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Mexican Marijuana Cartels Sully US Forests, Parks
ABC News ^ | October 11, 2008 | TRACIE CONE

Posted on 10/11/2008 2:31:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

Mexican marijuana cartels use pesticides, herbicides that pollute US parks, forests

National forests and parks — long popular with Mexican marijuana-growing cartels — have become home to some of the most polluted pockets of wilderness in America because of the toxic chemicals needed to eke lucrative harvests from rocky mountainsides, federal officials said.

The grow sites have taken hold from the West Coast's Cascade Mountains, as well as on federal lands in Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia.

Seven hundred grow sites were discovered on U.S. Forest Service land in California alone in 2007 and 2008 — and authorities say the 1,800-square-mile Sequoia National Forest is the hardest hit.

Weed and bug sprays, some long banned in the U.S., have been smuggled to the marijuana farms. Plant growth hormones have been dumped into streams, and the water has then been diverted for miles in PVC pipes.

Rat poison has been sprinkled over the landscape to keep animals away from tender plants. And many sites are strewn with the carcasses of deer and bears poached by workers

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As of Sept. 2, more than 2.2 million plants had been uprooted statewide. The largest single bust in the nation this year netted 482,000 plants in the remote Sierra of Tulare County, the forest service said.

Some popular parks also have suffered damage. In 2007, rangers found more than 20,000 plants in Yosemite National Park and 43,000 plants in Sequoia Kings Canyon National Park, where 159 grow sites have been discovered over the past 10 years.

Agent Patrick Foy of the California Department of Fish and Game estimated that 1.5 pounds of fertilizers and pesticides is used for every 11.5 plants.

"I've seen the pesticide residue on the plants," Foy said. "You ain't just smoking pot, bud. You're smoking some heavy-duty pesticides from Mexico."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 0bama; aliens; califorinia; cartels; crime; drugs; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; kentucky; mcbama; mcqueeg; mexico; nationalforests; tennessee; westvirginia; wod; zer0bama
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Doing the jobs that Americans wont do ?????
1 posted on 10/11/2008 2:31:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 3AngelaD; alice_in_bubbaland; aligncare; AliVeritas; ...

Mexican Drug Cartel PING


2 posted on 10/11/2008 2:33:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Mexican cartels...pesticide...national forests.”

I can’t stress this enough folks—

buy your weed from Canada.


3 posted on 10/11/2008 2:34:04 PM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: AuntB; T.L.Sink; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SwinneySwitch; ExTexasRedhead; fieldmarshaldj

Celebrate diversity!


4 posted on 10/11/2008 2:35:44 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If Islam conquers the world, the Earth will be at peace because the human race will be killed off.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

God forbid though you ride an ATV through the parks. You might be thrown in jail.


5 posted on 10/11/2008 2:36:26 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Comrade Zero barking for the elite against those bitter religious creepy gun nuts in small towns)
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To: MaggieCarta; jddqr; indylindy; roamer_1; calcowgirl; djsherin; Sunnyflorida; SoConPubbie; ...

Thank you, Juan and 0bama.

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6 posted on 10/11/2008 2:36:52 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Plant growth hormones have been dumped into streams, and the water has then been diverted for miles in PVC pipes.

Thank God the water got diverted in those PVC pipes.

That keeps the the chemicals out of the regular streams.

Kick ass environmentalism from the dope growers.

7 posted on 10/11/2008 2:40:14 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: OpusatFR
God forbid though you ride an ATV through the parks. You might be thrown in jail.

Or worse - bring a firearm along on a hike or a camping trip. I learned long ago that only a fool goes such places unarmed.

8 posted on 10/11/2008 2:42:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Many years ago, I came across a "patch" that was about twenty feet in diameter while bushwacking in the north Georgia mountains.

Being by myself, I got the heck out of there as fast as I could, as one never knows whether anyone's watching the place, and, if so, how many.

I had no desire to be an unwilling participant in the "shoot, shovel and shut up" game.

9 posted on 10/11/2008 2:44:48 PM PDT by George Smiley (Palin is the real deal.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

wonder if they got a permit for that?

wonder if they paid the entry fee?

wouldn’t anyone wonder if a couple landscaping trucks
riddle with pvc pipe bought a day pass?


10 posted on 10/11/2008 2:49:19 PM PDT by machogirl (i)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Drug war nonsense...

Legalize the stuff already.


11 posted on 10/11/2008 2:51:47 PM PDT by Bobalu (Obama cannot win without the kind of people that Palin appeals to.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So to boil this all down to one short sentence.

Prohibition doesn’t work.

It’s amazing that after the harsh lessons of what happened during alcohol prohibition that the nation still hasn’t learned anything. Imagine what could have been if Joe Kennedy hadn’t been able to make a fortune rum running. Imagine how different Chicago politics could be.


12 posted on 10/11/2008 2:55:43 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Tennessee Nana

Seems like an awful lot of damage to this nation, be it financial, social, or environmental, is coming from south of the border, with direct encouragement and assistance by government, McCain having led a very active roll in all of this.


13 posted on 10/11/2008 3:02:24 PM PDT by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Some job our Federal Government is doing stopping this. Not


14 posted on 10/11/2008 3:11:11 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Our law enforcement officers have taken at least 200,000 marijuana plants from the National Forest so far. That is just scratching the surface. These are Mexican cartel grows which are in addition to local mom and pop operations.

There are folks who believe that the move by environmentalists, tribes and certain legislators to close the Forest down from human use in increments through endangered species, roadless areas and expanded wilderness is financially motivated and that there are links to organized crime and the cartels at high levels.


15 posted on 10/11/2008 3:37:09 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: marsh2
...Our law enforcement officers have taken at least 200,000 marijuana plants from the National Forest so far...

What we need are more regulations against this! Better yet, If we nationalize (socialize) all property, then goverment can ensure that it will only be used for good, clean and legitimate purposes! (barf)

16 posted on 10/11/2008 4:00:50 PM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion: #1 National Security Issue, #1 Economic Issue, #1 Moral Issue)
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To: Tennessee Nana
And to think people will vote for McCain despite his support of amnesty for illegals will only make matters worse. Unbelievable.
17 posted on 10/11/2008 4:17:53 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; raybbr; TADSLOS; AuntB

Mexican Marijuana Cartels Polluting and Drugging America?

Gol darn it-——the invasion gets more “special” by the minute.

Remember how amnesty cheerleaders assured us that once these illiterate peasants left their Third World hovels and came to America they would become so enamored of American freedom and democracy they would abandon their corrupt ways and embrace America and all it stands for (sob).

Golly-—my heart went thumpity-thump when Bush sent Karl Rove to tell La Raza US laws would NOT be enforced so that invaders could have a “better life” (sniffle).

(Course, Bush also believed the one about Iraqis greeting US soldiers as “liberators” who would throw roses at the soldiers’ feet.)

Now that Mexican Marijuana Cartels are Polluting and Drugging America, Bush will no doubt interpret this to mean US taxpayers will have to send $25 billion to “help Mexico deal with the problem in downtown Tiajuana.”


18 posted on 10/11/2008 4:47:27 PM PDT by Liz (Taxpayer: one who works for the govt but doesn't have to take a civil service test. R. Reagan.)
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To: Tailback

Prohibition does work if you execute the drug dealers


19 posted on 10/11/2008 4:58:10 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The unconstitutional War on Drugs continues to reap dividends...


20 posted on 10/11/2008 4:59:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So let me get this straight. If any of US used these chemicals, we’d be in deep do-do. We are paying millions in tax dollars to take care of our national parks.

Meanwhile, illegals are pouring over the border into the U.S. and even though they are benefiting from our health care system, our education system, and our legal system, they’re also forming gangs, committing murders, and poisoning our land.

The government (which is to supposed to protect our borders) says: “Problem? What problem?”


21 posted on 10/11/2008 5:01:56 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: Man50D

Better McCain than Obama!


22 posted on 10/11/2008 5:03:29 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: marsh2

Our law enforcement officers have taken at least 200,000 marijuana plants from the National Forest so far.
_________________________________________________

Nope...

2.2 MILLION...


23 posted on 10/11/2008 5:08:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: rabscuttle385

You forgot to thank Jorge.


24 posted on 10/11/2008 5:11:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Put Palin in the White House. Send McCain to Sun City, AZ)
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To: TADSLOS

Ah yes, Jorge Boosh.


25 posted on 10/11/2008 5:21:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: Tennessee Nana

A couple of years ago MJ was the #8 cash crop in Washington, with a significant portion of it raised in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest.


26 posted on 10/11/2008 5:22:40 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: Bean Counter

Border Patrol Agent Poisoned

(with pesticide)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2103438/posts


27 posted on 10/11/2008 5:28:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Tailback
Imagine what could have been if Joe Kennedy hadn’t been able to make a fortune rum running. Imagine how different Chicago politics could be.

Imagine 50,000 of our finest not dying half the world away.

28 posted on 10/11/2008 5:34:26 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: TADSLOS
JOHN S. MCCAIN WOULD WIN 85% of UNDECIDED VOTERS in these last few days if he would EXPRESS HIS OPEN SUPPORT OF THE GOP 2008 PLATFORM ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION and he and Sarah Palin made Clear, Definitive Comments on Amnesty (their opposition) and The Fence (their support).

Obama could not answer this because his party's platform and he himself is for mass legalization of these invaders.

There you have it. This is how McCain get swoop up massive segments of the Undecideds.

Do YOU want him to do this?

Do YOU want him to win the election?

Does HE want to win the election?


29 posted on 10/11/2008 6:22:00 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Silver Lining to McCain's Defeat: We can, at once, seize the GOP from RINO leadership & clean house.)
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To: Just Lori
Better McCain than Obama!

A socialist by any other party is still a socialist.
30 posted on 10/11/2008 7:41:41 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; Liz

Thanks for the pings, ladies. Well, finally someone besides Lou Dobbs noticed! He’s the only major outlet we’ve been able to get to see this problem...where are the envirofreaks on this?????

Lots of interesting photos of these drug cartel camps here:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/search?q=invasion+800+miles
The Mexican border has moved 800 miles north-


31 posted on 10/11/2008 8:00:46 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Tennessee Nana
We're seeing more of this because of tightened border security. The more we tighten our border, the more we're going to see. It's easier for them to get away with growing it in Mexico, but it's getting harder for them to smuggle it into this country. Here they have to have smaller grows than they'd have in Mexico to avoid detection, so they have to focus more on quality than quantity to keep their profits up. Next they'll really start getting into growing indoors under lights like the Asian gangs do in Canada. Then the price of the super potent stuff will come down, as has happened in Canada. Average potency of marijuana on the street will go even higher.

Personally, I think it's time to regulate this entirely unregulated industry and take all those billions and billions of dollars in profits away from organized crime. Then tax paying law abiding farmers would be growing it on their farms and non one would be growing it in our national forests.

32 posted on 10/11/2008 8:03:54 PM PDT by TKDietz
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To: humblegunner

” Thank God the water got diverted in those PVC pipes.

That keeps the the chemicals out of the regular streams.

Kick ass environmentalism from the dope growers. “

To be clear, what they do is run water pipes from the water source to the plants, downhill. The chemicals are put on the plants. The chemicals then wash down the entire watershed.
These people destroy the area they’re using. The scrape the trees and make canopies to cut the view and cut more for shelter. The dig huge pits for garbage and to hide things and whatever. More damage to the watershed.

There is NOTHING environmentally sound out of this bunch. They use chemicals long ago banned here.


33 posted on 10/11/2008 8:09:14 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: freekitty

“Some job our Federal Government is doing stopping this. Not”

Our local sheriffs get some help from forest service and DEA, but Homeland Security says it’s NOT their problem. It’s all they can do to keep up with the Mexican Drug cartels.


34 posted on 10/11/2008 8:12:38 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Just Lori

Lori, our sheriff caught one of these growers who had a USA issued agricultural green card. He was family of one of the biggest known drug cartels in Mexico, but he got in legally anyway.


35 posted on 10/11/2008 8:15:16 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: TKDietz

“. It’s easier for them to get away with growing it in Mexico,”

Not really. Down there they have to split the take with law enforcement. Up here they pretty much have free reign over hundreds of thousands of ‘protected’ uninhabited land where no one goes. They’re nearly impossible to spot by plane, though that’s how they find some.


36 posted on 10/11/2008 8:18:29 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Man50D

Given that we have to choose between the two, what is your choice?

As CIC, Obama would throw us to the wolves. McCain would NOT.


37 posted on 10/11/2008 8:37:48 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: AuntB

I have a story too, but I can’t tell it.


38 posted on 10/11/2008 8:38:35 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: Just Lori
Given that we have to choose between the two, what is your choice?

As I've posted to many others who are willing to submit to socialism, my answer is neither. I don't vote for socialists.
39 posted on 10/11/2008 8:41:46 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

Well your NO VOTE helps to get the greater of the 2 evils elected. Sleep well.


40 posted on 10/11/2008 9:00:08 PM PDT by Just Lori (Life is fragile. Handle with prayer.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So now when do we see headless bodies show up in Yellowstone?


41 posted on 10/11/2008 10:45:04 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Just Say NObama!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

No, I am talking about my county alone.


42 posted on 10/11/2008 11:34:53 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Just Lori
Well your NO VOTE helps to get the greater of the 2 evils elected. Sleep well.

That's your assumption. I never stated I wouldn't be voting. I only stated I don't vote for socialists. Voting for the "lesser of two evils" still begets evil. Your statement is a tacit admission you're not willing to stop it dead in its track and by association condone such a philosophy. That is exactly what socialists are hoping will happen. I couldn't sleep knowing that I was supporting socialists to destroy the country.
43 posted on 10/12/2008 4:37:06 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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44 posted on 10/12/2008 5:18:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Tennessee Nana; bamahead

SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT! End the war on (some) drugs and RE-LEGALIZE marijuana!


45 posted on 10/15/2008 8:56:10 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

Got this email this morning. Seems to apply to BOTH of the current crop of “candidates”:

Subject: THINGS THAT “CHANGE

This e-mail reflects on all politicians Republicans & Democrats, Etc. alike.

Subject: Change and changes already made

Not long ago I read a joke . It said all the politicians running for
president are promising change to the American people.

We send them billions and billions of tax dollars and they send us the change.

That got me to thinking ... They all promise change; How about if they run on
a promise of restoration rather than change.

A restoration that would take us back in time to a place where things ran better, smoother and life was
more enjoyable. Change? That, in truth, is what they have been giving us all along.

We used to have a strong dollar . Politicians changed that.

We used to be respected around the world .. Politicians changed that.

We used to have a strong manufacturing economy ... Politicians changed that.

We used to have lower tax structures ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enjoy more freedoms ... Politicians changed that.

We used to be a large exporter of American made goods ... Politicians changed that.

We used to teach patriotism in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used to educate children in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used pray in school... Politicians changed t hat.

We used to enjoy freedom of speech ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enforce LEGAL citizenship .. Politicians changed that.

We used to have affordable food & gas prices .. Politicians changed that,
too. ... and one could go on and on with this list.

What hasn’t been changed, politicians are promising to change that as well
if you will elect them.

When, oh when, is America going to sit back with open eyes and look at what
we once were and where we have come and say, enough is enough?

The trouble is, Americas youthful voters today don’t know of the great
America that existed forty and fifty years ago. They see the world as if it
has always existed, as it is now.

And what about those of us that remember what America was about—Have we all become apathetic; with
a ‘Who Gives A Damn Anymore’!

When will we wake up? Tomorrow may be too late. When will America realize:
‘That Politicians and Special Interest Groups that constantly Spout: ‘It’s not Fair’
are what is wrong with America ?

PASS THIS ONE AROUND FOR A CHANGE


46 posted on 10/15/2008 9:08:09 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dennisw

They do that in Iran. It doesn’t work there.


47 posted on 10/15/2008 1:53:41 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: dennisw

Doesn’t work in Singapore or China or even the Mid-East. Somebody ALWAYS steps up to take up the cudgel of dealing drugs. You RE-legalize, you take away the mega-profits and the motive for stuff like this. But the producers and dealers have useful idiots who clamor for tougher laws against (some) drugs and we wind up where we are and where much of Mexico is these days. So how does it feel to be helping to line the pockets of the drug cartels? At the expense of your fellow Americans, need I add?


48 posted on 10/15/2008 3:36:23 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I don’t believe that libertarian bull. Drugs are not inevitable. You just kill the dealers


49 posted on 10/15/2008 4:35:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Nate505

see 49


50 posted on 10/15/2008 4:36:42 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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