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Obama gets blue-light special rate for primetime TV address (More proof of media bias)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 10/11/2008 | Jimmy Orr

Posted on 10/11/2008 5:39:35 PM PDT by tobyhill

Sarah Palin will probably still beat his ratings when she appears on Saturday Night Live in two weeks, but Barack Obama is getting a pretty good deal.

The first presidential candidate to buy up network TV time in 16 years, the Democratic nominee for President is getting primetime airspace at a sub-prime rate.

Obama will reportedly only be paying $1 million to every network that airs his 30 minute infomercial on October 29. So far, both CBS and NBC will run the program. The campaign is reportedly still talking to ABC and FOX as well.

Everything is above board. The campaign is being charged the “lowest unit cost” as mandated by federal law.

(Excerpt) Read more at features.csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; ads; cbs; infomercial; nbc; obama; partisanmedia
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1 posted on 10/11/2008 5:39:35 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

why isn’t McCain doing this? Why?


2 posted on 10/11/2008 5:42:32 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: tobyhill

According to the laws, they have to give him equal time at the same rate.


3 posted on 10/11/2008 5:45:11 PM PDT by edcoil
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To: tobyhill

network airtime paid for by which saudi backer?


4 posted on 10/11/2008 5:46:06 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: Hildy
why isn’t McCain doing this? Why?

How much have you donated? TV time isn't free.

5 posted on 10/11/2008 5:46:06 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Hildy

I wish he would and then when the media doesn’t offer him the same rates he could use that as a campaign ad. He could buy a blank screen and cost the station ad dollars because of the people turning off the station.


6 posted on 10/11/2008 5:46:46 PM PDT by tobyhill (If you don't give to the ghetto, the ghetto will take from you.)
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To: edcoil
Yeah, but he has to ASK!
7 posted on 10/11/2008 5:47:15 PM PDT by null and void (I'm writing about all the things I ought to do before I die. It's my oughtobiography...)
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To: Hildy

Because no one can stomach McCain talking for 30 minutes. Let’s face it, he isn’t the best communicator in the world.


8 posted on 10/11/2008 5:47:18 PM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: Drango
It may not be free but Obama got a steal for the prime-time slot he bought.
9 posted on 10/11/2008 5:48:19 PM PDT by tobyhill (If you don't give to the ghetto, the ghetto will take from you.)
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To: tobyhill

Seriously though who the hell is going to sit and watch a 30 min informercial, i sure as hell wouldnt regardless of who it is, people will switch off after 2 minutes to what ever else is on.


10 posted on 10/11/2008 5:48:29 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Drango

>> How much have you donated? TV time isn’t free.

Hundred bucks. I’ll give him another Ben Franklin if he’ll do it. I’m sure there’s 10,000 more like me.

Next question?


11 posted on 10/11/2008 5:49:22 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: paul544

he would do fine....and he would have Sarah Palin there as well...


12 posted on 10/11/2008 5:50:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: sunmars

Seriously though who the hell is going to sit and watch a 30 min informercial, i sure as hell wouldnt regardless of who it is, people will switch off after 2 minutes to what ever else is on.


I agree. Probably the only people who will watch will be voting for Obama anyway.


13 posted on 10/11/2008 5:50:13 PM PDT by FFranco
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To: Nervous Tick

such a shame we could’nt have a nationwide electricity blackout 20 secs before it starts for 30 mins, that would be such a shame.


14 posted on 10/11/2008 5:50:54 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: sunmars

I’m sure the media will declare That One the victor before the commercial even starts.


15 posted on 10/11/2008 5:51:17 PM PDT by tobyhill (If you don't give to the ghetto, the ghetto will take from you.)
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To: Hildy
"why isn’t McCain doing this?"

All he'd do is talk about "reaching across the isle", or how "honorable" his opponent is.

16 posted on 10/11/2008 5:52:28 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: FFranco

I think it could blow up in his face, people are sick and tired of the election by the time it comes round. He may just come off in this as completely full of himself and do more harm than good. It has the ring of get off my screen, i wanna watch something else, i’m bored with your face.

Advertising overkill can be detrimental.


17 posted on 10/11/2008 5:53:29 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: paul544; Drango; Hildy

>> Because no one can stomach McCain talking for 30 minutes. Let’s face it, he isn’t the best communicator in the world.

What if his campaign put together a hard-hitting documentary on how Obama contributed to the mortgage meltdown, his terrorist associations, his lack of experience, his South Chicago corrupt politics.../occasionally/ cut to McCain making a point or narrating something.

Definitely does not need to be McCain talking for a half hour. You’re right about that.

A very powerful half hour show could be put together. I dare say it could be riveting! If done correctly — and by that I mean, don’t “reach across the freaking aisle” but hit HARD — it would get lots of eyeballs, lots of attention.

I, too, wonder why McCain isn’t buying the half hour right after Obama.


18 posted on 10/11/2008 5:53:50 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: tobyhill

The only people who will watch this are those who are already going to vote for him regardless. The only way to make a difference is to catch people watching their favorite mindless entertainment program and slip in a commercial and hope they don’t go for a beer or take a leak. No one will sit and listen to Obama for 30 minutes when there is so much non-educational programming available.


19 posted on 10/11/2008 5:54:17 PM PDT by TonyM (E)
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To: Hildy
why isn’t McCain doing this? Why?

Because he's busy running and winning a Presidential race.

20 posted on 10/11/2008 5:54:27 PM PDT by impeachedrapist (Bill Clinton, as Arkansas Attorney General did you make Juanita Broaddrick pay for her rape kit?)
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To: Drango

I’ve donated, my friend...and he has the money.


21 posted on 10/11/2008 5:55:08 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Nervous Tick

Hannity’s already done it.


22 posted on 10/11/2008 5:56:03 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: Nervous Tick
Hundred bucks

Excellent... but the ad buy is a million....what am I missing?

23 posted on 10/11/2008 5:56:43 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tsmith130

>> Hannity’s already done it.

Hannity’s not prime-time broadcast news. Hannity is also not the presidential candidate.

Or did you mean Hannity’s already done the prep work?


24 posted on 10/11/2008 5:57:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: paul544
Because no one can stomach McCain talking for 30 minutes. Let’s face it, he isn’t the best communicator in the world.

No kidding. What's he good at? Attacking fellow Republicans? Consulting Al Gore? Cavorting with John Kerry? Beating other politicians to the camera? Worst GOP presidential candidate EVER.

25 posted on 10/11/2008 5:58:14 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Drango

>> what am I missing?

My point, obviously. You’re blowing smoke about the dough. It’s not a question of “can he afford it”. It’s a question of “does he have the will to do it”.


26 posted on 10/11/2008 5:59:21 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: impeachedrapist

From your lips to God’s ears.


27 posted on 10/11/2008 5:59:36 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Alter Kaker

Lets face it guys, if that barstool Obama wins

Welcome to The USSA, The United Socialist States of America.


28 posted on 10/11/2008 5:59:38 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Nervous Tick
Hundred bucks. I’ll give him another Ben Franklin if he’ll do it. I’m sure there’s 10,000 more like me.

McCain doesn't ask me for my money. He took it with his Wall Street bailout, took it when he announced his socialist plan to buy up America's mortgages, took it when he wrote the outrageous McCain-Lieberman carbon tax bill.

29 posted on 10/11/2008 6:00:46 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: tobyhill

$1,000,000 for 30 minutes of prime time during the in season.

Nooo, they aren’t giving him a bargain.


30 posted on 10/11/2008 6:02:07 PM PDT by autumnraine (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: Nervous Tick
He had a 1 hour show dedicated to what you listed last Saturday or Sunday. No, he's not the candidate, which actually might work more in McCain's favor. If McCain did as you suggest, people might view it as 'less than truthful' coming from the candidate himself.

But who knows...I'm exhausted trying to figure out what 1/2 of America sees in Obama and past exhausted hoping something...anything...will stick to him.

31 posted on 10/11/2008 6:02:23 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: autumnraine
$1,000,000 for 30 minutes of prime time during the in season. Nooo, they aren’t giving him a bargain.

They are giving Obamarama a bargain, but federal law requires them too. The networks are required to charge candidates the "lowest unit rate" -- which means the same rate for prime time on October 29 that they charge for a 3am slot on a Monday morning in January.

32 posted on 10/11/2008 6:04:25 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

>> McCain doesn’t ask me for my money. He took it...

Can’t argue with you. Still I’m 110%** behind McCain/Palin**. No, it’s not because I like him, it’s because the alternative is unthinkable (especially in concert with both houses of Congress).

** the math breaks down like so: 3% behind McCain + 107% behind Palin = 110%...


33 posted on 10/11/2008 6:05:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Now wouldnt it be wonderful if McCain or Palin had some big news to dump right as Bambi is opening his mouth on his infomercial.


34 posted on 10/11/2008 6:06:41 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Hildy; All

“why isn’t McCain doing this? Why?”

Why isn’t he doing a lot of things he could/should have been doing?

CALLING OBAMA A RESPECTABLE FAMILY MAN THAT WE NEED NOT FEAR IS OUTRAGEOUS!

McCAIN TAKING THE ABUSE AND INSULTS FROM OBAMA AND REFUSING TO FIGHT BACK IS OUTRAGEOUS!

WE’RE NOT TURNING THE WHITE HOUSE KEYS OVER TO BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA- NOT IF WE ON FR, RUSH, HANNITY AND FOX HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT!

FReep McCAIN/ MSM OUT.

HOW LONG CAN THEY IGNORE A MILLION EMAILS??

.

McCain is losing this campaign because he refuses to fight Obama and his lies, and dirty tactics such as ACORN voter fraud. He’s just been rolling over (or bending over, I should say) and accepting the abuse heaped upon him- and expecially Sarah Palin.
The anemic attempts by the McCain camp to fight back within the last few days just ain’t gonna get it.
He should have been hitting Obama back hard months ago.
He needs to get out there every day and FIGHT BACK.
Email Republican headquarters/McCain.

FReep ‘EM OUT!

CAN THEY IGNORE A MILLION EMAILS?

REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!
To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’as McCain has said, and vowed to do.

RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMA’S NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’

Take off the gloves, McCain!

Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!
Get off the d*mned economy issue. State that Obama/Democrats/ACORN caused this meltdown. State McCain offered a proposal to avert the meltdown and GET OFF IT.
Obama is counting on keeping this going to take the spotlight off his sordid past and dirty dealings!
NOTHING is more important than waking America up to this Marxist/Muslim!! DO IT. EXPOSE HIM!

FReep ‘EM!!!!

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35 posted on 10/11/2008 6:07:34 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Nervous Tick
It’s a question of “does he have the will to do it”.

Will? I agree he has the money....It's a question of value or bang for buck....I assume they believe the money can be spent better on other events/buys.

36 posted on 10/11/2008 6:10:14 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Nervous Tick; paul544

McCain could put together a TownHall somewhere....he excels in the town hall format....and have Palin with him!


37 posted on 10/11/2008 6:10:46 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Socialism is great until you run out of someone else's money (M. Thatcher))
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To: tobyhill
Everything is above board.

Like HELL!~

38 posted on 10/11/2008 6:10:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Drango

Is this 30 minutes an informercial or a Joan Rivers QVC bargain half hour so Obama can sell his tawdry paraphanalia before no one will want to buy it a week later.


39 posted on 10/11/2008 6:12:00 PM PDT by sunmars
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To: Nervous Tick
** the math breaks down like so: 3% behind McCain + 107% behind Palin = 110%...

Yeah, but the difference between the President and the Vice President is that the President has actual power. Don't think for a second that McCain will ever consult Palin. He's never consulted her during the campaign (remember when she found out from the NEWS that the campaign was pulling out of Michigan???). This is a guy who pays lip service to conservatives, but marginalizes them whenever he has to make a call.

Not saying don't vote for McCain, but don't kid yourself either -- for McCain, Palin is a gimmick and he will make sure she's kept far away from any power.

40 posted on 10/11/2008 6:13:40 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Drango

>> I assume they believe the money can be spent better on other events/buys.

I sincerely hope your assumption is correct, regardless of how they spend their funds.

Actually, from what I have seen, Schmidt is doing a bang-up job running the campaign. I think Sen. McCain was doing very well also, from the time Schmidt came on board, right up until he flew to Washington and made an ass out of himself during the bailout fight. Lately my confidence in McCain’s campaigning ability has taken a hit, however.


41 posted on 10/11/2008 6:17:27 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Alter Kaker

>> Don’t think for a second that McCain will ever consult Palin.

I’m not suffering from any delusions there, FRiend. Still, with or without Palin, McCain is better than Obama. Not marginally better, but unequivocally, clearly better. Not because McCain is so good, but because Obama is so horribly unacceptable.

On the other hand — Palin represents a bright future for conservatism (IMHO). It would be wonderful to get her in the #2 slot next year.


42 posted on 10/11/2008 6:23:07 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: paul544

Let Sarah talk for 15 and McCain for 15. Easy solution and would draw way more viewers.


43 posted on 10/11/2008 6:23:41 PM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, spaying and neutering the animals on the angry left)
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To: Nervous Tick

Schmidt was doing alright until the dynamics of the race changed. The rove formula doesnt work when there are more present issues than red-meat conservative turnout.


44 posted on 10/11/2008 6:24:34 PM PDT by buckeye12
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To: tobyhill

NBC agreed, of course.


45 posted on 10/11/2008 6:25:01 PM PDT by chippewaman
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To: sunmars

yup. i think he lost a few voters with his “mccain is out of time” practically declaring himself POTUS. no body likes a arrogant smug blowhard. i say give him all the air time he wants. the more folks see him, the less there is to like. i believe this ACORN deal is truly going to hurt him. he can not weasel out of it. ayers connection has got a lot of air time. any minds changed about obama by the news has already done so. i think mccain needs to hammer home the ACORN mess and tie it to the economy and wrap this financial mess around obama so tightly not even a contortionist could get out of it.


46 posted on 10/11/2008 6:52:07 PM PDT by CanadianMusherinMI (Mrs. Musher here!)
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To: sunmars

You nailed it.
People are sick of this election and do not want it rub in there during prime time !
Its like Paris hilton.


47 posted on 10/11/2008 7:08:05 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Drango
How much have you donated? TV time isn't free

Because he chose to take federal funds for his election, McCain is limited in how much he can spend. Obama did not and is not so limited.

So it really doesn't matter how much someone donated, McCain might not be able to spend it anyway.

But he can give up something else. He can concentrate his money into the battleground states, he can get his message, whatever it is, out.

48 posted on 10/11/2008 8:09:24 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: paul544
Because no one can stomach McCain talking for 30 minutes. So put him on for a 5 minute intro, and a 5 minute joint wrap up, and put Sarah on for 20 minutes. Lots of folks would pay to watch those 20 minutes.
49 posted on 10/11/2008 8:10:46 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Alter Kaker
for McCain, Palin is a gimmick and he will make sure she's kept far away from any power.

FDR did much the same to Truman. McCain is 72 years old. So you never know.

50 posted on 10/11/2008 8:18:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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