Skip to comments.McCain to be in Davenport, IA Saturday October 11 (UPDATE photos from 10/11/08 (today) Post 63)
Posted on 10/09/2008 8:47:59 PM PDT by Aliska
It was in the QCTimes the other day but wasn't confirmed. Just heard on radio. They said it would be at Central High School, but looks like it may have been changed to the River Center, downtown Davenport. Doors open 8:30 am; Program 10:30am.
Tickets are required and will be available at Scott County Republican Party Headquarters Thursday at 9:00 am. Headquarters are located at 1880 E 54th Street, Dav, IA. The phone number is (563) 332-9666. Also have another phone number (563) 823-5854.
When I pick up our tickets, if there are any changes, will post an update.
I'm sorry but it isn't clear at this point if Sarah Palin will appear as well. It doesn't appear from two articles on the kwqc.com link that Sarah will accompany him.
Wow, their polling must be saying something pretty different than what we’ve been led to believe.
Yes, it looks like Iowa is in play again or small gap; the local paper had a poll last week or so showing an Obama win, but they lean liberal. Apart from about three major cities and a few medium, the rest of the state is small town and rural.
The last data I saw show that Sarah and John area only ten points down in Iowa.
Being in IA is foolishness. OH, CO, VA, NV and PA are the States McCain should be camped out in (and PA looks about gone now too, after the lastest SV (R) poll out of there shows Obama up 10pts)...
Yes, it would because if it weren't for Obama's unexpected initial win in the primaries, things could be a lot different now. I think there are only 7 electoral votes. My area is heavily blue, so I don't have a feel for the mood in the rest of the state.
There were tons of Obama signs around town early on, but haven't seen many lately, not that they will have changed in the metropolitan area, don't know why that is, maybe you have to buy Obama signs, and I can probably get a McCain one for free but am hesitant to put it in my yard, might anyway.
He’s a maverick all right, don’t know what he expects to gain in IA myself, must have a reason. Those other states are more important now.
One appearance is just that - would not be surprised to see a MI appearance in the near future - just as the cookie crumbles.
You should be on their staff smarty, they are just being so dumb.
It ain't over 'til it's over, not real hopeful at this point. But no sense in giving up either.
The MSM hatchet jobs, especially on Sarah, plus the blowback from Bush haven't helped. It wouldn't be so bad if they just report the truth, but any little thing, they blow up like it is some terrible scandal.
She's still drawing huge crowds everywhere she goes so that tells me that despite all their efforts to cut her off at the pass and what I'm seeing on the web, the people, and not just the religious supporters, can't get enough of her.
He has been calling democrats for Obama and getting a lot of "undecided" answers from Democrats. Remember, these are calls from local people to local people. His take is the undecideds will be votes for McCain. They won't admit it to their own people.
My thoughts on McCain in IA.. He needs to stay away and send Palin. He ignored the caucuses and has been against Ethanol. Right or wrong, he isn't liked in IA because of those two issues... We are probably in trouble if it comes down to IA... Just my two cents...
I think I read in the on line Clinton Herald that Obama was to be in Clinton tomorrow..I am originally from Clinton..too bad our town is going to be sullied by the likes of him..Clinton is a river city and just north of Davenport..I went to college in Davenport.
I do not believe Palin is going to be there, no.
something odd in the wind though... none of the satellite voting projects the dems have cooked up have garnered many votes... in this county anyway.
and absentee ballot voting (requests and votes sent in to date) are actually DOWN from 2004.
Iowa has been extremely close the past two Presidential elections - very, very close. It also borders Minnesota and Wisconsin, which are play, as well as the Omaha area (the Obamessiah is making a push to steal one of Nebraska's electoral votes).
Fortunately, they're apparently too busy to be hanging around FR.
Things are looking quite good for a McCain/Palin win next month. The only way they lose is if enough supposed conservatives buy into this media nonsense and stay home. If we turn out like we did in 2004, Obama/Biden lose.
Thanks for that info. Why would the Obamessiah be in Iowa, where he's spent the better part of two years, if he's supposedly so far ahead?
People really need to start looking past the public polls.
McCain is basically dark in over a third of the competitive States via TV - We have virtually no effective 527 ads making up for this.....
And yet McCain is in IA, a meaningless State by about any and all virtual math calculations.... It is OH, VA, CO, FL with PA as the only fall back option (and that looks out of reach as of the lastest "R" poll to be released showing us down 10pts there).
Everyone, please take note. McCain/Palin are supposedly trailing badly, if you believe the media and a bunch of handwringing drama queens here on FR. So where are they campaigning this next week?
PA (8 Oct)
Blue font means the Dems won that state in 2004; red means the GOP won it. IA really should probably be a neutral color, since Bush won the White House without it and then with it (2004).
Any objective observer still thinking McCain's worried about getting blown out electorally? Worried about shoring up his base? :-D
Yes, VA in past years wouldn't be on this list (by the way, where's NC?) But if I had to guess, this will be their last visit to VA. If they do more later on, then it will likely mean VA really is at a dead heat or close to it.
By the way, where's supposedly vulnerable Nevada and Colorado? They weren't on yesterday's article about the campaign and RNC advertising expenditures, and they're not on this round of visits. I'm not saying they're no longer up for grabs, but they certainly don't seem to be a major focus right now.
I'd love to see what you're basing this claim on. It's not an accurate representation of what's transpiring. There is also no way on God's green Earth that McCain/Palin are down by ten points in PA. I was going to address the rest of your points, but if you're that gullible it really seems pointless.
Good deal that you’re going. I live in the QC’s, but I have prior engagements on Saturday so I won’t be able to go.
Let us know how it goes, OK?
Great post sir. I’m pingin Morgan in Denver to give us her informed take on Colorado. She has excellent insight due to her close association with an elected and high ranking Democrat there.
Help out an ol’ outsider, please. QC stands for Quad Cities, right? What are the four cities?
I’m looking forward to hearing what she has to say. My speculation is that campaign polls have shown slight but steady movement in McCain’s favor in CO. I doubt he’s out of the woods yet, but I’d bet things are looking pretty good. I’m pinging LS, as he’s always interested in hearing about CO.
Address it all you want - Here is some reality first - PA has not gone GOP in over 20 years at POTUS. Its most recent state-wide elections it went DEM both, at Senate and Gov levels...
Polls are polls - With that said, the lastest SV (Republican polling firm) has Obama up 14pts + - That was a LV poll with a large sample of 1200 - This same SV that showed McCain up 5pts in PA back in March of this year -
The last 5 polls out of PA have Obama up 10pts plus - All of them - That doesn't mean Obama will win by 10pts come election day.......but it means the State is becoming fastly out of reach. Obama leads in the last 20 polls taken out of PA.
This isn't being negative - This is facing reality - Reality is McCain needs to hold VA, OH and CO (we will win FL). If he holds those 3 States we win. Being off in IA, where Iowians already don't like him (over his ethanol positions) is foolishness this late......
QC stands for Quad Cities, which are Davenport, IA, Moline, IL, Rick Island, Il and Bettendorf, IA.
ROCK Island, not Rick Island, you dope.
God, I wish I drank coffee.
+1 on this type of thinking - If McCain was in IA doing such, that is one thing. He wasn't.
AGAIN, AND WITH FEELING:
Why, since you’re soooo smart aren’t you on their staff? They are making fatal mistakes.
From Sept. 30 to Oct. 6, Obama spent more than $20 million on television ads in 17 states including more than $3 million in Pennsylvania and more than $2 million each in Florida, Michigan and Ohio. McCain in that same time frame spent just $7.2 million in 15 states. Even when the Republican National Committee's independent expenditure spending in Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin is factored in (a total of $5.3 million), Obama still outspent the combined GOP forces by roughly $8 million in the last week alone.
So you can keep playing defense only. That's a strategy for losers in my book, especially when facing an opponent with so much money. Meanwhile the GOP is making plays at blue states PA, MI and WI (very, very close here the past two elections), plus the purplish IA (red last election, blue the one before).
You can think whatever you like. This is not a campaign trailing by ten points in PA, nor is it a campaign trailing badly nationwide. It's a campaign playing chess against an extremely well-financed Marxist with an adoring media.
Again, this is not a campaign sweating about shoring up its base. It's a campaign going after a supposedly invincible, well-financed opponent who, in reality, has some serious difficulty electorally.
Look at the crowds for McCain-Palin.
(Double the capacity of the chosen venues, which were generous for stump speeches to begin with. And that includes blue states like Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and California.)
Look at the attendance for Obama: he has to have rock stars share the stage in order to draw attendees.
Listen to the clips of Obama: cut off as he finishes speaking to mask the sound of crickets. Compare to the loud thunderous roars of large crowds for McCain-Palin.
The media is panicking, which is why they are playing the race card in mid-October already.
And the real dirt on Obama hasn't hit the mainstream yet.
(Reminds me of the old Mission: Impossible episode with the bunch of ex-Nazis who are following the orders of some one they think is "Martin Bormann" (who is really a mannequin), while the *real* leader is someone else. The MI team exposes the impostor and the episode closes with him whining and pleading "let me be your Fuehrer" as the Nazis close in on him...)
I disagree with DevSix on this topic, Grey, but he ain’t no troll.
Read the internals of the polls; talk to the GOP workers *on the ground*; look at the size of the McCain-Palin rallies (campaigns losing by > 10% do not draw orgiastic crowds of that size); look at the anti-Acorn investigations; talk to the PUMAs; remember the Dem primaries in Pennsylvania.
Nice try, though.
As they say on the crevo threads, "confidence comes from consilience."
If you have multiple independent converging lines of evidence, that's good. But the polls are the easiest thing to fake: crowd size and the enthusiasm (smugness) of the MSM is the hardest.
And the MSM is leveling charges of racism and voter intimidation, instead of crowing.
Agree with you here, completely. Except I see the McCain camp and RNC playing kids checkers....not chess. Though, Gov Palin deserves credit, she at least seems willing to engage, to fight. But the RNC seems continually plain scared and McCain two debate performances speak volumes.
McCain's debate performances were yawners. They were also what I expected (although I did hope to hear about Franklin Raines and Johnson!). But I'm sorry, debates are extremely over-rated. Most people watching have already made up their minds, and we all know how the media will report the results. Has a Republican EVER won a debate? (I'm kidding here, but not by much.)
Sure we can.
Agreed - But that is what makes this so frustrating to watch - The facts are on our side on this. This situation is directly tied to the DEM leadership (right into Obama).
Why wasn't the RNC and McCain on the air immediately setting the premise on these issues. Suspending his campaign was childish. It was playing checkers on a chess board.
The RNC should have hung the current energy prices and the current DOW around the necks of the DEMs. It was made to order for us......to lay out and aggressive, systematic ad campaign taking them to task. Yet, we didn't, and now we have allowed a false-premise to take root (just like the Iraq/WMD false premise was allowed to take root with NO response).
Glad to hear this - I'm here in N.C., and it is nothing but Obama ads - I have family in MI and they tell me it is 10 to 1 Obama ads up there as well - Regardless, MI will go Obama and NC will go McCain.....
But I've been speaking more to a national message - A national level, effective, aggressive, systematic campaign, that I just don't see out of Team McCain nor the RNC. The RNC is constantly a day late in terms of setting a premise. They constantly allow the DEMs and MSM to set a false premise before they ever even think to engage it seems. That is foolishness.
Changing a premise, once set (right or wrong) is hard.
Palin needs to be in Virginia ASAP! And Florida....
We're in agreement on the latter portion of your post. That was a colossal blunder by the Bush administration (and I say this as one who does not regret voting for Bush/Cheney twice). I do not apply the same criticism to McCain and the RNC yet, because they still have time. I have seen some encouraging bits and pieces, some jabs here and there. But if they do not effectively sell the message outlined above, either tactically in key areas or - preferably - nationally, then they will have missed a major opportunity to damage the Dems. Whether it will cost McCain/Palin the election remains to be seen.
Palin and McCain just came from FL, and they’ll be making two appearances in VA on Monday.
They have different polling numbers than the public ones, and they know all about available resources. This is not a campaign that feels it's losing.
>>Palin and McCain just came from FL, and theyll be making two appearances in VA on Monday.<<
Thanks, I knew about Monday. Not a minute too soon. Rasmussen has him gaining in FL for what it’s worth. I agree with other posters that he can’t afford to lose VA, FL, OH, CO, MO.
It doesn’t make sense to me that he surrendered MI but is spending time in IA.
I think McCain would be doing well in a “normal” October, but there are too many idiots who want to punish him for their 401Ks going down, when it’s not his fault at all.
Ping, in case you missed this thread