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Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 270 Bush 248
http://www.electoral-vote.com/ ^

Posted on 10/10/2008 12:04:45 PM PDT by justlittleoleme

This day in 2004 Electoral Vote Predictor 2004: Kerry 270 Bush 248

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2004/Pres/Maps/Oct10.html

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

Its not over until its over. I think it will all depend on how many acorn nuts are eliminated.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004polls; 2008polls; election; polling; vote

1 posted on 10/10/2008 12:04:45 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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To: justlittleoleme

Polling’s Perfect Storm?

According to Mark Blumenthal at National Journal, there are three factors at work that may cause polls to be way off this year. They are:

1. 20% of all households don’t have a landline and they are mostly younger voters
2. The “Bradley Effect” in which white voters tell pollsters they will vote for a black guy but don’t
3. Likely voter models may not capture the electorate correctly

Cell-phone-only voters are young and strongly pro-Obama and may cause his strength to be understated. The effect can be compensated for by weighting 18-29 year olds in sufficient numbers (but see below). The second effect is unknown although it did not appear to be a big factor in the primaries. This effect would cause McCain’s strength to appear weaker than it really is. Finally, the likely voter models assume there is some way to tell who will vote and who won’t. This year that is very hard to gauge and demographic models based on the 2004 exit polls may not be worth much. On the other hand, these effects may all cancel. It is a tough call.


2 posted on 10/10/2008 12:07:43 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Do as I say, not as I panic.)
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To: justlittleoleme

I agree. And - I don’t think the Dems can count on the Hispanic vote the way they are all blathering. I live in Phoenix and the talk here is that Obama after all voted against immigration reform. And many of the Latinos here understand that their jobs depend on people making over $250K per year - and they are starting to lose those jobs. Many of the Hispanics are evidently voting Republican this year if you listen to the Hispanic stations and read hispanic papers.


3 posted on 10/10/2008 12:07:53 PM PDT by phoenix07
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To: justlittleoleme
Electoral Vote Predictor October 16th, 2012: Palin 303 Clinton 235
4 posted on 10/10/2008 12:10:04 PM PDT by Perdogg ("That One" for President - of Kenya, Say no to Barack Odinga)
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To: Lucky9teen

Today's Polls

We have 13 presidential polls today. A Rasmussen poll in Michigan makes it clear why McCain abandoned the state: Obama is leading by 16 points. No doubt McCain's internal polls showed the same thing and Steve Schmidt decided it was hopeless. Obama still has a small (3-point) lead in Florida. He has been leading there in the last few polls. Florida is a must-win state for McCain. There is no way he can get to 270 without Florida. Same is true for Ohio, where Obama is ahead 48% to 45%. McCain absolutely must win Ohio, too. North Carolina is a statististical tie, with Obama 1 point ahead. Again, McCain must win North Carolina. He should be 10 points ahead here and he is not. Missouri is now for McCain 49% to 46%. It is not a must-win state for either candidate, but with 11 electoral votes, it is a prize worth having. Finally, West Virginia shows Obama with an 8-point lead. Let's wait for more polls before believing this one, although West Virginia is a poor state and the economy probably plays a role heremissouri. Furthermore, Biden has been pushing for clean coal as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil and coal mining is central to West Virginia's economy. A continued push on the coal issue might be enough to capture this state. The problem with coal is that the environmentalists in other states don't like it. Politics is about tradeoffs.

State Obama McCain Start End Pollster
Alaska 38% 55% Oct 03 Oct 06 Ivan Moore Research
Florida 50% 47% Oct 08 Oct 08 Rasmussen
Indiana 43% 50% Oct 07 Oct 07 Rasmussen
Michigan 56% 40% Oct 08 Oct 08 Rasmussen
Minnesota 47% 46% Oct 04 Oct 07 ARG
Missouri 46% 49% Oct 04 Oct 06 ARG
Montana 45% 50% Oct 06 Oct 08 ARG
North Carolina 49% 48% Oct 08 Oct 08 Rasmussen
New Hampshire 52% 43% Oct 06 Oct 08 ARG
New Jersey 50% 42% Oct 07 Oct 07 Rasmussen
Ohio 48% 45% Oct 04 Oct 07 ARG
Texas 38% 57% Oct 05 Oct 08 ARG
West Virginia 50% 42% Oct 04 Oct 08 ARG

 

We also have four Senate polls. In Alaska, Mark Begich is holding up against Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK). A lot hinges on Stevens trial. If he is found guilty, the show is over. In Minnesota, another poll shows Al Franken ahead of Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN). This was a race the Republicans thought they could win. A win by Franken puts the Democrats very close to a filibuster-proof Senate. A race to watch. In New Jersey and New Hampshire, the Democrats are cruising to easy victories. CQ Politics has updated its predictions in four Senate races: Georgia, Minnesota, Kentucky, and Virginia. All four changes move the races closer to the Democratic column. In Virginia, the race is now marked as "Safe Democrat," something unheard of for a challenger, especially when the other party holds the seat, even if it will be vacated.

State Democrat D-pct Republican R-pct Start End Pollster
Alaska Mark Begich 49% Ted Stevens* 45% Oct 03 Oct 06 Ivan Moore Research
Minnesota Al Franken 43% Norm Coleman* 37% Oct 07 Oct 07 Rasmussen
New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen 51% John Sununu* 42% Oct 06 Oct 08 ARG
New Jersey Frank Lautenberg* 51% Richard Zimmer 37% Oct 07 Oct 07 Rasmussen

 

We also have six House polls. In Alaska Ethan Berkowitz (D) is probably the beneficiary of all the corruption charges swirling around Rep. Don Young (R-AK) and it appears Berkowitz will flip the seat to the Democrats. Another upset appears to be in the making in NY-29 where the Democratic challenger, Eric Massa, is ahead of incumbent Randy Kuhl (R) 49% to 42%. Kuhl hasn't done anything wrong and his district is R+5. He just happens to be a Republican in a year when that is a bad thing to be. One can only wonder what is going on in the other R+5 districts that haven't been polled.

Cong. Distr. Democrat D-pct Republican R-pct Start End Pollster
AK-AL Ethan Berkowitz 51% Don Young* 42% Oct 03 Oct 06 Ivan Moore Research
IN-07 Andre Carson* 51% Gabrielle Campo 35% Sep 29 Oct 03 Research 2000
IN-09 Baron Hill* 49% Mike Sodrel 37% Sep 29 Oct 03 Research 2000
NY-29 Eric Massa 49% Randy Kuhl* 42% Oct 07 Oct 08 Research 2000
PA-10 Chris Carney* 48% Christopher Hackett 33% Sep 30 Oct 05 Franklin+Marshall Coll.
TX-07 Michael Skelly 40% John Culberson* 48% Oct 07 Oct 08 Research 2000


5 posted on 10/10/2008 12:10:18 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Do as I say, not as I panic.)
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To: Lucky9teen
Cell-phone-only voters are young and strongly pro-Obama and may cause his strength to be understated.

The "young cell-phone-only" people that I know either don't care about the election or are voting for McCain.

And I live in the Deep Blue state of Maryland.

How do they come to the conclusion that the "young" vote always breaks for the democRAT?!?! This is very presumptuous to me.

6 posted on 10/10/2008 12:17:29 PM PDT by bayliving (Democrats = Enemies of the State)
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To: Lucky9teen

And how many right thinkers are so fed up with the damn MSM and thier polls we hang up!

I bet a lot!


7 posted on 10/10/2008 12:19:33 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Lucky9teen

Yikes!! This is feeling like 2006 again.


8 posted on 10/10/2008 12:24:28 PM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Don’t hang up ...feed them a bunch of crap!


9 posted on 10/10/2008 12:33:04 PM PDT by jrd
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To: Names Ash Housewares

If McCain is going to win this, the most probable outcome will be 274-264 or 270-268.

Scenario 1:
We lose on NM & IA and hold everything else 274-264. Most important states become CO & VA

Scenario 2:
We lose CO, NM, and IA or we lose NV, IA, and NM, but win NH and Maine’s 2nd CD - That one vote in Maine provides some outlet if CO or NV fails.

But let’s get real here. McCain is still campaigning in WI & PA and the crowds are fired up. Obama may be up in these states, but come on, by 13?? Don’t conservatives make up 45% of the PA/WI population to begin with? And WV is a joke.
But to top this off, MN putting Franken in has got to be one of the most disgraceful things I have ever witnessed. I don’t care how much of a RINO Coleman is, Franken is not an option.

I still cannot believe this country would put a Marxist/Socialist in the WH with such shady ties. If this happens, the GOP may never regain control again. And I don’t say that lightly. I’ve lost sleep over this thing. The only things keeping me sane are FR, Talk Radio, and Sarah.


10 posted on 10/10/2008 12:34:05 PM PDT by parksstp (McCain/Palin - Vote for the future to survive the present)
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To: justlittleoleme

That website flipped the electoral predictions a lot. 2 days later (Oct. 12) it had Bush winning. RCP was better.


11 posted on 10/14/2008 9:16:28 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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