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The Coming Counterrevolution To Hush The Alternative Media
IBD Editorials ^ | October 08, 2008 | BRIAN C. ANDERSON

Posted on 10/11/2008 6:53:29 PM PDT by SumProVita

Conservative-friendly media better get ready. Should Barack Obama win the presidency and the Democrats control Congress, as now seems likely, they will launch a full-scale war to drive critics — especially on political talk radio — right out of legitimate public debate.

Signs of what the new environment will be like for the right are already evident:

• When the National Rifle Association recently released television and radio ads in Pennsylvania targeting Obama's history of anti-gun votes, the Obama campaign's general counsel fired off bullying letters to stations that ran the spots, implying that they may have violated public-interest obligations.

• When the 527 group, the American Issues Project, came out with a commercial linking Obama to former Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, the campaign (unsuccessfully) complained to the Department of Justice that AIP had broken campaign finance laws, and managed to spook some stations away from the ad.

• When two different conservative writers looking into Obama's background appeared on Chicago's WGN-AM Radio, the campaign's "action wire" energized its activists to bombard the station with rage-filled phone calls and e-mails, making the program more difficult to conduct.

(The show, hosted by the eminently reasonable Milt Rosenberg, had on both occasions invited the Obama campaign to send a representative to respond; the campaign preferred to answer with digital brownshirts.)

These crude efforts are only a start.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: aip; fairnessdoctrine; liberalfascism; obama
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With Democrats in control....it would be a distinct possibility.
1 posted on 10/11/2008 6:53:30 PM PDT by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

You can forget about the First and Second Amendments. They’ll be history.


2 posted on 10/11/2008 6:55:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandkids in the eye when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Right better get used to crying censorship. Of course, the Left will say they are only fighting “hate speech”.


3 posted on 10/11/2008 6:56:34 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: SumProVita

They’ve done it before and will do it again. IF the fairness doctrine were in place AND REALLY FAIR, we’d be leading in the polls.


4 posted on 10/11/2008 7:00:01 PM PDT by right wing (The Drive-By Media Are Terrorists Too)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The second amendment is the guarantee for all others.


5 posted on 10/11/2008 7:01:10 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama will give us enough hope to hang ourselves.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Care to speculate on what action would be taken with the Internet?


6 posted on 10/11/2008 7:01:16 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

They can try to suppress free speech-it won’t work. No one is better than the commies in China at doing it, and they can’t. Conservatives can move to satelite radio, and if the left shuts that down they’ll move to the internet. The will try but it won’t work. The right in this country is being pushed to the point of revolt-(the anger we saw at the McCain-Palin rally in WI was very encouraging). The sooner the battle starts the better.


7 posted on 10/11/2008 7:01:26 PM PDT by mrmargaritaville
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To: SlowBoat407

Agreed. We need to start getting ready to fight a second Civil War now! Before Hussein Obama’s thugs try to confiscate all of our guns. You better believe he’ll try!


8 posted on 10/11/2008 7:02:54 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: mrmargaritaville

Could Obama use the Net Neutrality idea as a jumping off point for something more restrictive?


9 posted on 10/11/2008 7:03:00 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: SumProVita
Rush may have to move somewhere, maybe the Caribbean and broadcast from there.
10 posted on 10/11/2008 7:04:26 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: SumProVita
Care to speculate on what action would be taken with the Internet?

You mean, ACORNnet?

11 posted on 10/11/2008 7:05:16 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama will give us enough hope to hang ourselves.)
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To: SumProVita; Beckwith
the genius Danielle at the Institute for Policy Studies (or whatever,you know-- where Einstein was) and the Washington Post already showcased the Brown Shirt at FR when they went after Beckwith and another Freeper who I believe they successfully harrassed into leaving the forum or at least to change her screen name.
12 posted on 10/11/2008 7:05:17 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: SumProVita

I guess under Obama and troops we will cesas to be the USA and will become the United Socialist States of America...and the Obama logo will replace the stars and bars..


13 posted on 10/11/2008 7:05:47 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Ditter

Then 0bamma will confiscate short wave radios.


14 posted on 10/11/2008 7:05:54 PM PDT by ducdriver (Quantum potes tantum aude.)
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To: SumProVita

I imagine that on 01-21-09, the Manchild will be visiting the U.N. to start the process. Freedom of information is very detrimental to Communism.


15 posted on 10/11/2008 7:06:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I'm voting for McCain/Palin so I can look my grandkids in the eye when I tell them I'm sorry.)
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To: SumProVita

This will be Bush’s and the Republican controlled congress’ greatest failure : Not crushing the Dimocrat party and their allies when they had the chance . This would have consisted of defunding Leftist groups (ACORN) and passing safeguard legislation for the alternative media .

The Dims are not afraid of wielding power to crush their opponents and we are on the verge of being on the receiving end of the ruthlessness of total DimocRat control . It’s going to be a very bumpy ride from which we might never recover ....


16 posted on 10/11/2008 7:06:55 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOLUNTEER AT YOUR LOCAL REPUBLICAN OFFICE . THEY NEED YOUR HELP NOW !)
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To: All

I have the solution — make sure the socialist Obama does not win the election. We have the power in our hands to turn out people to vote against him and if you have never worked a GOTV effort, now is the time to do it. Call your local Victory office that is with the State Party. We need every last vote we can get to defeat Obama.

Call family, friends, people at Church and get them out to vote. Send out emails to everyone you know with how important it is for them to vote.

With the number of people on here we can make a difference so do it starting tomorrow when you go to Church — ask people to please go vote for McCain/Palin. If you don’t like McCain tell them to vote for Sarah Palin.

This message brought to you by a McCain/Palin supporter!


17 posted on 10/11/2008 7:08:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Ditter

Rush used to be on shortwave.WRNO which i think is now defunct. But ther eare some other hug SW stations out there with alot of signal power.

Best make preliminary plans on buying an island with a consortium.
Build a short wave tower and begin broadcasting Free America from there.


18 posted on 10/11/2008 7:10:32 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (`)
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To: Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; Candor7; forkinsocket; LucyT; SunkenCiv; jan in Colorado; F15Eagle; ...

19 posted on 10/11/2008 7:14:24 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: PhiKapMom

Agreed. Go to your local McCain office and volunteer. If you can afford to donate then donate.

If I was a retiree I would be down there making calls and helping out. I work full time but I will be there tomorrow, each night this week and all the weekends to the election.

If you are in a safe Red State or solid blue State - they can set you up to call out of state.

I am hoping McCain’s GOTV is as good as Bush’s 2004.

Hand wringing, whining, watching the polls, watching sports games on the weekends does not win election. Volunteering is a lot of fun and you work with great people.


20 posted on 10/11/2008 7:15:50 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Astronaut
"You better believe he’ll try!"

As Chuck Heston said "From my cold dead hands!"

21 posted on 10/11/2008 7:15:55 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: SumProVita

We need to find someone actually building the infrastucture.


22 posted on 10/11/2008 7:17:54 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Ditter
"Rush may have to move somewhere, maybe the Caribbean and broadcast from there."

Sales of short-wave radios will skyrocket. "Radio Free EIB" on your short-wave bands.

23 posted on 10/11/2008 7:18:12 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: rbg81

Shortwave radio, a generator, and a shotgun.


24 posted on 10/11/2008 7:20:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: SumProVita

FR DOES have it’s servers in Canada, right? ‘Course that won’t do any good when they confiscate our computers. Kidding...sort of.


25 posted on 10/11/2008 7:20:34 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Jet Jaguar

Better get it now, the radio that is.


26 posted on 10/11/2008 7:21:30 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Jet Jaguar

Shortwave transmitter (correction)


27 posted on 10/11/2008 7:21:56 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: SumProVita

I’m interested in seeing how these maggots are going to TRY to
take our guns away?


28 posted on 10/11/2008 7:23:03 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SumProVita

When it comes down to brass tacks, who do you want to win? Us or them. I am not about ready to give in to them.


29 posted on 10/11/2008 7:24:40 PM PDT by factoryrat
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To: SlowBoat407
The second amendment is the guarantee for all others.

Which is why they'll go after it first or second.

Those four conservative Supreme Court justices had better start tightening up their personal security if Obama wins, and avoid general aviation (light planes) like the plague.

30 posted on 10/11/2008 7:24:54 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: freekitty
"We need to find someone actually building the infrastucture."

The question has to be asked: The U.S. Military. Unlike any other military in the world. Not subjects too any dictator or his congress...but to the Constitution. Many have served and sacrificed. Many still serve. In all branches. Are they going to allow what they fought for be undone just like that? I'm talking from generals/admirals on down to the ground-pounders. Just lay down their weapons? Just give up to a liberal Marxist dictator and liberal Marxist congress? I have my doubts. They didn't serve, sacrifice blood, sweat and tears only to let it all be for nothing and surrender.

I agree that some sort of civil war would break out with our military on our side.

31 posted on 10/11/2008 7:27:08 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: factoryrat

Neither am I. ;-)


32 posted on 10/11/2008 7:27:43 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Geist Krieger
As Chuck Heston said "From my cold dead hands!"

Which Obama's cadres would see as an excellent excuse.

33 posted on 10/11/2008 7:28:14 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Ditter
Rush may have to move somewhere, maybe the Caribbean and broadcast from there.

Then they'll just ban radios capable of receiving his broadcasts. I didn't believe I'd see totalitarianism come to America in my lifetime but barring a miracle it's just around the corner.

34 posted on 10/11/2008 7:28:27 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: SumProVita

Just wait for the so called “Fairness” Doctrine. The Democrats would like to decide what you can listen to on the radio. They would like to stop conservative talk radio. Where does this all lead to?


35 posted on 10/11/2008 7:28:40 PM PDT by VA Red (Here's wink'in atcha)
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To: Joe Boucher
I’m interested in seeing how these maggots are going to TRY to take our guns away?

They won't change the rules, they'll just change the game. Like find some way to tax the guns you do own,making it impossible to keep them in a declining economy? or what they did for Katrina, declare martial law due to some made-up emergency and just grab your defense?

Something untraceable, not needing a license, might be a good idea.

Note to self: Slowly back away from the Reynolds Wrap and get to bed. Sigh.

36 posted on 10/11/2008 7:29:16 PM PDT by madison10
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To: lentulusgracchus
"Which Obama's cadres would see as an excellent excuse."

Fine with me. "Every man dies, not every man lives." "They can take my life, but they can never take away my freedom." William Wallace

37 posted on 10/11/2008 7:32:05 PM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: VA Red

Ohhhh...I am pretty sure that they will attempt to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine to accomplish the end of conservative talk radio. And then someone needs to take it straight to the Supreme Court before any new justice is appointed.


38 posted on 10/11/2008 7:32:07 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
No problem. I'll keep my mouth shut and the magazine loaded.
39 posted on 10/11/2008 7:32:56 PM PDT by 50cal Smokepole (John Gard for Congress; WI 8th CD)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The second amendment is the guarantee for all others. Which is why they'll go after it first or second.

Problem for them is, they still think that the Bill of Rights is a grant of permission for citizens, when in fact it is a recognition of the obligation of lawmakers. It's for the day they "go after it" that it was written in the first place.

40 posted on 10/11/2008 7:34:23 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Obama will give us enough hope to hang ourselves.)
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To: george76

Oh my, george...I love it! Thanks.


41 posted on 10/11/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (For Barack Hussein Obama TRUTH FILE see my homepage!)
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To: SlowBoat407

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
— Thomas Jefferson


42 posted on 10/11/2008 7:36:42 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SumProVita
“Care to speculate on what action would be taken with the Internet?”

Pass a vague “hate crime and speech” law, then pound any ISP who allows hateful speech.

Demand the immediate shutdown of any site that allows hate speech under the above law, erase the site from the DNS servers by court order until a trial or plea bargain can be arranged.

Pass “no net anonymity” laws, so when you post “Barack Hussain Obama is a murtad fitri”, his supporters will see your real name, and where you live.

Broaden child porn laws to make it easier for police to get a search warrant for your home, computer, digital storage media, and analog storage media, and allow your ISP or neighbor to report “Suspicious Internet Activity”, this goes along with the one above in case chanting crowds outside your house don't shut you up properly.

Change laws that only apply to broadcasters to apply to the net (which currently falls under telecomm laws) authorizing FCC to take appropriate action in regards to “news aggregator” sites or other commercial “content” sites, to assure “fairness” and licensing.

I think that's a good start. This would take one or two omnibus crime bills, the right guy in FCC, and a mainstream media bleeding money and viewers to accomplish.

43 posted on 10/11/2008 7:38:21 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: madison10

I’ve a few of those, untraecables.


44 posted on 10/11/2008 7:41:24 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SumProVita
"With Democrats in control....it would be a distinct possibility."

Not just a possibility - you can take it to your local gov't owned bank!

45 posted on 10/11/2008 7:41:42 PM PDT by penowa
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To: DBrow

Guess them taking our computers wasn’t so far off... So what happens, we just make everything more mobile and untraceable?


46 posted on 10/11/2008 7:42:00 PM PDT by madison10
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To: DBrow

You are right. And here’s this from the article (with more detail at the actual site):

“Obama, like congressional Democrats, also wants to regulate the Internet, the only other medium in which the right does well, via its influential bloggers.

The means here: something called “network neutrality.” Neutrality, if enacted, would give government overseers at the FCC the power to ensure that Internet providers treated equally all the information bits surging across the Web’s “pipes” — its cables, fiber optics, phone lines and wireless connections.

This measure makes zero economic sense.”


47 posted on 10/11/2008 7:43:06 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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To: Astronaut

” Agreed. We need to start getting ready to fight a second Civil War now! “

I’m in Japan , but have some dough stashed away for a flight to the USA when needed .


48 posted on 10/11/2008 7:43:32 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: SumProVita
Only if we let them. Are we all really just gonna sit back and let them take Rush or FOX off the air? Are we gonna just say "okay, here's my Sig". Listen, there are certain freedoms given to us by our Founding Fathers that they would expect us to take up arms and fight for...they did. Are we not cut of the same clothe?

Good night, I grow weary of my fellow conservatives willingness to whine and let them destroy this great country and its freedoms...purchased with blood. Not everything can be won in the vaunted "marketplace of ideas". Was King George persuaded by rhetoric? There may come a time where posting on FR will not be enough. And NO this is not radical hyperbole unless you call what the Founders did radical hyperbole. And if you do, there is indeed no hope.

49 posted on 10/11/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT by mek1959
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To: madison10

You’ll still have a computer, you just will be watched and monitored if you try anything dangerous like saying that under Shari’a law, the son of a Muslim is a Muslim, and a Muslim who gives up this birthright is a murtad fatri. Or give .308 loading advice.

I’d look into steganography, crypto, and the older web nets like IRC, and usenet.

Get a dialup modem, we can set up BBS nets. Might not be a bad idea to see how they worked...


50 posted on 10/11/2008 7:47:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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