Obama's "Radicalism" a Growing Chasm on Road to Victory

Townhall ^ | October 10, 2008 | Diana West

[2ndDivisionVet]

I realized something after Tuesday night's debate: If (big if) Barack Obama is not elected president next month, it will not be John McCain who defeats him.

McCain may be Obama's official opponent, but he isn't making the core case against him: namely, the case against Obama's deep roots in radicalism, which the Democratic nominee has never pulled up and grown away from. This is why if Obama loses on Election Day, it won't be McCain who defeats him. Like a flashy third-party candidate who ends up drawing just enough support from one candidate to put the other over the top, it is Obama's connections to anti-American extremism -- his incubation in a radical comfort zone home to ex-Weather Underground leader William Ayers, ex-PLO mouthpiece Rashid Khalidi, anti-white-and-anti-"middleclassness" minister Jeremiah Wright and others -- that will doom his presidential ambitions.

McCain, Obama and, coming up on the outside, Obama's radicalism: This three-way race has created a weird dynamic as the candidates turn into the final stretch. Blinkers on, McCain hobbles after Obama, who is now desperately trying to shake off the radicalism that could trip him up before the finish line. Again, no thanks to McCain, whose winks at Obama's radicalism, Sarah Palin's stumpside references notwithstanding, are not what has brought it to the fore. The fact is, Obama's ties to radicalism are taking on a life of their own.

Such a "life" is in no way documented in the mainstream media (MSM). Just consider our leading journalists' idea of professional responsibility when it comes to, for example, Obama's connection to unrepentant Pentagon bomber William Ayers.

Ayers -- a violent, 1960s militant who later decided that radicalizing education in the guise of "reform" was the front-line of revolution -- is infamous for a New York Times interview published on Sept. 11, 2001 in which he not only declared America "makes me want to puke," but also discussed his group's violent attacks on American military and civilian targets, asserting, "we didn't do enough." His working relationship with Obama, as documented by Stanley Kurtz, goes back to the 1990s when Obama served as chairman of a $150 million charity, which Kurtz describes as Ayers' "brainchild," that doled out money to far-left groups such as ACORN. Funny, as Kurtz has noted, Obama never mentioned these five years of what is his only executive experience in either of his two memoirs. Not so funny is Obama's dishonest description of Ayers as "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood."

MSM coverage of the relationship has been hardly more forthcoming. It runs from demonstrable whitewash -- as put over in the New York Times, which, in nixing notable ties, omitted all mention of copious, previously published evidence to the contrary -- to overt damage control, as conducted by the Associated Press. The AP actually argued that Palin's reference to the Obama-Ayers relationship as Obama "(palling) around with terrorists" conveyed a "racially tinged subtext." Huh? According to the AP, Palin's remarks were racist because "terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims." Therefore....

Are they kidding? In a word, no. But such efforts may signal a desperate response to growing, inchoate unease in the land, a silent, or sighing, or very privately discussed queasiness over the prospect of making an American president out of a man who not only didn't cross the street to shun a punk like Ayers, but was so comfortable with Ayers -- who, not incidentally, in 1995 described himself as "a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist" -- that Obama launched his political career from Ayers' living room, also in 1995.

This relationship continued, as even the New York Times perhaps inadvertently reported: Obama "said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005." Ask yourself: What American president -- any party, any era -- would have maintained correspondence with Mr. America "makes me want to puke" for that long? And about the year 2005: Isn't that roughly when Obama decided to run for president?

Americans may be fuzzy on the details -- and how could they be clear, given the media's pro-Obama activities -- but some are realizing, slowly and with no corroboration in the public square, that such radical ties don't pass presidential muster.

Or do they? In the end, the answer will decide the election. Meanwhile, we, the people, are on our own. Once, America's political and media and social institutions would have reflexively rejected a presidential candidate with an alliance with, or even an affinity for, an unrepentant terrorist and anti-establishment revolutionary. No more. The line between the establishment and the anti-establishment has vanished -- at least as far as our political and media and social institutions are concerned. But there remain citizens for whom such distinctions matter.

Writing at National Review Online, Andrew C. McCarthy pegged the significance of the Obama-Ayers connection: "Yes, Ayers is blunter than Obama. As he so delicately told the Times, America makes him `want to puke.' The smoother Obama is content to say our society needs fundamental `change.' But what they're talking about," he wrote, referring to their complementary visions, "is not materially different. Such sentiments should make Obama unelectable."

Actually, such sentiments should make Obama radioactive. But ours is a culture of relativism in which one "belief system" is considered as valid as any other. Democracy? Marxism? Whatever! Lawful elections? Bombing the Pentagon? What's the difference? So greatly transformed by relativism is our society that not even elder statesman and veteran John McCain is alarmed by Obama's radicalism. If he were, this patriot who puts "country first," would be doing everything in his power to warn the American people against it.

Not that it matters, not now, not since Obama's radicalism entered the race. If this stalking horse finishes strong, Obama loses and America wins -- despite the other candidate.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Somebody wake me from this nightmare.

[Wegotsarah.com]

Excellent column.

[unspun]

This column should be on realclearpolitics.

[Interesting Times]

That pretty well sums things up.

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“Somebody wake me from this nightmare.”

It sure as hell won’t be someone like ABC, CBS, or NBC /CNN that wakes you up....

And America may very well find out that you really do get what you voted for, in a very damning way.

[patriot08]

No, it won’t be John McCain who defeats Barack Hussein Obama, that’s for d*mn sure.
If anybody is to take him down, it’s going to have to be us.

McCain is losing this campaign because he refuses to fight Obama and his lies, and dirty tactics such as ACORN voter fraud. He’s just been rolling over (or bending over, I should say) and accepting the abuse heaped upon him- and expecially Sarah Palin.

He should have been hitting Obama back hard months ago.
He needs to get out there every day and FIGHT BACK- name names.

Email Republican headquarters/McCain.
FReep ‘EM OUT!
REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!
To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with ‘conducting a respectful campaign’as McCain has said, and vowed to do.
RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMA’S NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
‘lipstick on a pig’ and ‘You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. It’s still going to stink after eight years.’

Take off the gloves, McCain!
Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!

Get off the d*mned economy issue. State that Obama/Democrats/ACORN caused this meltdown. State McCain offered a proposal to avert the meltdown, state your solution- and GET OFF IT.
Obama is counting on keeping this going to take the spotlight off his sordid past and dirty dealings!
NOTHING is more important than waking America up to this Marxist/Muslim!! DO IT. EXPOSE HIM!
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[SaintDismas]

I’m with you on that brother. I can’t even sleep these days shuddering about what might happen to us in a few weeks. I need to spend some time with the Lord, or I’m gonna go crazy worrying about our country. I’m optimistic, but I’d be dishonest not to admit I’m really really scared.

[torchthemummy]

I guess the answer will come up at the debate on the 15th or the day after. I'm going to presume that there will be a media blitz whether McCain pulls the trigger live or via ads. If this is true I think the thought is that while the debates give a solid audience to make points/appeals to for McCain, they also, obviously, do the same for Obama.

It would seem the last debate is the point to pull the trigger and let the howling of the press, nutroots etc. be answered via an ad blitz.

Obama has been spending like a drunken sailor on tv ads etc. and it has had some effect obviously (not including the free ads from the MSM) but the fact remains that McCain/Palin have been saving their ammunition for the last 20 days after the third debate on the 15th. Blitz with the positive but more importantly the questionable associations of Ayers, Wright, Rezko, New Party, ACORN, blank spaces in bio, under-$200 donations, Fannie Mae/Mac, Johnson, Raines etc. Don't be surprised if it becomes apparent that Obama has spent more on ads than he should have.

The left/Obama will bitch and moan about how negative McCain is being but the fact remains it will strike a huge note when people wonder about how some very detestable, shady, radical characters are just coming to the fore right at the time a huge amount of undecideds decide and hopefully some that have diecided change their minds. In turn they will also question how a "free press" decided to simply give a free pass.

[Darkwolf377]

Somebody wake me from this nightmare.

After going back and forth a few times, I am, alas, convinced this nightmare is going to be at least four years long.

I'm not in the mood for back-and-forthing on this. I understand mine is a minority opinion here. I get it. The election hasn't happened yet. I get it. The polls can't predict... I get it, okay?

But people around here seem to forget--because we have already pushed him aside as not part of this election--that George W. Bush is not loved in this country. He is so disliked that the party he is a part of is going to feel the wrath of voters. Obama keeps talking about "8 years of failed policies" because IT WORKS. It reopens that wound, and when we look for the source of that pain continuing, we see the guy with the R after his name.

The Americans who will vote for Obama don't care about the intricacies of porkbarrel this or Ayers that, or "My friends" or any number of things. And they don't think Sarah Palin is a genius and so incredibly awesome that they simply MUST vote for her. She isn't as popular as we seem to think she is.

Americans want CHANGE. They think the world is horrible, and they want to change things as much as they possibly can. They have been fed a steady diet of "The Rich" and "The Greedy" FROM BOTH CAMPAIGNS as well as the news media. The Republican party is still considered The Party of the Rich.

You can tell these people the mountain of facts behind this stunningly empty suit and THEY DO NOT CARE. They are like children holding their hands over their ears and humming and saying "I can't heeeeear yooooou!" Because they would have to listen to a lot of information, read boring articles. And all these voters want is to work their jobs, come home, and turn on the tube, and see their 401k is doing nicely.

Iraq isn't an issue that will decide this election. McCain can keep saying "He was wrong about Iraq!"--no one gives a damn because we were ALL wrong on Iraq--the WMDs weren't there (I know that's not the only reason we went there, but we let the news media MAKE that the only reason). So when Obama says "Iraq didn't cause 9-11," boom, that's the quick answer a frustrated, scared voter who wants the government to Make Things Better needs so he can repeat it when one of us gets into the complexities of life.

Obama's emptiness makes him the perfect candidate for our times because he's basically saying to the voter, "Imagine what you will--I have a pleasant smile, I'm not scary like that guy over there, I'm cool like the cliche of the suave black guy in a suit--look at him, cranky like your grandfather."

We seem to have forgotten that not all Americans are like us, and many Americans vote on what they WANT reality to be. They WANT Obama to be An Agent of Change because then they can feel SOMEthing will change (because things WILL change with him, good God they will). They WANT Obama to just be cool, because then they can claim to have done something GOOD themselves--I voted for a black guy, I've done something that will bring racial equality to our troubled nation!

I just don't see us waking from this nightmare early in November. I go to Realclear and I look at those polls, and I look at the news media reports, and I look at McCain's awful debate performances...and I just don't see a win.

I wish I did.

[unspun]

The only way Barack Obama will be elected President is for us to fail to tell enough voters.

The Post American World of Barack Obama

The Post American World, by Fareed Zakaria

...connecting the dots to show Barack Obama's long-standing,
continuously developing, anti-American alliances...

Barack Obama & the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

Listen to this Interview of James Simpson, by Sandy Rios, Tuesday 9/30 - WYLL 1160AM, Chicago, IL
From http://www.culturecampaign.com/culturecorner.aspx

Simpson documents his research in his article, providing Web links. He provides a rough flow chart.

"CHANGE"

Further corroboration on Obama & The Cloward-Piven Strategy:

Obama, Voter Fraud & Mortgage Meltdown, by James H. Walsh, former federal prosecutor.

On Barack Obama's Marxist connections in Chicago

Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of [Marxist] Socialist 'New Party' In 1996

On Alice Palmer, the South Side's Marxist State Senator, Who Hand Picked Barack Obama to Succeed Her

More on Obama's Marxist alliance with Radical Islamists:

Barack Obama campaigning with taxpayers' money for Raila Odinga, Marxist & pro-Islamist, despotic leader in Kenya

Barack Obama & Khalid Al-Mansour (old Black Panther comrade of Ayers & Dohrn and likely of Alice Palmer) who raised funds to get Obama into Harvard

And then there are... Herbert and Marion Sandler, the Pritzkers, and the "loose lips" of Charles Schumer and Harry Reid (and Henry Paulson is not above suspicion, with his control-freak power play and Goldman Sachs cronyism).

Get these breakthrough items out to everyone you know (or anything even more informative that comes up) -- voters, media, officials and staff of both parties, everyone. We have time if we act now.

[Names Ash Housewares]

That post just put a big grin on the MSM.
Their labors have born much fruit here.

[over3Owithabrain]

Can't argue with you. Wish I could muster up the optimism and logic to do so, but I cannot. Bush basically handed over the keys of the White House to the Democrats.

I'm still doing my duty to vote, but I see the writing on the wall.

[grey_whiskers]

Try looking at the INTERNALS of the polls.

Most of the polls have oversampling of Dems by a greater amount than Obambi's lead.

And don't forget Operation Chaos (DINOs) and PUMAs.

Cheers! Cheers!

[torchthemummy]

I just don't see us waking from this nightmare early in November. I go to Realclear and I look at those polls, and I look at the news media reports, and I look at McCain's awful debate performances...and I just don't see a win.

I understand your overall point but the truth is McCain was the guy that was always the liberal media's favorite bacause was a "maverick" that would cross party lines. The youngest voters will not know him that way but anyone over thirty will - whether they support him or not.

The polls are too erratic, have different questions, sample sizes, party affiliation percentages, type of voter etc. to be too disparate to possibly show an honest average.

If McCain drives home some of the unknowns, radical associations etc. of Obama he is not so much trying to change the minds of those made up but to motivate some that may have been sitting out because of indifference, anger at the Republicans in general or simply waking up from a lifelong MSM fantasy production of objective reality.

This is not over because more people than one may think are going to vote a split ticket that goes for McCain at the top and Dems all the way below; their own comfortable version of balance of powers.

[lentulusgracchus]

State that Obama/Democrats/ACORN caused this meltdown.

Well, that isn't comprehensively true. I accept that the things alleged against ACORN and their intellectual Mephistopheles, namely Saul Alinsky and Frances Fox Piven, are fairly represented in other FR threads and links.

But the larger economic meltdown is much larger than any CRA-enabled CMO sump. It encompasses securitized credit-card and GMAC debt offerings, plus credit-default swaps (the 800-pound gorilla), and a host of other problem areas, any one of which could have individually caused the current credit-freezeup migraine. It was just a race to see which area got screwed up first.

People at some level understand that, and on top of it, many of them like Obama at some level because he's personable and smooth, so that if you try to load the whole mess onto ACORN's and Obama's backs, a) it won't be accurate, and b) people will understand that and dismiss your charges as half-truthful polemic. (I.e. as no better than ACORN's.) You will end up losing traction for your charges, however true, and credibility for yourself.

[lentulusgracchus]

And don't forget Operation Chaos (DINOs) and PUMAs.

If there is a Wednesday-morning surprise and McCain upsets Obama, it'll be the PUMA's voting for McCain. Whether Sarah Palin's conservatism (God bless her!) has found their "off" switch, one can only guess.

They and the Hispanic vote are what Obama hasn't nailed down.

People don't get it, that Obama opened all those offices in Hispanic neighborhoods and states precisely because he wasn't getting current flow through the Chicano and Puerto Rican political leadership cadres. He's been trying to strap around them and hook directly into the Hispanic youth vote -- if he can get them to vote.

It ain't over, guys.

[D-fendr]

it will not be John McCain who defeats him.

With a nod to Serpent Head:

"It's the Obama, stupid!"

The only way he wins is by fraud or by forfeit.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

A very large number of Freepers are not in line with President Bush or Senator McCain. Heck, the only GOP candidates I ever voted for in the primaries were President Reagan and Senator Goldwater. That doesn’t mean that they and I will not be voting for Palin/McCain in the election.

[lodi90]

The problem is “THE 60’s” have been so mythologized over the past decades by the left that for many many folks “60’s radical” is not a deal breaker. Of course this is a Stalinist airbrush of history but with an slumbering public and accomplice LSM it is working.

Our only hope is McCain directly confronts 0bama in the last debate. Ask O why he is allied for decades with a bomb throwing and 2001 flag standing terrorist. Then he must follow it up with a commercial blitz.

[singfreedom]

Nightmare, it is. On Sean Hannity’s radio show the other day, a gentleman called to say that Obama would not pass for a “top secret security clearance” because of his relationship with Ayers. I was stunned, but knew it was true. My hubby used to do the investigative work, during his days in the military, for such security clearances. I knew Obama wouldn't pass.

It is a frightening thought indeed that Obama, as President, would have immediate, unquestioned, access to our most secret secrets, yet on his own merit he would be ineligible for a top secret security clearance.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Senator Obama couldn’t gain entrance into the military if his past associations were known, much less be given access to any type of intelligence or weapons information.

[Darkwolf377]

That post just put a big grin on the MSM. Their labors have born much fruit here.

Yeah, I'm sure Tom Brokaw and Olberman and the rest feel such a sense of accomplishment that one person has a contrary view around FR.

I've never understood why some people don't dig it when someone tells the truth as they see it just because it differs from the prevailing desire. If you want FR to be nothing but a bunch of yes-men, you'll have to just read the other 99% of posts--if a tiny percentage of us don't see this mirage you do, why does that bother you? You're in the majority.

[Darkwolf377]

I'm still doing my duty to vote, but I see the writing on the wall.

Of course. There's no reason not to vote, and anyone who WOULD be dissuaded because someone else senses doom is another of the sheep.

I was never very good about living in denial. But a prediction of bad possibilities rule doesn't rule me. That's for the emotion-based people I have no use for.

[Darkwolf377]

Try looking at the INTERNALS of the polls.

I do. I was telling that to someone just today, in fact.

But come on, if the polls were flipped, we'd be crowing proudly.

We can be saying 'Yeah, but the internals say...' all we like. One thing keeps popping up--we keep saying Obama can't close the sale, but he's been pretty consistently ahead of McCain. And you must be seeing some electoral maps I haven't. And I've seen a half dozen different ones, not one of them with anything even vaguelly hopeful.

[Darkwolf377]

I understand your overall point but the truth is McCain was the guy that was always the liberal media's favorite bacause was a "maverick" that would cross party lines.

Yeah, I was saying long ago "McCain, you are seriously deluded if you think the news media who love you so much are going to support you now." I recall Chris Matthews oozing love for McCain long ago--the last bit I saw on Youtube, you'd think McCain had just bashed Matthews' puppy with a shovel.

McCain was just shockingly unequipped to deal with Obama at these debates. McCain's "suspending his campaign" can now be seen as a complete mistake, and since then he's been failing, and looks it. Obama is calm--like the mannequin he is. That's what these "nonideological" swing voters want.

You're right, of course, we may see people split the vote if McCain and some 527 ads can get people wondering about Obama. But this is cutting it very close.

[Allegra]

Well, that does it then.

I give up.

I'm not going to bother to vote. It's just a waste of time. This thing is over.

Right?

[Darkwolf377]

People don't get it, that Obama opened all those offices in Hispanic neighborhoods and states precisely because he wasn't getting current flow through the Chicano and Puerto Rican political leadership cadres. He's been trying to strap around them and hook directly into the Hispanic youth vote -- if he can get them to vote. It ain't over, guys.

If he gets the white and thw women's votes, it won't matter. And the Hispanic vote isn't going to be enough of a factor in the Bush states he could potentially swing.

[Irene Adler]

Unfortunately, I agree with you. The financial mess has almost cdertainly sealed McCain's fate. How anybody expects McCain to win after the wheels come off the stock market due to financial irresponsibility in money markets, on Bush's watch (no matter that it's not our fault), defeats me. It will be a miracle if McCain wins this election after having been slapped with the financial disaster of the past few weeks.

Sky-high gas prices were bad enough, but McCain seemed to be getting past that situation and perhaps even pulling ahead of Obama. But not after the financial meltdown.

Very sad and very scarey to think of Obama appointing a wagon load of federal judges, who serve for life, from the SC on down. let's all learn how to say, "Goodbye to 250 years' worth of social capital and hello third world" status where elites make out like bandits and everybody else is part of the dependent underclass.

[NoControllingLegalAuthority]

OK, thanks for the despair.

Now, please step aside. The adults with backbone will take it from here.

[lentulusgracchus]

Leftwing grubworm Brancaccio's PBS associates on NOW last Friday were begging to disagree.

It seems Mexican immigration has put New Mexico, Colorado, and Nevada (they think) into play. Obama is making a big lunge for them, trying to bust the Finkelstein Box in the West. But he has to open his own offices to work around the existing cadres, who, being older, are slow to cooperate with a black candidate, it turns out. Older Hispanics are cool to Obama, so he's trying to register and motivate young Hispanics to vote for him.

[Darkwolf377]

A very large number of Freepers are not in line with President Bush or Senator McCain. Heck, the only GOP candidates I ever voted for in the primaries were President Reagan and Senator Goldwater. That doesn’t mean that they and I will not be voting for Palin/McCain in the election.

I'm certainly not voting for McCain out of enthusiasm for his policies; I'm voting for McCain as a way of stopping Obama. It's kind of like using a parachute as opposed to leaping out of the plane without--either way, we're heading for the same place.

[Darkwolf377]

OK, thanks for the despair. Now, please step aside. The adults with backbone will take it from here.

Blah blah blah.

If you're such an adult, why don't you have the self-control to not read my posts? Do you have to respond to every post you disagree with, neurotically?

For an "adult" you sure come off like a spoiled child who can't stand the free flow of opinions.

Why would someone else's opinion cause you "despair"? How is that anything approaching an adult control of one's own emotions?

[Darkwolf377]

How anybody expects McCain to win after the wheels come off the stock market due to financial irresponsibility in money markets, on Bush's watch (no matter that it's not our fault), defeats me.

Too many people have this weird idea that the nuances that make up the truth will somehow get through to people who are so thick-headed they STILL haven't made up their mind who they're going to vote for (i.e. the undecideds).

very scarey to think of Obama appointing a wagon load of federal judges

Back when McCain first got the nomination and people were complaining, my tagline read "The one reason to vote for McCain: SCOTUS, SCOTUS, SCOTUS".

We can all thank Mike Huckabee for cutting into Romney's vote just enough to give us McCain. No Republican would have an easy win in this cycle, and one could say Romney'd be called a fat cat. But he would have, simply put, demolished Obama in the debates about the economy. He would talk rings around him on the subject of what's happening and what can be done about it. He would ENERGIZE people, and Obama's "cool, calm demeanor" would have been exposed as the dullard's silence it is.

What if, what if...

I hope we have some real conservatives ready to run in the midterms. Because if what my friends in finance and business have told me is accurate, the storm's gonna really get wild in the second quarter next year (one friend just reported that his business is booming because people have their budgets now to spend, and they won't have that kind of money when budgets are drawn up NOW for early next year), and Obama's gonna be one clueless community organizer paddling a rowboat atop a tidal wave.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

the storm's gonna really get wild in the second quarter next year (one friend just reported that his business is booming because people have their budgets now to spend, and they won't have that kind of money when budgets are drawn up NOW for early next year), and Obama's gonna be one clueless community organizer paddling a rowboat atop a tidal wave.

This 'poisoned chalice' prediction as to how terrible things will be next year that whoever wins in November will lose in the future, may very well be true, but it does not reduce our obligation to do what is best for our country. Of course, if we lose, we can start the 'Impeach Obama' campaign in anticipation.

[singfreedom]

No, no, NO! I'm going to vote, of course, but I will also try to convince everyone I can that a vote for Obama is just a vote for “the same old same old” Dem. Just like the Dem idiots in Congress! Remember, the Congress is less popular than even President Bush. Congress is the real “bad actor” here! The most unpopular notions in the country are supported the the Democrats.

Then, God forbid, that imbecile does win, I plan to make his life miserable. Email, phone calls, calls to Rush & Hannity, by every avenue available to me, I will let Obama know my displeasure. The media can't protect him forever.

[Darkwolf377]

Of course, if we lose, we can start the 'Impeach Obama' campaign in anticipation.

Talk about a lame silver lining, huh? :(

On the bright side, maybe we can reconstitute as a CONSERVATIVE Repubican party, but first we need a wholesale cleaning of the RNC. I don't see that happening with McCain as the head of the party (how does that work if the candidate doesn't win?).

[Jim Noble]

Somebody wake me from this nightmare.

If 0bama is elected, we are going to have serious, serious problems. Nightmare may not be too strong of a word.

[singfreedom]

I think that’s kinda the point: “the polls” NEVER ARE “flipped” though. Every election I can remember, where polls were a factor, the Dem has had the lead position. That is the reason I can never put much stock in what they say.

[Jim Noble]

Good analysis.

If 0bama is allowed to constitute an administration, there will be serious trouble. The mood of the right opposition will be much darker than it was in 1993-95.

[Allegra]

LOL. I have every intention of voting. I called my county registration office the other day to find out what is taking my absentee ballot so long to get to me. Found out that it was mailed October 2 (Hurricane Ike delayed and backlogged things a few days) and should be here any day now. Believe me, I will complete it and mail it back that very same day and it should get home in plenty of time for the election. No worries!

I'm just poking fun at the doom-and-gloomers who are trying to demoralize the voters here. And they probably don't realize I'm joking and are patting themselves on the back, thinking they've bagged another one for Obama.

No such luck. ;-)

[buffyt]

The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket!

[Darkwolf377]

Every election I can remember, where polls were a factor, the Dem has had the lead position.

Oct 2004 CNN: Bush lead

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/polls/index.html

Not saying that means much except that CNN is no obscure poll, and at this time in the 2004 election they had Bush winning--and he did.

[singfreedom]

Whew, thank goodness! LOL! I REALLY couldn’t see you as the give up and die type, but sometime our “job” here at FReeRepublic is to encourage each other when we get discouraged! Which happens to all of us at one point or another.

YOU be safe, and GO, ALLEGRA-—one of my personal heroines!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

how does that work if the candidate doesn't winDean Burch, Goldwater's GOP Chairman, was out of office in about 6 months. Of course it took longer in some other cases. (While he was chairman some folks called the RNC the 'Dean Burch Society')

[Darkwolf377]

Thanks for the information.

I had problems with him as a candidate (but imagine him debating Obama? wow!), but my pick for RNC chair would be Duncan Hunter.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

At this time I would prefer a technically proficient, nuts and bolts, organizer type Chairman, as opposed to a policy person, unless the chair is a figurehead with actual control with an organizer type. (By the way, McCain would still be the ‘nominal’ party leader, but that means nothing these days.) IMHO Sarah Palin would be the grassroots choice for favorite republican leader.

[Nateman]

I'm not as pessimistic. Racism is out there but its mostly on the democrat side( Our side does not need racism to dislike Obama). Time and time again the polls said “Obama” but we got “Hillary” instead. The enemy is hollering “racism” as loud as it is to try and shame its own side into voting Obama. Figure about 5% of liberals are saying “Obama” to the pollster's to appear enlightened but in the privacy of the booth will vote against him. This plus the tendency of the American voter to pick a split party government makes me believe we stand a good chance of winning.

[Darkwolf377]

The enemy is hollering “racism” as loud as it is to try and shame its own side into voting Obama.

You make a lot of sense regarding the "truthiness" of the polls. The "Racist!" thing is really, really getting old--my only hope is that everyone else is getting as tired as I am by this being the response to every criticism of the guy. Does the average American realize this trap--that it's the ultimate Get Out of Jail Free card for Obama? "The economy sucks? Oh, what a racist you are, trying to blame the greed and the Bush economy on the black man." Zzzzzzzz...

[Nateman]

They know they are not going to change any conservatives mind by yelling “Racism”. Instead they are going to label us “Racist” so that they can tell their own side “If you become racist you have gone over to the Republicans!” It’s really a tactic designed to keep their own racist bunch in line without having to confront them directly. Viewed in this light the republican = racist nonsense actually makes sense.