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States With Worst Budget Shortfalls
Business Week/Yahoo ^ | October 8, 2008 | Prashant Gopal

Posted on 10/09/2008 6:07:35 AM PDT by PDMiller

The Golden State, which recently scrambled to fill a $15 billion budget gap, still may not be able to meet its payroll without help.

California is going to Washington, D.C., to ask for $7 billion to cover its budget shortfall. Otherwise it won't be able to pay for its teachers, cops, firemen, and other essential services. Unfortunately, California won't be alone. A number of other states are experiencing a huge dive in tax revenue and could be going cap in hand to Uncle Sam alarmingly soon. How bad could it get? The potential cost for all the 31 states facing both major and minor shortfalls could be as much as $53.4 billion.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Maryland; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bailout; bailoutline; bankinglist; budget; cuts; financelist; gravytrain; moneylist; soupline; state; taxandspend; taxes; topten
Interesting Read. Note that cuts are the norm, but Maryland (like Michigan) is trying a tax increase, which is failing miserably.
1 posted on 10/09/2008 6:07:35 AM PDT by PDMiller
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To: PDMiller
I have a hard time feeling sorry for any state that gets into a fiscal mess, especially CA. Their spending is out of control and they need to have the guts to reign things in via spending cuts. Whatever the case, I fail to see why I should come to CA (or any other state's) aid with my tax dollars. You spent yourself into this mess, you either tax your way out of it or cut back on spending.

This is not a federal problem...states brought it upon themselves. Everyone runs to Uncle Sam to solve their problems. I have to laugh when I see those TV ads by WeCanSolveIt begging to have clean energy within 10 years. While the organization's name implies a group designed to solve problems, all it is capable of is begging the gov’t to solve the problem for them. A better name is WeCantSolveCrapSoYouDoItForUs.

2 posted on 10/09/2008 6:22:55 AM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: PDMiller

Jodi Rell, governor of CT, has already primed the tax pumps saying we are in for a shortfall of tax revenues for the fiscal year. Cuts will come but so will new taxes. The Govt. never gives up. It never wanes. It never sleeps. It NEVER, EVER thinks that your money is yours. It always sees the dollar as theirs; they just let us use them for a while.


3 posted on 10/09/2008 6:32:30 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: PDMiller

Of course they put essential services on the chopping block. Pork and nonessential services are not on the table for discussion. Discretionary spending is, well, discretionary, and the pols have exercised the discretion not to talk about it.


4 posted on 10/09/2008 6:34:43 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: PDMiller

Did you notice that most of these states have been controlled by the Dim Rats for years. Plus the Dim Wit voters have passed dozens of feel good initiatives...


5 posted on 10/09/2008 6:36:15 AM PDT by tubebender (Why do we drive a on a Parkway but park on a Driveway)
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To: PDMiller

governor jerry brown unionized all california state employees before leaving office.

we’re living with the consequences.

the police and sheriffs are crooked and do as little as they can get by with.

the prison union is famous.


6 posted on 10/09/2008 6:38:53 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: PDMiller

Gimme Gimme Gimme Gimme


7 posted on 10/09/2008 6:42:46 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: PDMiller

North Carolina Governor Jim Easley bought a new $9 million jet airplane for the state, but when the public found out he canceled the order. What a slime ball.


8 posted on 10/09/2008 6:43:07 AM PDT by TommyDale (I) (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: PDMiller

STAT! We need another fairy tail to throw gazillions at, ta hell with the voters.


9 posted on 10/09/2008 6:44:20 AM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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10 posted on 10/09/2008 7:32:43 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Baldwin/Castle 2008 - Gilmore for Senator from Virginia 2008)
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California is indeed turning into another Mexico. It may not be a bad idea to bankrupt the state and start over.
11 posted on 10/09/2008 7:37:11 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: PDMiller
The biggest problem with these states, as well as almost every other state, is that the politicians will always keep the wealth redistribution programs fully funded while cutting the programs they were originally tasked with maintaining.

Almost every politician wants to keep buying the votes to keep them in office and sticking it to the tax payers to punish them for not wanting to give up more of their hard-earned wages to Socialism.

12 posted on 10/09/2008 8:05:51 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: PDMiller

Most of these states have large illegal immigrant populations. Could be a contributing factor.


13 posted on 10/09/2008 8:08:54 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: PDMiller

kalifornia is going down the tubes because:

1. the state spends wildly during booms and expects to continue spending during downs.

2. these groups control kalifornia:

a. unions. governor jerry brown unionized all state employees. their services are over-compensated and under-performed.

the prison union demands special attention.

b. indian tribes and their casinos. money speaks. prostitution, drugs, crime increase local police budgets nearby.

c. trial lawyers. always liberal-socialist. always destructive.

d. judges. mostly liberal-socialist. destroy the family environment.

e. hollywood, silicon valley etc college-educated leftists.

f. social services and medical coverage of illegals.

g. very high concentration of foreign-born who vote democrat for services. once the extended family producers are landed, they send home for their elderly. the ethnic and religious groups’ lawyers get them apartments, social services, etc.

h. enviro whackos.

did i forget anything?


14 posted on 10/09/2008 8:14:37 AM PDT by ken21 (people die and you never hear from them again.)
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To: PDMiller

Cut the salaries of all public employees across the board by 20%. That will make a huge dent. Cut their benefits and pensions. States should go bankrupt if that’s what it takes to renegotiate a contract.


15 posted on 10/09/2008 8:56:51 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: PDMiller

Florida Budget gap (as a % of the total budget): 19.9%

Gap: $5.1 billion

The Florida housing slump is one of the worst in the nation and only appears to be getting worse. The $66 billion Florida budget for the coming year is about $6 billion less than the one approved the previous year. It includes a $332 million reduction in public school spending and cuts to state hospitals, nursing homes, and various social programs.

Great, just great. On the other hand, our winters are warm.

16 posted on 10/09/2008 11:19:37 AM PDT by GOPJ (Derivative traders HAVE MADE MORE MONEY THAN EXISTS - Bailouts & rate cuts to ZERO won't work.)
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To: PDMiller

I wonder how much it’s going to cost when foreclosed property owners don’t send in tax payments. Will the banks be able to cover them?


17 posted on 10/09/2008 5:45:08 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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To: AndyJackson

From the article:

“Arizona was hit hard by the subprime crisis, and its economy has slowed significantly since mid-2006. Lawmakers, who had to make up a $2 billion budget shortfall for fiscal 2009, reduced the Medicaid rolls, put a freeze on hiring, and cut funding for community health centers and state universities.”

Good start - do more!


18 posted on 10/09/2008 5:48:24 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Lord please bless our nation with John McCain as president and Sarah Palin as Vice President! Amen.)
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19 posted on 10/09/2008 7:28:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: PDMiller

Didn’t O’Malley ram a massive tax increase down the citizen’s throats already? If I recall correctly, he couldn’t even wait to be inaugurated before he did it.


20 posted on 10/10/2008 6:13:27 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: TigerLikesRooster
California is indeed turning into another Mexico. It may not be a bad idea to bankrupt the state and start over.

Bankruptcy is the only way you can renegotiate insane contracts and benefits doled out to public sector employees during the boom years
21 posted on 10/10/2008 7:28:49 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw
Agreed. That is the only way to get rid of leaches.
22 posted on 10/10/2008 7:36:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: PDMiller

At $22 billion, California is 4 times more in the hole than the next highest state. It just goes to show what you can accomplish if you put your mind to it. Eat it, losers.


23 posted on 10/10/2008 12:58:44 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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The States of Montana, and Wyoming have just announced that their States now each have a Surplus of 1 Billion Dollars. Seems there is a marked for coal.


24 posted on 10/10/2008 1:03:10 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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