon merchantmen?
If we refuse to attack we should just sail away somewhere where at least we dont have to be humiliated.
This has been going on for years.
Why don’t all commercial vessles sailing this region have a 50 cal. mounted fore and aft?
Because piracy is a menace to free commerce,, the ORIGINAL national interest,, IE ,,,, to the shores of Tripoli,,,,
Review why we were in Tripoli in the first place. Our founders had no issues whatsoever with attacking Pirates.
Millions for defense,,, not a cent for tribute.
And yes,, back then the Europeans were angry at the fledgling USA for not just accepting tribute payments as a business cost.
You'd think the insurance firms would require it.
Could be a maritime security business out there waiting for a startup.
Nah....It would make commercial ports around the world nervous.
But, they are removable!
So, they could stow them before entering port areas.
Pirates. Sounds as believable as scurvy. I thought a Russian frigate was on the way. What, are they powering it with oars? They should be there already and exercise some of that good ol’ Stalinist diplomacy on the pirates. And what are the US ships doing there? Observing? And who would want to send any commercial ship within a couple hundred miles of Somalia nowadays?
Incredible.
You can't leave port when your ship is ready, you have to wait for the convoy to form up. You can't travel at your best speed, you have to travel at the speed of the slowest ship in the convoy. You can't go where you want, you have to go where the convoy's going. In sum, it screws up the economics.
The only upside to a convoy is you are less likely to get captured. In peacetime (or the transition from peacetime to wartime) that risk isn't always apparent. Hey, it's just unlucky captains that get caught by pirates, there's nothing wrong with your luck...
Arms in most ports are illegal no matter where the vessel travels from.
No company can afford a gunship with every transport. $$$
Sen the One to talk with them..
A pirate mother ship locates the target by radar and sends off a couple of small speed boats loaded with guys, AKs and RPGs.
The small boats come up from behind, throw up some hooks, climb aboard and take the ships. They don't get everyone they go for. Some the sides are too tall and others fight them off with fire hoses.
I'd say its time for a few Q Boats.
If the NATO ships have european crews, they may be having difficulty reaching flank speed with a 35 hour work week and 8 weeks of vacation
Shiver me timbers!
......Sugule Adi, issued an extraordinary threat to blow the ship up......
Lloyds is saddened
The pirate gang’s self-styled leader, Sugule Adi, issued an extraordinary threat to blow the ship up and his own men along with it unless they were paid the $20m (£12m) ransom that they have demanded for the 21-strong crew’s release.
Speaking to a news agency via a satellite phone, Mr Adi vowed the threat would be carried out by Monday night.
Hmmmmmmmm, 20 million, or let the ship go and the pirates with them...
decisions decisions...
Ok, pirates go bye bye...
No more problem till the next buccaneer shows up...
.....Why can’t we just go and sink em? We have ships in the area......
It is not really our problem. Why spend any American taxpayer money resolving other peoples problems?
“Why can’t we just go and sink em?”
The crew is still aboard.
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