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Obama and Friends: Judge Not?
Real Clear Politics ^ | October 10th, 2008 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 10/10/2008 1:16:36 AM PDT by politicalmerc

WASHINGTON -- Convicted felon Tony Rezko. Unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers. And the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. It is hard to think of any presidential candidate before Barack Obama sporting associations with three more execrable characters. Yet let the McCain campaign raise the issue, and the mainstream media begin fulminating about dirty campaigning tinged with racism and McCarthyite guilt by association.

But associations are important. They provide a significant insight into character. They are particularly relevant in relation to a potential president as new, unknown, opaque and self-contained as Obama. With the economy overshadowing everything, it may be too late politically to be raising this issue. But that does not make it, as conventional wisdom holds, in any way illegitimate.

McCain has only himself to blame for the bad timing. He should months ago have begun challenging Obama's associations, before the economic meltdown allowed the Obama campaign (and the mainstream media, which is to say the same thing) to dismiss the charges as an act of desperation by the trailing candidate.

McCain had his chance back in April when the North Carolina Republican Party ran a gubernatorial campaign ad that included the linking of Obama with Jeremiah Wright. The ad was duly denounced by The New York Times and other deep thinkers as racist.

This was patently absurd...

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ayres; obama; wright
The only thing I think he is wrong about is the timing. I do not believe it is too late. The American People think about the election in October. Mccain needs to blast Obama on his associations now.
1 posted on 10/10/2008 1:16:36 AM PDT by politicalmerc
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To: politicalmerc

I agrre. I think that this is the right time for it.


2 posted on 10/10/2008 1:22:42 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: politicalmerc

I think a lot more people have made up their minds, than we suspect. And once they have, they simply will not listen. It’s to the place where Obama could have done anything, it wouldn’t matter.

Earlier this year we saw the same thing with McCain. Some of us were saying, “How can we support this man? Look at what he has done?” It didn’t matter.

Now with Obama, to some people it doesn’t matter.

He is not Bush. He is not McCain. That’s the only qualification for them, as ‘he is not Obama’ was a qualification for us.

Look, I hope I’m wrong and McCain wins, but we should be able to understand this dynamic perfectly clear.


3 posted on 10/10/2008 1:26:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DoughtyOne
I really don't think a lot of people especially white males are comfortable with Obama. I think when they find out his complicity in the subprime mess, his strong ties with Ayers, Wright, Odinga, Rezko the doubts they have about him will fester. I think many will not make their final decision until they step in the booth.
4 posted on 10/10/2008 1:53:10 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: DoughtyOne

There are,maybe,more sensible people than you think...

Attacks on OSSAMABAMA’s friends should be waged beside tackling him on his unconsistance,irrelevance,on economy,on foreign policy,on social issues(gay activism...)...And that can be do everyday consistently,accurately...

Victory is only at THE END of the home stretch!

Thank you trolls! Don’t waste your time


5 posted on 10/10/2008 1:55:32 AM PDT by Ulysse
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To: politicalmerc

I can tell you that I have a family member who is a union member and generally votes left of center. Their views are somewhat typical of what you would expect.

Obama scares the heck out of them.

They tell me they can’t vote for him.

I just don’t know how widespread this is. The way the media is playing this up though, it looks like the perfect setting for a nationwide OJ Simpson verdict outcome, if Obama is not the winner.


6 posted on 10/10/2008 2:01:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: Ulysse

Thanks for your comments.


7 posted on 10/10/2008 2:02:57 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: Ulysse
There are,maybe,more sensible people than you think...

Those who are going around spreading doom and gloom and claiming the election is over tend to think they're the only sensible people. One FReeper (can't remember who) accurately called these doom-and-gloomers "Tokyo Roses."

They're trying to demoralize the voters here, just as many of the pollsters are doing. My approach is to pity them because their lives must be so miserable for them to be trying to bring everyone else down and to ignore them (or in some cases, poke fun at them.) I suspect many of them want 0bama to win.

I haven't made any predictions, but Election Day is November 4 and it's not over until the last polls close that day.

And I'm sure as hell not giving up. I'm glad to see that there are some truly sensible people who feel the same way. :)

8 posted on 10/10/2008 2:07:01 AM PDT by Allegra ( Go Sarah!)
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To: politicalmerc
The only thing I think he is wrong about is the timing.

He is also wrong about Obama being "a man of first-class intellect and first-class temperament." I am sick of this sort of nauseating puffery.

9 posted on 10/10/2008 2:09:20 AM PDT by TChad
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To: DoughtyOne
I can tell you that I have a family member who is a union member and generally votes left of center. Their views are somewhat typical of what you would expect.<<<<<<<<<<<

I just don't see the Archie Bunkers of the world voting for Barack Obama. Meathead will vote for Obama (both literally and figuratively).

Your rank and file blue collar worker does not trust ivy-leaguers white or black. When you start throwing in Ayers, Rezko, Odinga, and Wright (which we should do HARD) your union guys are just not going to be able to stomach Obama. I do however believe they will LIE TO THE EXIT POLLER! This should create a fun post election.

I have already cleared my calendar. I was on the phone with an election lawyer who is Chief of Staff to a Congressman I know tonight. I'm on the list and ready to fly out. I have my ACORN stomping boots on.

Politicalmerc is not just a name, I enjoy living it ;-P

10 posted on 10/10/2008 2:10:31 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: TChad
The only thing I think he is wrong about is the timing.

He is also wrong about Obama being "a man of first-class intellect and first-class temperament." I am sick of this sort of nauseating puffery.<<<<<<<<<<

I stand duly corrected.

11 posted on 10/10/2008 2:12:03 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Even given their historic pattern of bias in favor of the left, I have been astonished at the total lack of any professional pride or integrity on the part of the mainstream media. Andrea Mitchell, Charlie Gibson, Katie Couric, Campbell Brown, etc. have all shown a determination to ensure the election of this bizarre character without having the slightest inclination to delve into his background or character and by painting every action and word of the Republicans in the worst possible way. Not to mention the low-rent “Bozo” end of the journalistic profession (Matthews, Olbermann, the “reportorial” staff of the New York Times) that you wouldn’t have expected the slightest objectivity from anyway. Don’t bet that “he’ll govern as a moderate after the election”, he is from the political cesspool named Chicago. I would predict that the election of this far leftist will yield hundreds of millions in annual funding for ACORN and the total corruption of the voter registration and voting process, the driving of talk radio off the air through the re-adoption of the fairness doctrine, and a variety of other ruthless Chicago-type moves to destroy the political opposition. Ask the folks in des Plaines and the other western suburbs of Chicago’s Cook County why they watn to secede and form a new county (they will never be allowed to do so).


12 posted on 10/10/2008 2:19:22 AM PDT by laconic
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To: politicalmerc

Tell you what, I hope you’re right. I may not like McCain, but Obama is simply unacceptable.

Good luck when you get the inevitable call.

Well, let’s hope it is a clear victory for McCain. The other night I wrote McCain would be declared by 10pm pacific, as the winner.

I do waffle on it. I haven’t been able to accept that enough people would be stupid enough to vote for Obama, but who knows.


13 posted on 10/10/2008 2:23:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: laconic

Your and my views are pretty much the same regarding Obama. He is the ultimate sleazoid. As for the media, they need to be job one on November the 5th, as long as the election is resolved.

We honestly do need to take the leftist media down.

Every aspect of leftist infiltration needs to be attacked and destroyed.

The best way is to just out the one by one, and apply economic pressure on them.

The Republican Party is going to need a deloucing too.


14 posted on 10/10/2008 2:27:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Is Obamanation what our founding fathers, our fallen men in combat, and Ronald Reagan had in mind?)
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To: DoughtyOne

I think Krauthammer has identified exactly what kind of character we are dealing with in the words “cynicism and ruthlessness.” The word “cynicism,” essentially insincerity directed towards a goal, explains a lot. If he wants to impress a crowd at a certain point by not wearing a flag on his lapel, he won’t. When it becomes necessary, he will. There is no emotion or belief involved. Kerry was called a flip flopper, but he was just a muddled thinker. Check out this guy’s flip flops. If the time requires him to go left, then it was left, if the time required right, it was right. Jerusalem united one day,loud and clear, mispoke the next. He believes in absolutely nothing except to gain the adoration due a king for himself. Note how he links McCain reflexively to Bush even on issues that McCain opposed Bush. Yet he voted with Bush on key issues, such as handouts to oil companies, not McCain. He is a master at deception, or at deflecting criticism. When it becomes clear that the mortgage crises is the handiwork of prominent Democrats, he simply notes that a leading McCain advisor got a retainer (although that’s not proved) and that’s good enough for his followers and the uncritical MSM that McCain and his party are to blame. When he needed Ayers and Dohrin, Rezko, Wright, Farrakhan, and Khalidi to give his Illinois base the impression he was a bird of feather, he flocked with them seamlessly. When they became embarrassments, he turned on them in an instant and feigned shock that you might think he had been a bird of feather. About the only phrase he’s been caught out showing his true colors was his snotty dismissal of rural and townspeople as ignorant rustics who cling to their guns and their religion. His wife left the cat out of the bag when she said up to now, the point at which they got something out of it, she had not been proud to be an American.

This is a very dangerous man, with his real principles and beliefs unknown, with no way of being able to predict what he will do as president, or why he wants to be president. For all we all we know it’s all because he hated (a) his father or (b) or his mother or (c) his grandparents. McCain has no choice but to hammer him on his past associations with a veritable rogue’s gallery, including Wright, to draw attention to the truth of this man. Unfortunately as Krauthammer says, time is late, McCain is pulling punches, and meanwhile the public’s attention is transfixed on the collapse of the world’s stock markets.


15 posted on 10/10/2008 3:18:20 AM PDT by idov
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To: politicalmerc
Your rank and file blue collar worker does not trust ivy-leaguers white or black.

George H. W. Bush - Yale

Bill Clinton - Georgetown, Oxford, Yale

George W. Bush - Yale, Harvard Business School

16 posted on 10/10/2008 3:32:43 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: 03A3

Your rank and file blue collar worker does not trust ivy-leaguers white or black.

George H. W. Bush - Yale

Bill Clinton - Georgetown, Oxford, Yale

George W. Bush - Yale, Harvard Business School
<<<<<<<<<<<<<

And few of your blue collar voters trust any of them.


17 posted on 10/10/2008 3:33:41 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

I guess my point is it doesnt really matter.


18 posted on 10/10/2008 3:36:45 AM PDT by 03A3
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To: politicalmerc

obama’s FRIENDS? try ‘future cabinet members”


19 posted on 10/10/2008 3:47:35 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
obama’s FRIENDS? try ‘future cabinet members”<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Geez! Did you really have to go there??? That's a good Halloween story.

20 posted on 10/10/2008 3:49:38 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

if it’s so good, why shout it from the rooftops!
Ayers as secretary of education, Wright as secretary of state...


21 posted on 10/10/2008 3:53:08 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle
Ayers as secretary of education, Wright as secretary of state...<<<<<<<<<<<

You forgot Rezko for Secretary of the Treasury. . .

This would make a good campaign ad. If this doesn't scare you, nothing will.

22 posted on 10/10/2008 4:03:51 AM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: politicalmerc

Yes, from here to the election. We have to remember that MOST people are NOT political junkies like us. The fact that Mac is this close tells me he will win. Too much doubt about that one.


23 posted on 10/10/2008 5:07:50 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Starting to regret the handle I chose for this forum)
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To: politicalmerc
Obama's political career was launched with Ayers giving him a fundraiser in his living room. If a Republican candidate had launched his political career at the home of an abortion-clinic bomber -- even a repentant one -- he would not have been able to run for dogcatcher in Podunk. And Ayers shows no remorse. His only regret is that he "didn't do enough."

What has become too clear is that Obama can take about any position he wants and it won't be challenged and Obambi's opinion becomes the MSM's talking points. On TV last night I heard an Obamaniac (his paid campaign staff) mouthing the phrase, "Barack was only 8 when Ayers set bombs off". There was no challenge no question just a nodding of the head by the TV talking head and let's move on.

24 posted on 10/10/2008 6:46:16 AM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Until Americans love their own children more than they love Nancy Pelosi this suicide will continue.)
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To: jospehm20
"I agree. I think that this is the right time for it."

I think so too. Raising this issue back in April before the Dem primaries were even over would have been a waste of time. Whatever effect it initially had, would all have been long forgotten by now. The public forgets too easily and is very fickle.

25 posted on 10/10/2008 7:21:33 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: politicalmerc

Barack 0bama's Friends

Ali Abunimah ACORN Aiham Alsammarae Nadhmi Auchi David Axelrod William Ayers Hunter Biden Joe Biden Robert Blackwell Jr. Governor Rod Blagojevich Steve Branchflower Joseph Cari Frank Clark Gregory Craig Lester Crown Allison  Davis Frank Marshall Davis Chris Dodd Kim Elton Rep. Rahm Emanuel Jodie Evans Hollis French Alexi Giannoulias Howard Gutman Eric Holder Valerie Jarrett Jim Johnson Emil Jones Rashid Khalidi Marilyn  Katz Kwame Kilpatrick Larry Lessig Walter Monegan Martin Nesbitt Federico Peña Penny Pritzker Franklin Raines Antoin "Tony" Rezko John W. Rogers Jr. SEIU Todd Stroger Madeline Talbott Dorothy J. Tillman Unnamed Philadelphia Street Organizer Unnamed UBS Broker Larry Walsh Dr. Eric Whitaker David Wilhelm
26 posted on 10/11/2008 5:36:39 PM PDT by Brown Deer
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