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Letter: Government should stop move toward socialism
The Pantagraph, Bloomington, IL ^ | 2008-10-09 | Travis Donaldson

Posted on 10/10/2008 11:28:24 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

For most of my life I've been told that the government was to protect our rights and freedoms in the United States, how is it doing these days? Not well as I see it and here's why: Socialist government now is to raise us all from cradle to grave so we can all be equally unhappy. Government now knows best what to do with your money; you are too ignorant!

Do you really want this government to run your health care? They tried to run the mortgage industry, see where that got us - $800 trillion in debt and no investigation!

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were quasi-government entities that were robbed at the feet of Democrats and they ignore it! For proof look up Franklin Raines, Jim Johnson, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and several others. Audio and video are all over the internet of these people saying there was no crisis at all while they were lining their pockets.

Democrats have been voting Democrat for years so they can fix things and live in a utopia and every two to four years the same problems need to be fixed.

Blind loyalty to a single party equals socialism and there are no choices in that. Return this government to the people, for the people and by the people so our children can have choices when they grow up.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bailout; barneyfrank; bloomington; chrisdodd; corruption; democrats; economy; fanniemae; financialcrisis; franklinraines; freddiemac; illinois; jimjohnson; partyloyalty; republicrats; socialism
Woah. There is still intelligent life in Illinois.
1 posted on 10/10/2008 11:28:24 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

KILL THE BAILOUT NOW

http://www.petitiononline.com/Nobail1/petition.html


2 posted on 10/10/2008 11:30:16 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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3 posted on 10/10/2008 11:31:06 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: rabscuttle385

What’s this? Something that makes sense? As an ignorant uninformed sheep this makes me very angry.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 11:31:25 AM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: pissant

Bush wants to partially nationalize commercial banks... he’s a lost cause.


5 posted on 10/10/2008 11:32:13 AM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: pissant

There is a greater chance of success using urine to turn lead into gold than there is of that petition working.


6 posted on 10/10/2008 11:56:49 AM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Terpfen

Than keep pimping for the baliout, amigo. That is workin like a charm.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 11:58:06 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Care to point out where I’ve “pimped for the bailout?”

Online petitions do not work. Sorry to rain on your parade, but they do not. No one in any position of authority cares about online petitions. They can be duplicated or outright faked.

Come up with an actual on-paper petition with individual hand-written signatures of verifiable voters, and then someone will care.


8 posted on 10/10/2008 12:01:19 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Terpfen

Then get busy and start going door to door.


9 posted on 10/10/2008 12:02:01 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

And do your job for you? When can I expect my check?


10 posted on 10/10/2008 12:03:28 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Terpfen

Oh, I thought it was you who was talking about paper petitions. I must have mixed you up with another ankle biter.


11 posted on 10/10/2008 12:04:56 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

So, wait, let me get this straight. You post a link advocating an online petition. I tell you that online petitions never work. You then tell me to organize a paper petition, despite the fact that you’re the one advocating the petitioning in the first place. Then you add on “bailout pimp” and “ankle biter” on top of it. Do I have this right? (Rhetorical question, don’t bother to answer.)

Troll off, buddy.


12 posted on 10/10/2008 12:07:03 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Terpfen; pissant

“And do your job for you? When can I expect my check?”

There it is. What? You’re interested in saving the country only if it is profitable for you? You should run for congress!


13 posted on 10/10/2008 12:09:13 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Terpfen

Here, I’ll straighten it out for you and de-confuse you.

You can babble on all you want about whatever the topic it is you want and I’ll promise to ignore the ankle bites from now on and not read your posts.


14 posted on 10/10/2008 12:09:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AuntB

If I’m to work on someone’s behalf, I expect a paycheck just like everyone else. Or do you go to work every day with the understanding that you’re there pro bono?

Sorry to rain on your parade, but online petitions do not work. They don’t work when Star Wars fans fill them out by the millions to protest edits and alterations, let alone when meant to reverse Congressional votes.

The only petition that matters is at the ballot box. I’ll be there November 4, will you?


15 posted on 10/10/2008 12:12:59 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: pissant
You can babble on all you want about whatever the topic it is you want

You really should stop addressing the mirror when giving advice.

Sorry to rain on your online petition's parade. Who will you blame when you submit it and nothing happens?
16 posted on 10/10/2008 12:14:09 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: Terpfen

Yes, I’ll be at the polls. Voting and as a poll watcher..for free!


17 posted on 10/10/2008 12:15:28 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: djsherin

Would it face a constitutional challenge in the courts?


18 posted on 10/10/2008 12:17:22 PM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: AuntB

Excellent. Let’s hope ACORN doesn’t cancel out our votes, then.


19 posted on 10/10/2008 12:17:27 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: rabscuttle385

>>Blind loyalty to a single party equals socialism and there are no choices in that.<<

FR is stuffed to the gills with Party Firsters. Probably all those who jumped without looking to support Socialist Juan McCain.


20 posted on 10/10/2008 12:39:57 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: Terpfen

I am going to guess that you wouldn’t help a fallen person from the streets because it isn’t your job. Also that you wouldn’t stand in the way of children whose intent was to unknowingly do something harmful to themselves because it isn’t your job.

May I ask a question? Are you an American citizen who lives in America?


21 posted on 10/10/2008 12:44:17 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: B4Ranch

You DO understand that I was refusing to accept pissant’s premise, correct? He told me to do his work for him. I threw his ridiculous post back at him. He had no response.

And, you actually have to ask if I’m a US citizen? Fine, I’ll indulge you. Yes, I am a US citizen. I was born in North Miami in 1984. Both my parents moved to Florida from West Virginia. I’ve lived in South Florida my entire life. Does this satisfy you?


22 posted on 10/10/2008 12:51:31 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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“I believe banking institutions are stronger than standing armies... If the American people ever allow private banks to issue currency... The banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their father’s conquered.”

Thomas Jefferson
1743-1826


23 posted on 10/10/2008 1:06:28 PM PDT by I Hate Obama (Zeitgeist : politicsstink.webs.com)
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To: B4Ranch
FR is stuffed to the gills with Party Firsters. Probably all those who jumped without looking to support Socialist Juan McCain.

Well, that explains why I get lots of hateful comments that unless I support McCain, I'm supporting Obambi, and I must be a DNC troll and a Socialist.

Wake up, Freeperdom. McCain is a Socialist too, and the degree of preference for Socialism and Big Government among the candidates is irrelevant, since only one or two major power grabs (including amnesty and carbon credits) are needed to permanently change these United States...and not necessarily for the better.

24 posted on 10/10/2008 1:08:27 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: Terpfen

You suggested “an actual on-paper petition with individual hand-written signatures of verifiable voters” and he then said for you to get one started and go door to door to which you responded that you wanted payment.

Myself, I see going door to door in your own neighborhood as something that is our duty. Improving the community we live in is our duty.


25 posted on 10/10/2008 1:19:27 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Support your country all the time and your party or
government when it deserves it.


26 posted on 10/10/2008 1:23:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: B4Ranch
Support your country all the time and your party or government when it deserves it.

Exactly.

27 posted on 10/10/2008 1:30:58 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle '08 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia '08)
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To: weegee

One would hope. But the Court doesn’t usually care much about the Constitution anymore. They only care about precedent, i.e. they don’t actually look at what the Constitution says they base their opinions off other decisions and standard procedure.

Welfare is unconstitutional but the Court would never overturn the entitlements system in a case.


28 posted on 10/10/2008 1:40:54 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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To: B4Ranch

I told him his online petition wouldn’t work. He snidely told me to do it for him. I’m not interested in taking that crap seriously. He thinks a petition will work, I told him what form to submit it in. His fault he wants to invest time in a failure.


29 posted on 10/10/2008 1:41:08 PM PDT by Terpfen (To all you knee-jerkers: remember Rick Santorum.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The least conservatives can do is each and every one vote to STOP Obambi.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2102477/posts


30 posted on 10/10/2008 2:03:48 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Rush was right: You never win by losing!)
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To: B4Ranch

***...your party or government when it deserves it.***

In my lifetime, rarely have either deserved it.


31 posted on 10/10/2008 3:01:24 PM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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