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Don't believe polls - here is why
ELECTORAL VOTE (this very day in 2004) ^ | 10 09 2008 | drzz

Posted on 10/09/2008 11:03:17 AM PDT by drzz

ELECTORAL VOTE

October 9, 2008

KERRY 280 BUSH 248

Does anyone remember the Kerry's landslide that came afterwards ? Oh... wait...


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1 posted on 10/09/2008 11:03:18 AM PDT by drzz
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To: drzz

I’m figuring McCain-Palin will beat Barack HUSSEIN Saetoro...er...Obama by six to ten million votes and maybe more.


2 posted on 10/09/2008 11:06:15 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Barack HUSSEIN Obama. If the libs don't like his name then why support him?)
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To: drzz

OCTOBER 9, 2004
Kerry wins by a significant margin according to polls
OCTOBER 9, 2008
Obama wins by a significan margin according to polls


3 posted on 10/09/2008 11:06:41 AM PDT by drzz (I)
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To: drzz

Was there any talk of a landslide 4 years ago?


4 posted on 10/09/2008 11:07:03 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: drzz

They just said Obama up by 8 in Virginia. Sorry, don’t believe it. But McCain-Palin need to come to Virginia soon for a rally. Very soon.


5 posted on 10/09/2008 11:07:13 AM PDT by chippewaman
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To: drzz
I remember the "base" being fired up for that election, but not as "FIRED UP" as they are now!!!

I have NEVER seen the base so excited!

6 posted on 10/09/2008 11:07:43 AM PDT by bayliving (Democrats = Enemy of the State)
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To: drzz

Anyone who fails to vote or chages his vote because of polls should have his voting rights revoked. Sadly, fools cannot be excluded from the voting process.


7 posted on 10/09/2008 11:07:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: drzz

So...
It would appear that Gallup, Marist COllege, and the much-maligned Zogby called that race correctly.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 11:08:08 AM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D. - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: drzz
It is amazing how the same lies are repeated but yet many here still fall for it.
9 posted on 10/09/2008 11:08:37 AM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: drzz
Are you saying this is Bush's Fault?

But seriesly you make a good point. Don't trust these polls people. They are not accurate. The same thing happened in 2004 and 2000. Democrats would love for you to go quietly into the night. Don't surrender without a fight!

10 posted on 10/09/2008 11:08:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Sarah. We crave red meat. Red meat!)
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To: chippewaman
Your prayers have been answered.

They will be in Richmond next Monday.

11 posted on 10/09/2008 11:09:03 AM PDT by bayliving (Democrats = Enemy of the State)
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To: drzz

ACORN has obviously falsely registered MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of voters and obviously shows them as registered DEMOCRATS. The pollsters then see these waves of democratic registrations and “fix” their numbers to reflect what they THINK will be the voting demographics. Only those people won’t be showing up to vote, so the democratic turnout is being GREATLY exaggerated, which means McCain may well be ahead in a legitimate poll.


12 posted on 10/09/2008 11:09:56 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: GingisK

Agreed! I would also tell people to keep contributing and donating as well.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 11:10:39 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: chippewaman
They just said Obama up by 8 in Virginia. Sorry, don’t believe it. But McCain-Palin need to come to Virginia soon for a rally. Very soon.

They're going to be in Virginia Beach on Monday.

14 posted on 10/09/2008 11:10:51 AM PDT by Terabitten (Wall Sreet started a fire -- now LET THEM BURN.)
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To: chippewaman

THEY’RE COMING!!

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Calendar/


15 posted on 10/09/2008 11:11:32 AM PDT by KansasGirl (READ MY LIPSTICK, OBAMA IS JUST CREEPY!)
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To: Redbob

“...much-maligned Zogby.”

LOL!

It always strikes me as funny, that the guy who has consistently gotten it right is the target of so many ignorant attacks.

Oh well, just shows that bigots hate truth.


16 posted on 10/09/2008 11:11:46 AM PDT by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendments.)
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To: GingisK
Sadly, fools cannot be excluded from the voting process.

Ain't that the truth!

17 posted on 10/09/2008 11:11:47 AM PDT by Devilinbaggypants (Audaces fortuna iuvat.)
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To: drzz

Gore had a narrow lead in 2000:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2000_Oct_24/ai_66305753

In the article above:

Among the states in Harris Interactive’s October poll, Al Gore holds a 262 to 122 Electoral College advantage over George Bush. Overall, including best estimates for states not in the Harris Interactive poll, it is estimated that Gore holds a 317 to 221 advantage over Bush, with 270 needed to win. According to Harris Interactive analysts, it is important to recognize that Gore’s advantage is based on very narrow leads in a few large states:

— Florida (25 Electoral College votes), Gore leads by 49% to 43% in October,
down from 52% to 43% in September.

— Missouri (11), Gore leads by just 48% to 44%.

— New Jersey (15), Gore leads by 48% to 40%, down from 58% to 34% in
September.

— Ohio (21), Gore leads by just 48% to 45%, down slightly from 49% to 44%.

— Washington (11), Gore leads by just one point (45% to 44%).


18 posted on 10/09/2008 11:11:51 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: drzz

I also remember that, on Election Day itself, Kerry had already won, as evidenced by exit polls.


19 posted on 10/09/2008 11:13:14 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: GLDNGUN

It is clear that Obama and the other rats are trying to steal the election.


20 posted on 10/09/2008 11:13:44 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: drzz
They pull this garbage EVERY SINGLE ELECTION SEASON. And every time, a certain subset of conservatives falls for it.

Just remember the Wellstone funeral in 2002....
21 posted on 10/09/2008 11:14:00 AM PDT by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. They're meant to shape public opinion, not measure it.)
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To: drzz
Even better, check this out, they had Kerry winning on November 1st: KERRY 298, BUSH 231. It wasn't until November 3rd that they had Bush pulling ahead.
22 posted on 10/09/2008 11:14:02 AM PDT by Azzurri
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To: drzz
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23 posted on 10/09/2008 11:14:12 AM PDT by CommieCutter (I'm voting for Sarah.......and that other guy.)
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To: drzz

To any reasonable, patriotic, logical American, who to vote for is obvious.

The liberal media has always tried to portray a picture of the immense numbers of supporters, yet, abortion is legal because of a few activist judges, and it is the same story for gay marriage. The millions upon millions of liberal supporters just does not happen.

The MSM is hell bent on taking the conservative base for a ride and making us believe that our vote will not count because so many more liberals have already anointed The One as president. This race is not over. Fortunately the attention span of most libs is days, no more than a week. The later all of the skeletons come out of Obambi’s closet, the more likely a landslide on the conservative side is.


24 posted on 10/09/2008 11:16:07 AM PDT by GauchoUSA
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To: drzz

well i sent them 20 bucks this month (all i can afford) and already voted via absentee voting


25 posted on 10/09/2008 11:18:15 AM PDT by DM1
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To: GingisK
Anyone who fails to vote or chages his vote because of polls should have his voting rights revoked. Sadly, fools cannot be excluded from the voting process.

How about the [Republican] MORONS in Florida in 2000 that walked away from the polls before voting because the networks called the state early for Gore, while polls were still open?

The Democrat party does not have a monopoly on stupid constituents. More of them, yes, but not all of them.

I'm voting and I don't give a crap how far ahead or behind my candidate is.

26 posted on 10/09/2008 11:19:36 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: bayliving

McCain will be in Richmond next Monday. All FReepers in the area please “ride to the sound of the guns”. Opps, shouldn’t mention General Phil Sheridan’s quote in Richmond. (Sorry, didn’t want to open old wounds).

How about where is General Lee when you need him?


27 posted on 10/09/2008 11:20:04 AM PDT by Dream Warrior (Will someone wake up Senator McCain!)
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To: drzz

Obama is the biggest threat to this country that I can remember

Just the fact he is running is a disaster

McCain should be burying him in the polls

Forget the Bradley effect —McCain should be way ahead without it

There is no way the MSM will ever get righted

They are stocked to the gills with left wingers and the majority of Americans are led like sheep


28 posted on 10/09/2008 11:20:35 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: chippewaman

The McCain/Palin rally here in WI today was fantastic - we got the former Mr. Across the Aisle slapping Democrats heads like an angry Badger today...he’s lit ‘em up here!


29 posted on 10/09/2008 11:20:59 AM PDT by mdk1960
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To: Antoninus
And every time, a certain subset of conservatives falls for it.

That subset being the MORON subset.

30 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:08 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: chippewaman

“They just said Obama up by 8 in Virginia. Sorry, don’t believe it. But McCain-Palin need to come to Virginia soon for a rally. Very soon”.

...They’ll be here in Richmond, VA at 1:00 Monday at the Arthur Ashe Center. I don’t buy the 8 points either. I don’t see the ground game that Kerry and Gore had which I think is a big indicator.


31 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:22 AM PDT by albie
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To: chippewaman

The new Virginia poll is from PPP - a Democrat pollster.


32 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:29 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: drzz

33 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:47 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: savedbygrace
I also remember that, on Election Day itself, Kerry had already won, as evidenced by exit polls.

And his campaign manager, that afternoon, said "May I be the first to call you Mr. President?"

LOL! He was also the last.

34 posted on 10/09/2008 11:21:47 AM PDT by AU72
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To: Azzurri
Actually the exit polling was wrong too on November 3rd. I remember a stunned Britt Hume saying "I don't understand it, the vote tallies do not match the exit polling".
35 posted on 10/09/2008 11:22:25 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: Azzurri
It wasn't until November 3rd that they had Bush pulling ahead.

Actually the exit polling was wrong too on November 3rd. I remember a stunned Britt Hume saying "I don't understand it, the vote tallies do not match the exit polling".

36 posted on 10/09/2008 11:22:54 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: drzz

That is a weird site that chooses the most recent poll, a single poll, to assign a state, and it assigns state in a hard yes or no fashion (only tied states are listed as up for grabs). That projection was actually dead on— the states Kerry lost were within MOE in the poll and on Election Day.


37 posted on 10/09/2008 11:25:42 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: drzz
Wasn't Obama up in the NH polls by 8-10 points the night before the primary and Hillary trounced him?

Never underestimate the Bradley Effect.

38 posted on 10/09/2008 11:26:16 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Bradley Effect vs. Voter Fraud. Game on.)
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To: do the dhue

>>Anyone who fails to vote or chages his vote because of polls should have his voting rights revoked. Sadly, fools cannot be excluded from the voting process.

Too bad dead people can’t...I’m just sayin’


39 posted on 10/09/2008 11:26:29 AM PDT by Just_RC (I see dead people)
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To: mdk1960
we got the former Mr. Across the Aisle slapping Democrats heads like an angry Badger today...he’s lit ‘em up here!

all well and good... but where is this fired-up guy during the debates?

40 posted on 10/09/2008 11:26:29 AM PDT by latina4dubya (self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: drzz

Zogby’s special sauce. The Democrats used inflated poll results as “proof” that the election had been “stolen”; they wouldn’t admit that the books were cooked to supress the vote “it’s already been lost, Republicans”.


41 posted on 10/09/2008 11:27:25 AM PDT by weegee (Obama's a uniter?"I want you to argue with them (friends,neighbors,Republicans) & get in their face")
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To: chippewaman

Donate and volunteer. Go to your local McCain HQ this weekend.

No football games on TV. Sorry. Watch the Sunday night game.


42 posted on 10/09/2008 11:28:45 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: drzz
When considered in concert with the massive voter fraud with which ACORN appears to be intimately involved, I honestly believe this is just laying the groundwork for stealing the election.

In Gore's and Kerry's cases, I think the Republican margin of victory was substantially greater than the vote count showed, and that there were simply not enough fradulent votes to make up the difference, hence the Democrat's general disbelief at the Republican victory.

This time, however, they seem to be pulling out the stops in favor of garnering an overwhelming percentage of the vote, even if the votes/voters have to be fabricated.

43 posted on 10/09/2008 11:29:43 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: drzz
Amen to all of the above posts! All polls are propaganda. There's no way to know who's doing better. Asking approximately a 1,000 people for whom they will vote can not tell you how 100-150 million people will vote. They couldn't tell you in 2000 or 2004, and they aren't telling you now.
44 posted on 10/09/2008 11:31:04 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: mdk1960

Good to hear.


45 posted on 10/09/2008 11:31:45 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: drzz

OCTOBER 9, 2004
Kerry wins by a significant margin according to polls
OCTOBER 9, 2008
Obama wins by a significan margin according to polls

History repeats itself.

The MSM are already saying if Obama loses it’s because of racism. These junk polls propping up Hussein are going to cause riots when he loses.


46 posted on 10/09/2008 11:33:01 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: AU72

A couple of years ago, I was in Boston on business. A cabbie told me an interesting tale, which I later found out is true in concept, though I can’t confirm the specific details of the event he described.

As he drove me past the State House, he said there is a side door into the building that traditionally is reserved for entry only by the President of the United States. Sometime after Kerry was defeated in 2004, he traveled to the State House to make a speech or some other business. He actually tried to enter through that door. They would not let him walk through it, and he was forced to walk around to a different entrance.

That was the cabbie’s story anyway.


47 posted on 10/09/2008 11:35:49 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Just_RC
lol

I see dead people (your tagline)

I see dead people too and they are voting.

48 posted on 10/09/2008 11:38:58 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Azzurri

We stomped Kerry here (+5) in Florida but we worked HARD at it with lots of volunteers. Kerry flooded FL with MoveON.com paid thugs.

Soros decided this year to attack the markets (shorting) after Obama,Ayers, ACRON put Cloward-Piven in place after infecting Fannie & Freddie to spread garbage mortgages.

Obama is a FAR less attractive candidate than Kerry in FL. Obama will get fewer Jewish voters and we are going to get at least 20% of white Hillary Democrats if not more.

Donate and volunteer for McCain-PALIN 2008


49 posted on 10/09/2008 11:41:55 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: GLDNGUN

The thing you have to worry about...is that falsely registered new voters...do actually vote.

What I see here....is a vast land of opportunity for lawsuits after this election. Ten college kids could dismantle an entire county listing of registered voters and within 30 days....show who actually exists and who doesn’t. Those guys who vote twice or more....are going find themselves in a courtroom....spending several thousand dollars on legal costs....and then finding themselves in some kind of jail situation for two months. Its just not worth it.

And the candidate who won? He has to sit there while several thousand of his supporters are facing court. Here in spring 2009....I’m expecting a very organized effort to put threat of jail into the hearts of 5,000 Americans.


50 posted on 10/09/2008 11:46:27 AM PDT by pepsionice
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