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Fed, Congress consider 2d stimulus program
NY Times ^ | 10 Oct 2008 | Louis Uchitelle

Posted on 10/10/2008 8:48:01 AM PDT by BGHater

The Federal Reserve and Congress are pushing out close to $1 trillion to repair the nation's financial system and to encourage lending. But that is not enough to revive the economy. Spending has to resume.

Consumers, however, have cut back sharply on their spending, in what will be the first quarterly decline in 17 years when the government tally is in for the third quarter. Business, in response, is shrinking its outlays for equipment, supplies, and personnel. And now dozens of state and city governments, their tax revenue falling short of expectations, are engaged in yet another round of cost-cutting.

To offset this shrinkage, and head off a severe recession, the Democratic leadership in Congress is "seriously considering" a large fiscal stimulus proposal, which would send a significant amount of money to states and cities. "We have to prop up consumption," Representative Barney Frank, a Newton Democrat and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said in an interview in which he revealed some of the details the party leadership was discussing.

The new proposal would be far greater than the $60 billion stimulus package the House passed in September, Frank said. The Senate has not acted on the bill, which was dwarfed in scope by the sums being pledged to Wall Street companies and commercial banks.

Congress, now in recess, would have to return after the November election to act on the proposal in a lame-duck session.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; fed; obama; stimulus

1 posted on 10/10/2008 8:48:02 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Definition of Insanity anyone?


2 posted on 10/10/2008 8:50:43 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: BGHater

JUst print up $1000 bills and hand them out at Starbucks.


3 posted on 10/10/2008 8:50:43 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Dunno if star bucks would last that long.

I would hope some sanity would kick and someone tell Americans to feed the pig.


4 posted on 10/10/2008 8:52:44 AM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: BGHater
only stimulus that will do anything at this point:

Obama starts losing in the polls. The market is worried sick about a Pelosi-Reid-Obama government.

5 posted on 10/10/2008 8:54:30 AM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: pissant

AIG Borrows $70.3 Billion From Government

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10441740/1/aig-borrows-703-billion-from-government.html

What does AIG stand for?
Another Incoming Grant?


6 posted on 10/10/2008 8:55:17 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: mnehrling

Would somebody please educate me? How much money is in the Treasury? Is it a bottomless pit?


7 posted on 10/10/2008 8:57:01 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: BGHater

I have an idea. Instead of the $700B bailout...why not send a check for $4000 per taxpayer. They can use it to pay down their mortgage and the banks will get $$$...

All’s happy bc everyone gets something...

which is prob the reason I’m not an elected official


8 posted on 10/10/2008 8:58:10 AM PDT by queenkathy (Pray 4 Josh... www.carepages.com ( joshuaourwarrior) brain injury from allergy shot)
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To: McLynnan

what i wonder is...how much money does FDIC have access to?

Exactly how much money is involved if LOTS of banks go down all at the same time?

Exactly how many people can they pay that $250,000 to before US is bankrupt


9 posted on 10/10/2008 8:59:53 AM PDT by queenkathy (Pray 4 Josh... www.carepages.com ( joshuaourwarrior) brain injury from allergy shot)
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To: TomasUSMC

F***g retards. They should have let them go tits up and let the rest of the market scramble to pick the bones clean.


10 posted on 10/10/2008 9:01:05 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: queenkathy

Yes, I wonder about that too. Seems like the government is promising a lot of money to a lot of people and I want to know how much is really available. Are they borrowing it from the Chinese? I truly want to be educated. Where is all this money coming from?


11 posted on 10/10/2008 9:04:03 AM PDT by McLynnan
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To: mnehrling

Exactly. The arrogance of these pricks and prickettes knows no bounds. They cannot see the results of their efforts so far have driven vast swathes of Americans to the brink of bankruptcy.


12 posted on 10/10/2008 9:06:01 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Tired from wondering whether we wake up in the newest socialist country tomorrow.)
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To: BGHater

more money flushed down the toilet
13 posted on 10/10/2008 9:08:05 AM PDT by ari-freedom ("He (Obama) cannot win, Bill. He cannot win" -Hillary)
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To: McLynnan
How much money is in the Treasury? Is it a bottomless pit?

Yes. So is the Zimbabwean Treasury.

14 posted on 10/10/2008 9:26:22 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: mnehrling
Definition of Insanity anyone?

Not for dumbocrats. They know perfectly well the Obama voters can be kept on board for all the gimme-gimme they're going to get from "the man" once their boy is elected.

Robert Mugabe will blush before its over.

15 posted on 10/10/2008 9:28:30 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: BGHater
"We have to prop up consumption,"

They tried that in the last Depression - something like "pushing on a string". NOBODY is going to consume other than basics when they're scared spitless.

16 posted on 10/10/2008 9:33:42 AM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Oatka

17 posted on 10/10/2008 9:35:51 AM PDT by BGHater (The GOP, the new DNC.)
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To: McLynnan
Would somebody please educate me? How much money is in the Treasury? Is it a bottomless pit?

As long as they can keep the printing presses rolling, in a word, yes. Of course, the outcome of printing money without anything backing it up (like gold) is rampant inflation.
18 posted on 10/10/2008 9:38:06 AM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: BGHater

“”We have to prop up consumption,” Representative Barney Frank, a Newton Democrat and chairman of the House Financial Services Committee,”

Good grief, get rid of this idiot. (he’s not the only one!)


19 posted on 10/10/2008 9:41:01 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: queenkathy

It’s currently about $45 billion:

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2008/pr08084.html

They are however going to raise the premiums on banks to increase that pot since they anticipate a large number of bank failures:

http://www.sdbj.com/industry_article.asp?aID=22216797.0991022.1692652.35276.1215108.663&aID2=130195

The IndyMac failure alone forced the FDIC to shell out $8 billion. That was just one bank, granted a very LARGE one bank, and it ate up almost 18% of FDIC funds.


20 posted on 10/10/2008 10:32:07 AM PDT by jackmercer
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To: BGHater

That’ll do it! Hand out them stimulus checks!


21 posted on 10/10/2008 11:35:50 AM PDT by djsherin (The federal government: Because your life isn't screwed up enough!)
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