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Pressure to Keep the Baby? (Trig Palin and Abortion)
Christian Post ^ | 10/5/08 | R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 10/07/2008 4:06:03 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: annieokie

Nathan is so blessed with God’s special love. May God Bless Your Wonderful Family.


21 posted on 10/07/2008 5:23:21 PM PDT by just me (JELLY BEANS AND WINKS...)
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To: wagglebee
I have shed tears exactly twice in the last 12 months. Both times on the same day. Once (in joy) was after watching my unborn child kick and stretch on the ultrasound screen. The second time was after the nurse practitioner asked my wife and I about prenatal screening. They had already given us two little printed fuzzy snapshots from the ultrasound, and I was holding them as priceless treasures, and then she handed us a pamphlet advertising the screening service...I held it in, but it hit me so hard.

Look, it is nice to know and everything, but the thought of snuffing out that little life I had just watched on the screen was heartbreaking. As soon as we got back to the car, I tried to explain the implication to my wife (who was too thrilled with having seen the ultrasound to compute anything else) and I just broke down. What is so wrong with us that we would even consider it? It is so hard to grasp when these issues are not in the abstract.

I do not hate the women who make the decision to abort (nor do I hate the men who are supportive of such a decision). I hate the culture we have which makes it acceptable - and even something to celebrate to some. I'm not a religious or spiritual person, nor am I approaching this from just some sappy emotional level.

I simply cannot hand down a death sentence to an innocent unborn child, with defects or not. Nor could I endorse the decision if my wife so made it. Foremost, I cannot accept genetic or chromosomal abnormality as grounds for execution. Second, even if I could endorse the notion that such defects constitute grounds for execution, I could never live with myself if I found out that the test was incorrect, and I had "unjustly" sentenced a child (one incapable of guilt) to death. That 'this' particular procedure is 30% more accurate than the next best procedure is of no comfort. The topic is just so ugly.

Anyway, beyond politics, that Palin kept her precious baby, and that thousands of other women have similarly chosen (even if they are in the minority) makes me proud to be a human being. I have so little faith in humanity, but once in a while I see something amazing, like Palin holding her "imperfect" little angel protectively against herself (and I would not care if she were antithetical to my views in every other way).

22 posted on 10/07/2008 5:25:19 PM PDT by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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To: annieokie

Bless you and your family. And an extra hug for Mr. Precious!


23 posted on 10/07/2008 5:28:35 PM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............but does have a bracelet!!!!)
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To: just me

My favorite photo which say volumns about Sarah Palin and all good Moms who are blessed so and I mean it. Our extended family has “special needs” children who have taught US so much, the selfish will never “get it” but they miss out on what is truly valuable.

God bless all you Moms who without hesitation made the choice of giving life regardless. You show the way by example, you are GIANTS in today’s world and thank you.


24 posted on 10/07/2008 5:47:47 PM PDT by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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To: All

I have a friend who’s cousin was told her baby would have Downs and they decided to still have him and spent months preparing having all the things ready to go.

They will never forget the look of shock on the face of their OB when Kerry Ryne was delivered and DID NOT HAVE DOWNS SYNDROME!


25 posted on 10/07/2008 6:20:05 PM PDT by rexgrossmansonlyfan (I got it bad. I live in the state Obama was elected to the Senate from IN HILLARYS HOMETOWN!)
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To: donna
Siblings always take the place of the career mother as best they can.

Give me a break. A child showing affection toward her brother is trying to "take the place of [her] career mother"?

What a strange world you must inhabit.
26 posted on 10/07/2008 7:05:30 PM PDT by Zechariah_8_13 ("If we give the bureaucrats our children, we may as well give them everything else." - J. G. Machen)
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To: Carley

Thanks, I will give him an extra HUG for you.


27 posted on 10/07/2008 8:17:14 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: just me

God bless you and your as well. I will give Mr. Precious and extra hug for you too. He loves HUGS, big grandma ones. lol


28 posted on 10/07/2008 8:18:32 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Zechariah_8_13

Hon, that was motherly grooming.


29 posted on 10/07/2008 10:24:12 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal comes to fruition in the Republican Party. Betty Friedan laughs.)
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To: donna
Or maybe, just maybe, Piper was mimicking what she saw her mother (that would be Sarah, Trig's mom, too) do with Trig on prior occasions.

You are really reaching with your judgemental comment.

30 posted on 10/07/2008 10:35:02 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: tgslTakoma

Then why are you so upset?


31 posted on 10/07/2008 10:59:37 PM PDT by donna (Sarah Palin: The Feminist ideal comes to fruition in the Republican Party. Betty Friedan laughs.)
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To: M203M4

M203M4 - thank God, your post proves there are some real men left in America! Not either extreme of macho brutes or sappy sensitive liberals, but a rational man, with a head and a heart that can discern the truth without the aid of political or moral obfuscations.


32 posted on 10/08/2008 12:23:51 AM PDT by baa39
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To: rexgrossmansonlyfan

I have read that this is not uncommon, and so then that leads to the obvious conclusion that many women are aborting perfectly normal babies.

Some years back, my Mom’s neighbor, in her 40’s, had a “surprise” pregnancy and did all the tests and was advised to abort because the baby “would most likely” have Down’s Syndrome. My mother (devout Catholic), amazingly somehow talked this woman out of an abortion. The woman gave birth to a perfectly normal, healthy girl.


33 posted on 10/08/2008 12:28:23 AM PDT by baa39
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To: wagglebee
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


34 posted on 10/08/2008 3:16:24 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: donna

How many children do you have?


35 posted on 10/08/2008 4:33:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: donna
Bless your heart, you just don't get it, do you?
36 posted on 10/08/2008 4:43:38 AM PDT by Guenevere (We will NOT collapse.The New World Order WILL collapse.This is our last chance!)
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To: donna

Siblings will do that anyway. We home school, my wife is with the kids all day.

Nevertheless, my kids think they’re allowed to parent each other. It gets them into trouble all the time, with us and each other. Not equating Piper’s positive actions here, just using a negative example to make the point. Kids will emulate parents whether they work full time or not.


37 posted on 10/08/2008 4:47:49 AM PDT by ovrtaxt ( One useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a Congress. --John Adams)
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To: Guenevere
Arguing with obsessed people will make you beat your head against the keyboard and hit the Guinness before 8:00 a.m., but it's okay as long as you add an egg. (Or so I hear, in the wilds of Britain ...)

Here's a picture of Bill and Vlad, just because they're cute:


38 posted on 10/08/2008 4:49:17 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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To: M203M4

Beautiful, beautiful post.

Thank you.
Tatt


39 posted on 10/08/2008 4:55:34 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: donna
that was motherly grooming

You're joking, right? When I saw that, I said, "EEEEEW! She's SLIMING his hairs!" You can check the live debate thread.

40 posted on 10/08/2008 5:04:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (This is embarassing! Have a Guinness and pull yourselves together!)
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