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McCain and Palin in Bethlehem, PA-Live...Cnn
CNN ^ | 10/8/08 | Self

Posted on 10/08/2008 10:32:28 AM PDT by JerseyDvl

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To: dools007

I was in Gettysburg a couple of weekends ago. I surpised at all the Obama signs. I know they have the college there, but didn’t expect that many. Unless Adams county is more liberal than I thought.


301 posted on 10/08/2008 6:35:00 PM PDT by paul544 (3D-Joy OH Boy!!!)
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To: CedarDave

Thank you, CedarDave.


302 posted on 10/08/2008 6:36:49 PM PDT by Melian
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To: donnab

What an interesting story! Thank you!


303 posted on 10/08/2008 8:03:27 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Illic Est Haud Deus)
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To: JerseyDvl; All

My daughter, her SIL and I were at the rally today, it was our first and AWESOME!! Here are some pics from it...

http://www.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=3jsz3cbz.2d54ci2z&Uy=237i2p&Ux=0&UV=541157887134_753233860308


304 posted on 10/08/2008 10:11:52 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: tina07

oh, my daughter is the Army wife, and that’s my grandson in the one pic with his aunt


305 posted on 10/08/2008 10:15:23 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

NO, he won’t... look I am really getting tired of repeating myself.

Here’s the facts... Rendell doesn’t back this schlub, and is only doing public token things in terms of mobilizing the state machine.. Rendell’s in the bag for Hillary, always was, always will be.

Kerry took Philly area by a 4 to 1 margin, that’s with all the corruption, the party behind him, the machine behind him the blue collar/blue dogs behind him and the end of the day he won the state by about 140k votes, or about 2.5% of the votes cast. Gore same thing 4 years earlier and won by 205k votes.

Fauxbama has NONE of this going for him, he’s got HUGE problems on the ground. He’s losing PA folks, believe me, I’ve lived in the one of the metro blue areas of this state for a long time, this is the 5th presidential election, and even elections where the democrats lost the state (1988) the support on the ground for the democrat was stronger than it is for Fauxbama here.

The Philly fraud machine only creates so much guys, and only when its in full gear, and Rendel ain’t mobilizing it.

Fauxbama has HUGE problems in the rust belt! I’m telling you forget the polls you are seeing they are so far out of reality that they are laughable. You don’t win the rust belt as a dem without the white blue collar voters, and Fauxbama don’t have em.

He polled dead even going into the primaries here, and lost the state by 9 points. It won’t be a blowout for McCain here, but it will be a win. ANd I feel pretty confident that McCain will take another rust belt state or two with him.

Please stop buying into the pundent hype.. the national pundents don’t have a clue what’s going on on the ground in PA. Pittsburgh is not the blue bastion it was, and was never known for heavy fraud. GO look county by county of the state over the past 16 years... The Blueness of SWPA is contracting every cycle.

The support for Fauxbama is not there, he hasn’t gotten the democrats that opposed him by an overwhelming majority into his fold. Yes many came home, but a lot of life long dems and reagan dems are going to be telling him get bent in a few weeks.

The situation is not nearly as dire as the media want you to believe it is, they have been wrong about this election from day one, are completely wrong about what they consider to be the battleground, and wouldn’t be able to tell you the internals of PA politics and the machine here if their lived depended on it.

McCain would not be here if he didn’t think he could win, he doesn’t NEED PA to win... Fauxbama absolutely must hold PA. McCain need only hold the bush states, he can even give up a few of them and still win. McCain’s here 2 times this week, buying air time everywhere, he wouldn’t be investing what he’s investing if he didn’t feel confident he’s holding the other states and is winning this one.

If the campaign really thought that they were at a threat of a loss of a state like VA,NC FL or OH.. THey wouldnt be spending the resources they are in PA. McCain doesn’t need PA to win, he can lose IA, CO and still win. If he flips NH like its looking likey, he can lose IA, CO and NM and still win. McCain doesn’t need PA, but Fauxbama absolutely must hold it.

McCain’s camp has to know they are winning and winning confidently in all those R states the press wants to talk about.. Yes he’s visiting them and spending in them, but he wouldn’t tie up 2 days in PA if they were concerned about OH or FL or VA or NC, they’d be spending those days there, shoring it up.

Stop, stop buying into the rhetoric folks, the press is in the tank for Fauxbama, have been from day one, why everyone gets all sky is falling when they hear some press guy say x or y... or see some poll that says Z or W is beyond me. The national polls have been demonstrably oversampling democrats, and as the election nears, they will fix their secret sauces and their sampling percentages and within 2 weeks of the election you’ll have a somewhat reasonable picture in them.

The fixing of the sampling has already begun and low and behold that giant lead of Fauxbama’s slowly disappears. He’s never been up 5 or 7 nationally, let alone 7 or 15 in PA, that’s nonsense folks, absolute nonsense. Stop letting the constant barrage of the talking heads get to you. That’s all they are trying to do is deject the republican electorate, and hope you’ll stay home.

Even when Fauxbama was spiking in the polls because of all this hanky panky, even the pollsters themselves that were asked admitted that they weren’t seeing Fauxbama gaining support but a softening for McCain.. translation? SImple... folks ticked about the bailout threw a bit of an “I’ll take my bat and ball and go home” tempertantrum for a few days, and not suprisingly most of those folks were McCain backers.. combine that with radical oversampling and a “suspended” campaing for a week, and that’s what you had.

Fauxbama is not going to win this race, let alone win it by 7 or 8 points folks, that’s Bubba V Dole territory folks and Fauxbama does not remotely have the support or backing that Clinton had in 96.

Relax! Things are going to be ok, fight hard, stay positive. Things are not nearly as bad as they are being spun or portrayed.


306 posted on 10/08/2008 10:25:17 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Good analysis.


307 posted on 10/08/2008 10:27:41 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: JerseyDvl
From the Telegraph:

Some little girls are entranced by Sarah Palin during a rally in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania...

308 posted on 10/09/2008 4:44:43 AM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki

I think that is how I look at her as well. :)


309 posted on 10/09/2008 10:02:13 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (What do Obama and Osama have in common?-They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon! - Bill Ayers)
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To: housedeep

“fire at will!!!!!”

“Whose is Will?!!” (((Obama Junior Fraternity Regiment “soldier”)))


310 posted on 10/09/2008 10:51:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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