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McCain's attacks fuel dangerous hatred (Frank Schaeffer barf alert)
www.baltimoresun.com ^ | October 10, 2008 | Frank Schaeffer

Posted on 10/10/2008 1:07:11 PM PDT by lowbridge

John McCain: If your campaign does not stop equating Sen. Barack Obama with terrorism, questioning his patriotism and portraying Mr. Obama as "not one of us," I accuse you of deliberately feeding the most unhinged elements of our society the red meat of hate, and therefore of potentially instigating violence.

At a Sarah Palin rally, someone called out, "Kill him!" At one of your rallies, someone called out, "Terrorist!" Neither was answered or denounced by you or your running mate, as the crowd laughed and cheered. At your campaign event Wednesday in Bethlehem, Pa., the crowd was seething with hatred for the Democratic nominee - an attitude encouraged in speeches there by you, your running mate, your wife and the local Republican chairman.

Shame!

John McCain: In 2000, as a lifelong Republican, I worked to get you elected instead of George W. Bush. In return, you wrote an endorsement of one of my books about military service. You seemed to be a man who put principle ahead of mere political gain.

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1 posted on 10/10/2008 1:07:13 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

One thing people need to remember. A politician is best known by the people he surrounds himself with. Now......compare Obama with McCain. I think the answer is obvious and the people are seeing it.


2 posted on 10/10/2008 1:09:37 PM PDT by RC2
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To: lowbridge

Is this Francis and Edith Schaeffer’s son? What a piece of work he turn out to be.


3 posted on 10/10/2008 1:10:18 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge

I notice that none of these articles even attempt to explain Obama’s KNOWN relationships with terrorists like Ayers and Odinga. They have no answer other than to call anyone who even dares to bring it up racist. Then they have to nerve to say that WE are fomenting hatred?!?!

Civil War, Act II here we come.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 1:10:24 PM PDT by frankiep (Every socialist is a disguised dictator - Ludwig von Mises)
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To: lowbridge

Mr. Schaeffer,

With all due respect, I suggest you go to www.democraticunderground.com and see how some of your fellow democrats are talking about any Republican, not just the candidates. Then think about motes and beams.

sincerely,

Tennessee_Bob


5 posted on 10/10/2008 1:10:24 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (They're illegal aliens, not immigrants - there is a difference!)
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To: lowbridge

So it is getting nasty! Good! Those demonrats can throw out their trash all day long and they expect nobody to get upset. We are MAD—they better know it. The demonrat party helped to create this environment of economic chaos trying to establish the foothold for socialism. So now they want us to quiet down? No way—our voice of opposition is getting louder and they know it is drawing attention. That attention is pointing out the truth and they are squirming under the scrutiny.


6 posted on 10/10/2008 1:11:32 PM PDT by truthingod
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To: lowbridge

It’s no different than what they have been shouting about Bush......for eight years!!!No one cared then...so screw you!


7 posted on 10/10/2008 1:11:35 PM PDT by shiva
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To: lowbridge

The right stands up for itself, finally, and it’s called hatred. The left demonstrates, protests, etc. and it’s called what?


8 posted on 10/10/2008 1:12:13 PM PDT by PleaseNoMore (Country First!)
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To: lowbridge
Shame on Obama

At an Obama fundraiser, people responsible for bombings and domestic terrorism acutally hosted the event.
9 posted on 10/10/2008 1:12:33 PM PDT by mmichaels1970 (Stand up for CHUCK!)
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To: lowbridge

Gee, where was he during the Republican convention.


10 posted on 10/10/2008 1:14:39 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: lowbridge

We do need to rise up. We have been quite for too long.

Evil things happen when good men do nothing!

They have taken our country and have led it down the road of socialism. They are destroying our kids, our churches, our patriotism and our country.

Rush is right, when is it our turn to riot? When do we stand up for our rights, the rights given to us by our constitution. When!!!!!!

Ok, now what?


11 posted on 10/10/2008 1:17:50 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: lowbridge

UNLESS these losers are bent out of shape to the point of psychosis, you are doing something wrong.


12 posted on 10/10/2008 1:18:44 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

I’m pretty sure it is. The younger Schaeffer denounced his father and his conservative beliefs some time back. What a waste.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 1:19:33 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: lowbridge

OMG- The comments are scary and stunning. WHAT THE HELL is happening in this country? The left is freaking, certifiably, over-the-top crazy.
They’re not just against McCain, they’re painting him as the evil one. Holy crap, this is just scary.


14 posted on 10/10/2008 1:29:31 PM PDT by Unkosified (Sarah has always been proud to be an American. Michelle wasn't proud of America until 2008.)
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To: lowbridge
The Dims are threatening violence if they lose and as they threaten they corrupt the vote.

I think McCain will win and I think there may be blood.

15 posted on 10/10/2008 1:30:40 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Unkosified

The only “solution” I can see for the left is to keep them out of power to the point that they go over the edge and resort to violence -

then they can be dealt with accordingly.

Let them get into power, though, and they’ll COME AFTER YOU for attempting to live your life outside their control.


16 posted on 10/10/2008 1:32:25 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Mad Dawg

Soon we’ll probably hear the Weathermen have been reactivated.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 1:32:28 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: lowbridge
Who is fooling who here. The Left WIng Dems have been "Hating Bush" in all public pronouncements for 8 years. The Dems are the Hate mongers. Its only OK when Dems do it?

And now they can't stand factual revelations about OBAMA?

Take your own medicine you fascist pigs!

18 posted on 10/10/2008 1:33:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: lowbridge
Doubleplusgood duckspeaker. Doubleplusgood prolefeed.

<spit>

19 posted on 10/10/2008 1:34:41 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lowbridge
"most unhinged elements of our society"

Found over at DU, sir.

20 posted on 10/10/2008 1:34:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: lowbridge

Liberals call anger hatred. Are we conservatives angry? yes. Hatred is something else.


21 posted on 10/10/2008 1:35:45 PM PDT by Need4Truth
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To: Candor7

Nothing p!sses off a leftist like being called a fascist (and the best part is, you can show how it’s true).


22 posted on 10/10/2008 1:35:59 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

Go over to the link and leave some comments. The comments are all so nasty to good Americans. I left them something to think about.


23 posted on 10/10/2008 1:36:12 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Need4Truth

Angry? I think not so angry as scared to death. Fear manifests as anger.


24 posted on 10/10/2008 1:37:29 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: lowbridge

Frank, if you don’t want your candidate associated with terrorism...perhaps you should encourage your candidate to associate with a better class of friends.


25 posted on 10/10/2008 1:37:55 PM PDT by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: We'll Not Be Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends.)
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To: frankiep

Once again, mistaking high feeling for hatred. Hatred is not the absence of love, it is the abnegation of love, love that could be extended, but for purposes of tactical advantage, is withheld. Any hatred is coming from the other side, as they are seeking the tactical advantage, and cannot concede the validity if any differing opinion.

What we have here is high feeling, emotion that perhaps no consideration is being given your point of view, that you are the one being suppressed.

What race are Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn? They are white actors going about in figurative blackface, minstrels of discord and chaos. And all the more despicable for the charade.

They have not helped the the Americans of African origin one whit. In fact, they have probably set back real race relations by a hundred years or more. No more “content of character”, the color of the skin is the overriding imperative with these radicals.

I want to get back to examining content of character.

I am seriously considering the purchase of a 12-gauge pump shotgun, loaded with double-ought shot.

Pretty good way of making an instaneous examination of content of character.


26 posted on 10/10/2008 1:40:26 PM PDT by alloysteel (Just because you are a target, does not mean you have to be a victim.)
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To: lowbridge

Hey Frank, you tool, as a conservative we have lived with the most venomous hatred for years.

Get used to it, If your boy wins, we aren’t going to be silent, unless your commie facist messiah kills us.

pay back is hell you weenie.


27 posted on 10/10/2008 1:44:49 PM PDT by indylindy (Is there any good idea out there that Obama doesn't lay claim to anymore?)
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To: lowbridge

barry soetero hussein osamabama... purveyor of thuganomics, marxism and race wars.

LLS


28 posted on 10/10/2008 1:45:44 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: MrB
You bet, and I have been calling them that since I read Jonah Goldbergs new Book last year, a well annotated history book of serious academic proportions, not polemic:

Jonah Goldberg: "Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of America's Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning."

Its easy now to see what these Obama prigs are.

29 posted on 10/10/2008 1:47:36 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: Candor7

I read that, followed by Road to Serfdom (FA Hayek).

Yes, the left are collectivist fascists,
and there is no “little bit of socialism” that can ever be implemented without a slide into tyranny.


30 posted on 10/10/2008 1:50:20 PM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: Mad Dawg

Blood and fire will be on the streets either way. If Obama wins, they will be like winning the NBA championship and if Obama loses, they will riot that it was racist! We lose for awhile either way. Keep your powder dry. Vote McCain/Palin to keep America in the right hands.


31 posted on 10/10/2008 1:51:05 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: MrB
Kudos!

America is beginning to awaken!

32 posted on 10/10/2008 1:55:40 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: lowbridge

We conservatives have been listening to pure hatred toward Bush and Cheney, death wishes and the like, for 8 years. Where have you been?


33 posted on 10/10/2008 1:59:29 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: lowbridge

This guy compared his father, unfavorably, to Obama’s Rev. Wright. Nice that this comes out on the same day as Christopher Buckley’s endorsement of Obama.


34 posted on 10/10/2008 2:05:47 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: lowbridge
You know, in only 24 hours this "drum up hatred" meme has permeated the Left blogosphere and by extension the MSM. It's almost as if everybody discovered it all at once...or planned on it looking that way.

After eight years of lies and insane hatred the Left has only itself to blame. Pour it on.

35 posted on 10/10/2008 2:10:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PleaseNoMore

The right stands up for itself, finally, and it’s called hatred. The left demonstrates, protests, etc. and it’s called what?

That’s what democrats call “patriotism”.


36 posted on 10/10/2008 2:10:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lowbridge
I am ashamed of this drivel appearing in the Baltimore Sun. My working career began 52 years ago, selling this newspaper. In college and before, I read the works of H.L. Mencken, once the Editor of the Sun, and perhaps one of the greatest editors who ever sat behind a typewriter.

The Sun, then, was regularly ranked as one of the ten great newspapers in the US. It may still be rated that highly. But if so, the only reason the Sun is rated that way,k today, is that the competition has gotten so incompetent and dishonest.

Mencken would never have let this drivel get past his red pencil.

Congressman Billybob

The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

Latest article, "Prices, Politicians, and Common Sense"

37 posted on 10/10/2008 2:11:16 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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To: MrB
Let them get into power, though, and they’ll COME AFTER YOU for attempting to live your life outside their control.

Agreed. THEY are the dangerous ones, not the generally rare assorted nuts that inhabit every single sector of society. I am genuinely concerned that if Obama wins, that may be the last free election in our nation. If he wins, he'll have a larger majority in Congress than now exists for the Dems, and he'll be able to push through "temporary" emergency powers (due to this financial crisis that his masters and sympathizers have created at just the perfect time - for him). "Temporary" in the same manner that Hitler's powers were temporary after the Reichstag Fire. His campaign has already tried to shut up the NRA by threatening TV and radio stations with lawsuits and action by the FCC to review their licenses; he and his ilk are desperate to restore the "Fairness" Doctrine in order to shut up Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Savage, etc., etc.; and he's paid $800,000 to ACORN to register new voters (like dead ones, and some guy who they registered 72 times). In short, he does NOT believe in letting the people really have a voice in their own future - just like any good Marxist or Leninist. Look also for an Executive Order banning all imports of firearms, ammo, parts and reloading components for civilian sale, and for an attempt to pressure gun and ammo manufacturers to have exclusive contracts with Uncle (as in no sales to civilians, or you don't get the contract).

Very, very scary. I wouldn't say any of this if it weren't for the people with whom he's associated for the past 25 years - but many of them are true radicals, intent on acquiring power at any price. I just hope and pray that Obama loses. I'll take the riots over him in charge of the armed forces and various alphabet soup agencies any day, and even every day.

38 posted on 10/10/2008 2:15:09 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obamination from becoming President)
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To: lowbridge

He cannot name a single instance of McCain or Palin inciting hate towards Obama. Pointing up Obama’s record and history is not inciting hate. If it is, then what’s the point of having campaigns? Why not have a one-party State, according to Schaeffer’s rules of decorum, and get on with it?


39 posted on 10/10/2008 2:15:21 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: lowbridge

This is the same old junk Democrats always whine about. Dirty campaign, swiftboating, inciting hatred! They don’t make the rules of the game, and I don’t play by their rules. They’re like little children in the schoolyard, wanting to change the rules when they don’t like the way the game is going.


40 posted on 10/10/2008 2:17:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Does Obama know ANYONE who likes America, capitalism, or white people?)
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To: lowbridge

A lot of these wishy-washy Republican types who are defending and supporting Obama are going to be in for a big surprise, and I can only hope they have the good graces to apologize for their dimwittedness. One thing is for certain. The mean things being said about Barack Hussein Obama now are nothing compared to what will be said about him after he is in office for awhile. If he is truly too sensitive to take it, he should get out now. The insults being lodged against him are nothing compared to what McCain has endured, and the insults against Barack are probably true.


41 posted on 10/10/2008 2:23:19 PM PDT by pallis
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To: truthingod

Yes, Demonrats are just sweetness and light./s I suppose we are not to take notice of their treatment of Gov. Sarah Palin and Pres. Bush?? The two camps supporters are completely different and the only violent, threatening people happen to belong to the thug Demonrats, ACORN and every other leftist organization.


42 posted on 10/10/2008 2:28:40 PM PDT by bushfamfan (Palin is America's Thatcher, Obama is America's Chamberlain with beliefs of Lenin)
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To: lowbridge

Wow, so this is how the MSM will attempt to shame McCain into not attacking Obama (ACORN Ad and more to come). Pitiful. Mac, the MSM is running scared, hit the bastard even harder!


43 posted on 10/10/2008 2:35:39 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: lowbridge
"Life-long Republican." (laughing) That's the MSM/Driveby telltale line to hearing a liberal denounce a Republican. And here's an agitated liberal playing the Race Card TM!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

44 posted on 10/10/2008 2:35:53 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: PleaseNoMore

“The left demonstrates, protests, etc. and it’s called what?”

Patriotism, sick isn’t it?


45 posted on 10/10/2008 2:37:31 PM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: lowbridge

I have to admit it makes me feel a little hinky when we hope for a “Bradley effect,” and embrace or encourage racism as a means of winning votes. “Hinky” is not the right word. Dishonorable. It feels dishonorable. We should be better than that. And it feels like it dishonors John McCain, who has based his whole career on honor.


46 posted on 10/10/2008 2:38:07 PM PDT by teethodore
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To: WVNan
By their works shall ye know them and by the people they surround themselves with. Now……compare Obama with McCain. The answer is obvious and the American people are just now seeing it.

Obama and his ilk are socialists, and now when they talk about nationalizing banks, they won’t need to tax us, they’ll already our money.

WAKE UP AMERICA! Soon the train will be leaving the station.

47 posted on 10/10/2008 2:39:07 PM PDT by Dream Warrior (Will someone wake up Senator McCain!)
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To: teethodore

Do they stamp you guys out of cow flop with a brick mold?


48 posted on 10/10/2008 2:40:47 PM PDT by Stentor (Obama is Bill Ayers' Renfield.)
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To: teethodore

Good grief, troll. I can smell your DU stink clear here to the UP. I bet you’re still upset that Che got venitilated, the Berlin Wall fell and you’re not in the same cell with your Irish buddy kwame kilpatrick.

Go back to your babbling Marxist professors at Ann Arbor and ask for passage to a ChiCom re-education camp. You flunked your attempt to infiltrate FR with your racist garbage.


49 posted on 10/10/2008 4:39:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: Stentor

Do they stamp you guys out of cow flop with a brick mold?

LOL!

You stomped that little troll before he could exit his rat hole. His Marxist professor in Ann Arbor will comfort him with an extra tampon to dry his tears.


50 posted on 10/10/2008 4:46:28 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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