Colorado use to be red...now we have illegals and liberals from California and we are quickly turning from purple to blue!
Posted on 10/09/2008 10:31:14 PM PDT by Syncro
Tempers flare as Ill. Senate candidates face off
Republican challenger Steve Sauerberg accused incumbent U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin of endangering troops in Iraq by criticizing the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, prompting an outraged response from Durbin as the two debated Thursday night.
''I don't know where the bottom is anymore in your campaign. Why don't you debate the issues?'' Durbin said. ''Common decency still works.''
''It does still work,'' Sauerberg shot back, ''and you should have shown it in your remarks about our troops.''
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Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, is seeking a third term, arguing that he has both the clout and the policies to help Illinoisans.
But Sauerberg, a newcomer to politics, describes Durbin as one of the true insiders who has contributed to failure and gridlock in Washington
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''I do not apologize for bringing to the attention of the people of the United States of America his behaviors that I think have probably led to possibly more troop hazard in Iraq than if he hadn't made them,'' Sauerberg said. ''This emboldens the enemy. This probably puts our soldiers in danger.''
Sauerberg was largely referring to a comment Durbin made in 2005 saying prisoners at Guantanamo Bay were receiving treatment that sounded like something ''done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime.'' The comment made no reference to U.S. troops.
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He also called it ''reaching very, very low'' to question an opponent's patriotism.
(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...
Sauerberg said. ''This emboldens the enemy. This probably puts our soldiers in danger.''
Sauerberg was largely referring to a comment Durbin made in 2005 saying prisoners at Guantanamo Bay were receiving treatment that sounded like something ''done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags or some mad regime.'' The comment made no reference to U.S. troops.
So what if Durbin made no reference to U.S. troops? It still put our soldiers in danger.
That was the point that Sauerberg was making, and it is a valid one.
IMO Durbin and Murtha are traitors.
IMO opinion also. In a sane society they would be tried for it.
Lay it on. The Dem traitors need to hear it and so does our public.
I couldn’t stand Illinois anymore, I had to get out. I moved to the reddest of states (Idaho).
Well, who was allegedly giving this Nazi-like treatment if not the soldiers, AP Stelth (sic) author?
Idaho’s Communist ?
Up in Moscow, yes.
Isn't that sad though? Tells you what kind of state we're in.
Then it was very low of Ms. Pelosi to do the same. And why not call a spade a spade. Patriotism isn't some amorphous concept. You support your government in time of national danger.
Colorado use to be red...now we have illegals and liberals from California and we are quickly turning from purple to blue!
Seriously, we need to stop using those media newsspeak colors. We’re not reds. Reds are communist rodents.
BRING BACK THE HOUSE COMMITTEE ON UNAMERICAN ACTIVITIES!
“I moved to the reddest of states (Idaho).”
Welcome to Idaho...
I dunno, I don’t have the quote on hand, but I do make permanent checks against politicians for such comments and Durbin has such a check ~ in my book.
In osome states this guy is a traitor. In Illinois he is a senator.
Gee...when I read that comment, I thought it was me. I left Illinois for Idaho 7 years ago. I lived most of my life in IL...but NEVER in Cook County.
Odd isn’t it? Everywhere else in the world red equals “left wing” and blue equals the “right wing”
Dick Durbin’s gross comments about our troops should never be forgotten.
What’s wrong with having all of the candidates debate together? There actually are six candidates running for this U.S. Senate seat. I’m a registered Republican, but I will always find it ridiculous when all of the serious, legitimate candidates are not included during all of the debates at every political level from the POTUS all the way down to the most local levels of political office. I always believe in fairness in the political system, and pretending that all of U.S. politics really just involves the Democrats and Republicans will always be silly and unfair to everybody else.
Quite so. I consider it psychological warfare on the part of the media to delibererately disassociate the ever-increasing radicalization of the Democrat party from the color of international Socialism/Communism. But the Republicans didn’t have to swallow being labelled “Reds.” I sure as hell haven’t, and I won’t use it. Red state means Democrat, Blue means Republican. Frankly, if we can’t even win these little battles with our enemies defining us instead of us defining ourselves, we’ve already lost the war.
Unlike Joe Biden; I do question Durbin’s motives AND I question his judgement.
When working my poll sheets pluses and minuses in Chicago’s old 12th ward.(Where by the way I carried Pete Bensinger over Richard J in a mayoral election, 12pct 12th ward) I used to drive the committeeman Richard Anderson nuts because I’d mark my Republicans in blue and the Dems in red. I still challenge the MSM color scheme http://www.theusmat.com/
Dave Leip gets it right:
http://www.uselectionatlas.org/
It still boils my blood to see smart Conservatives swallow the color scheme while the Democrats laugh their asses off knowing they get the joke and the Republicans don’t.
I lived in DuPage. Been in Idaho 6 years now.
“I had to get out [of Illinois].”
It is so discouraging living here, especially being ‘downstate’! I feel like we’re at the mercy of Chicago. Blago’s a disaster, and that is not hyperbole.
Freepers, don't be misled. Sauerberg is a pro-abortion, pro-gun control, pro-Hillarycare, pro-gay rights, tree-hugging RINO. He is a sacrifical lamb put up by the same people who gave us Topinka, and has NO chance of "beating Durbin".
The gutless wonder even caved during the Chicago Tribune candidate meeting and APOLOGIZED for attacking Durbin over his troop statement and then shook Dick's hand and "thanked" him for his "excellent work" on veteran's issues.
What a joke. Right now he can't even break 30% in the polls and could lose every county in the state. I'd LOVE to see arrogant socialist blowhard Durbin thrown out of office this year, but Sauerberg is not the guy who can do it. Read today's post about LaHood to see what happens when you support combine candidates. By voting for him, all you'll be doing is giving conservative votes to a RINO and encourging the ILGOP to run more gutless RINOs because the base will rubber stamp. Please don't do that.
Sauerberg backs down when forced to confront Durbin
Sauerberg falls behind Durbin by 34 points
Sauerberg or Koppie for U.S. Senate -- who the best to Defeat Dick Durbin?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2099382/posts
So in summary:
Sauerberg is a career medical doctor who has no experience or political record for the nation’s highest legislative office. On the issues, he supports keeping abortion legal, favors gun control measures like the assault weapons ban, pro-gay rights, pro-UN, supports federal involvement in health care, welcomes free trade (even with communist nations), supports tax cuts, favors off shore drilling, is pro-WOT, believe in global warming, opposes the bailout, is vaguely against “blanket” amnesty, supports the department of education and NOLB, and is open to confirming just about anyone, regardless of ideology.
Koppie is a retired senior jumbo jet captain and farmer who has long been active in politics -- having held both elected and appointed office -- and is well qualified to be U.S. Senator, with a record of proven leadership. On the issues, he is unabashedly 100% pro-life, strongly supports 2nd amendment rights, opposes the gay agenda, strongly believes in U.S. sovereignty, opposes the feds being involved in health care and education, is strongly in favor of tax cuts and spending reductions, favors off shore drilling and ANWR, is pro-WOT, opposes the cult of global warming, opposes the bailout, is clearly against amnesty, and has promised to vote to confirm ONLY originalist and strict constructionist judges.
Which one would you want replacing Durbin and representing us in the U.S. Senate?
The sad fact is alot of conservatives HAVE accepted the MSM talking points (some freepers here even heard the MSM line that Bush wouldn't be President without Katherine Harris so much, that they drank the kool-aid and figured he "owed" her a Senate seat because she "gave" him the Presidency)
This is very apparent in Illinois where Family Taxpayers Network and other conservative groups have been "proudly" using the "red" idenity, and it's worked! They're certainly gotten results to make Illinois "red" like they want. Combine candidates like LaHood, Topinka, and Sauerberg are working hard to make Illinois "redder" than ever.
Thanks for the heads up!
On Novenber 4th you carry your precinct with the guy your pushing then talk to me other wise ...I’ll bet you Durbin will carry your precicnt... phoney...
I remember a line in vogue up until the fall of the Soviet Union, “Better DEAD than Red.”
I’m turning green, I’m gonna puke over this red state business. Red is for commies.
Seriously, we need to stop using those media news speak colors. We’re not reds.
Reds are communist rodents. ---fieldmarshaldj
It’s the idiots in our party that need to do the apologizing... and take back the color the left stole from us... blue.
No need to apologize Jan, just spread the word. ;)
You haven't become one of those crazy environmentalist wackos, have you?
I will gladly spread the word!
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