Posted on 10/09/2008 3:10:16 AM PDT by markomalley
When I decided to write a column about voter fraud, I first had planned to have some fun with it.
After all, the publicized Milwaukee cases were hardly in a league with the rampant problems down in The Land of The Cubs. In 2000 here, some workers from Al Gore's national campaign office were caught offering free cigarettes to the homeless if they voted for the former vice president.
Then there was the "you can't make this up" moment in 2004 when the sons of some prominent politicians were arrested for slashing the tires on vans belonging to a program for senior citizens. Cases more worthy of the Keystone Kops than Eliot Ness.
But then I received a copy of the "Milwaukee Police Report of The Investigation Into the 2004 General Election." According to the 67-page report, between 4,000 and 5,000 more votes were cast than were legally accounted for. At least 2,300 on-site registration cards had to be returned for verification. That's a little bit more serious than cigarettes and tires. Suddenly, it didn't seem like such a farce.
Many of the cases turned out to be more clerical and human errors than organized attempts to steal the election for Kerry or President Bush. Others, though, show that voter fraud here is more of a problem than we've been lead to believe.
There were 66 people who voted multiple times or from addresses that didn't exist. A few people who hadn't lived in Wisconsin for years discovered they still were registered from their old addresses, so they voted in both states. One gentleman was so excited about the Kerry-Bush race that he came back from the dead to vote. Talk about party loyalty.
There also were some potential organized cases of fraud. Workers from various political campaigns obtained temporary housing, never became Wisconsin residents, voted and then left after the election. The report labels these as clear examples of "voting illegally."
The biggest problem, though, was with on-site registrations. In every ward, police found examples of workers who not only didn't ask for proof of residency but didn't ask for an address at all. After the election, when investigators tried to verify these voters, they couldn't be found. Ward 276 had 31. Ward 298 had 41. Ward 7 had 48. In these three wards alone, 120 voters couldn't be found.
The solution to many of the problems is simple yet very controversial. Just ask the voters to prove who they are and where they live with a photo ID so that we know the votes were legally cast. Yes, I know all the discussion about "disenfranchising" and "intimidation," but that's really just so much boogeyman paranoia.
You can't buy certain cough medicine at Wal-Mart without an ID. You can't buy wine at Pick 'n Save without being carded. In fact, when I tried to use my Visa card to buy ribs at Lena's the other day, I had to show a photo ID. If I have to prove I'm Gary Nosacek to get booze and BBQ, I shouldn't have any problem with proving it to pick Barack Obama or John McCain.
The report ends with this comment by one of the investigators: "I know I voted, but I can't be certain it counted."
One person, one vote. That's how the system works. When it's called into question and we lose confidence in it, then we all lose - no matter who ends up winning the election.
With so much potential voter fraud out there this year, can legitimate voters still trust our system?
As we have seen so many times, Democrats need to cheat to win.
Ayres and Obama must have spent hours at the kitchen table, planning how to scam the system and destroy this country. Pure evil. Oops, I forgot. Obama hardly knows Ayres.
I haven't trusted our system for decades. I doubt I will in what remains of my lifetime.
It is easier to vote than it is to buy a package of Sudafed.
This is absolutely crap.
(Caution: Off Topic)
Shoot, it's easier to buy narcotics than it is to buy a package of Sudafed.
This is what corruption looks like. There are simple measures that can be used to reduce voter fraud, but won’t be implemented in many jurisdictions because they want voter fraud.
Imagine the fraud in those 8 states where they have same day registration. There’s no time to check validity.
The article mentions about five thousand fraudulent votes found in Wisconsin in 2000. That is about the margin Bush lost to Gore in 2000 in Wisconsin. No Republican ever demanded a recount. Naturally our Dem Gov Jim Doyle is fervently opposed to voter ids. They can see a number of lost elections if their fraudulent methods are finally quashed.
Why is it off-topic?
I spent 15 minutes at a CVS in Roanoke, VA, while two employees and their manager tried to figure out how to properly enter my Georgia Drivers License info into their computer so it would green-light my purchase of Sudafed.
It took me less than five minutes to cast my vote in Georgia this past Friday.
A recount would prove nothing.
I’m amazes the Urinal Sentinel printed this column.
What can you expect when big money buys the candidates, the media, and the elections?
Not now it won't, because it doesn't matter anyway Bush got elected. But if a recount had occurred and Bush won, all the stuff about Florida and Bush being illegally elected could have been nipped in the bud.
A recount only would reveal if the votes were counted wrong. A recount would not reveal which votes were cast illegally.
You’re putting the cart before the horse. The first thing would be to throw out all the illegal votes..if possible. If they threw out all the illegal votes (assuming they could find them all) that total would approximate the margin Bush lost by. Then have the recount.
Not 5,000 frudulent votes in Wisconsin. 5,000 in Milwaukee alone. Probably 8,000 total, once you add Madistan into the mix. And that is just the ones they caught.
I have always thought that the solution for this is to pass a voter ID law (Federal) with federal funds attached for those who "can't afford it." In other words...if you can't afford photo ID...and don't already have it...we'll pay for it.
That way...the dims could never argue voter disenfranchising. Even though we know the argument is silly...it would at least give our spineless GOP congresscritters a way to close that loophole. Then it would be obvious that the dims didn't want it so they could juice the system.
You might be correct. All I was trying to say is that there were thousands of fraudulent votes cast and likely most of them for Gore. The press was busy in Florida trying to convince (wrongly) Americans that Gore had actually won because of a bad voting system and yet they were totally uninterested in a state that had thousands of provable fraudulent votes. Constance Milstein, Dem activist from NY, openly admitted to passing out smokes to street people in Milwaukee to get them to vote for Gore. Now I would say that total, however small, together with the proven cases of normal Dem voting fraud totalled at least five thousand. It should have been enough for officials to demand a recount or a new vote.
Don't forget Racine, where election fraud is rampant in some wards.
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