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Revealed:systematic manipulation of polling
http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33700 ^

Posted on 10/04/2008 10:47:42 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

CALL TO ACTION! "FREEPING FOR JESUS": THE VP DEBATE by Kevinole

Oct 02, 2008 at 05:51:27 PM PDT

We organized a Freep List for the first Obama vs. McCondescending-Asshole debate. As far as I know, this had never been done before. We did a great job and I learned a lot that I could use in making this and future freep list diaries more effective.

I fully expect "Mighty Joe" Biden to crush Sarah "I-Shot-Bullwinkle" Palin like a grape. One thing I will not take for granted, however, is the industriousness of the right-wing spin machine. They will be out in full force tonight attempting to alter reality and voter opinion. This is our opportunity to help counter Repug spin, engage in a little psychological warfare and perhaps even influence a voter or two, if we're very lucky.

Here are some things you need to keep in mind.

THIS IS A NETROOTS EFFORT! We need YOUR help, not simply to vote in these polls, but to help us find them! If you came here expecting me to have already done all of the work for everybody and provide a list of links directly to online polls, I'm sorry to disappoint you. I have no idea who is going to put up a poll or where they are going to put it. Besides, this is a gargantuan task. I've done my best to provide a good starter list, but it's not perfect. YOU need to find exact locations and give the rest of us updates. This is a team effort! Be patient! Not all of these sites put polls up right away. Some do. Some take an hour or more after the debate. Some may take several hours. Be patient. If you can't find a poll move on and check back.

(Excerpt) Read more at hillaryclintonforum.net ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: netroots; newbie

1 posted on 10/04/2008 10:47:42 AM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

So long Mr. 2008-9-06...


2 posted on 10/04/2008 10:49:36 AM PDT by telebob
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To: cycle of discernment

Things I learned at Camp Obama.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 10:52:18 AM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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To: telebob; cycle of discernment

He’s calling attention to an enemy tactic (specifically a tactic of the Kossacks) not attacking McCain. But...if I were cycle I’d explain that myself ASAP.


4 posted on 10/04/2008 10:53:51 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: telebob

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/31250


5 posted on 10/04/2008 10:55:26 AM PDT by Salamander (Blue Oyster Cult is the soundtrack to the Revolution.)
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To: cycle of discernment
cycle of discernment, Member Since Sep 6, 2008.

The RATS doing psychological warfare against us? I am shaking with fear!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahahhaahha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am against manipulating polls. Having said that, the RATS have been doing it since day one. One of the known slogans of the rat voter fraud machine is: "vote early vote often". Now we can add a new one: poll early, poll often!

6 posted on 10/04/2008 11:00:09 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: cycle of discernment
I fully expect "Mighty Joe" Biden to crush Sarah "I-Shot-Bullwinkle" Palin like a grape.

Well, Kevinole is no mystic sage, that's for sure!ROFLOL!

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7 posted on 10/04/2008 11:00:35 AM PDT by smoothsailing ( Bill Russell can defeat John Murtha - Visit http://russellbrigade.com/)
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To: cycle of discernment
ZOT!!
8 posted on 10/04/2008 11:09:00 AM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Mr. Silverback
"He’s calling attention to an enemy tactic..."

Ah, of course. Noobie posts provocative zot material without any clarifier. I guess I'm just a little quick on the trigger today...

9 posted on 10/04/2008 11:14:25 AM PDT by telebob
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To: Mr. Silverback; All

Calm down everybody....

Online Poll Manipulation was a HALLMARK of the 2004 Kerry campaign, and if you recall, the morons were being PAID by George Soros to do it!

Obama TODAY currently pays a group of “bloggers” to do the very same thing.
Another PAID group of Democrat Blog Posters is the SOROS-FINANCED “Center for Independent Media”. (NOT SARC!)

THAT is why online polling is terribly innacurate. It is being used by Democrats to MANIPULATE OPINION. If you go online and see that “Everybody” hates Bush and the Republicans, well then maybe YOU should hate Bush and the Republicans, just like “everybody” else!

IT’S AGIT-PROP


10 posted on 10/04/2008 11:15:23 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: tcrlaf
I don't need a Poll to know Sarah Palin kicked Biden's ass.

Most of my liberal friends even said it without knowing the lies Biden said

She was real is what they said.

11 posted on 10/04/2008 11:19:44 AM PDT by scooby321 (Cai)
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To: tcrlaf

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2094322/posts

Many polls trumpeted on TV are nothing more than agit-prop, even when some of us are able to dissect them and show their flaws some FReepers will still believe the bad news.

The media’s job is to create an alternate reality where “everybody” is voting for Obama, everyone by nature wants to be on the “winning” team, it is effective and powerful. People who think the “majority” believe in the most evil or evil thoughts and policies will side with the “majority”. It is a DANGEROUS fact of human nature, Hitler wasn’t an anomoly, he was an inevitablility. Hitler will happen again, he already has on smaller scales, Hitler can happen here, it could be in a few years or a hundred years.

Watch the video at the link provided and pass the video around.


12 posted on 10/04/2008 11:21:40 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob
Hitler can happen here, it could be in a few years or a hundred years.

Try this year.

13 posted on 10/04/2008 11:23:03 AM PDT by unspun (Tell the truth about Obama to all you know.)
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To: tcrlaf

It’s why I say ingnore them, don’t participate, if it looks close at all, then the “victory” appears real. But if all the “polls” are 95% dim, they will soon lose their tactic.


14 posted on 10/04/2008 11:23:34 AM PDT by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: unspun

It will take him a few years in office to effect the “change”, we’ve got this sticky checks and balances thing going on. That’s why I said a “few” years.

If any of you don’t vote for McCain, the second Obama starts signing executive orders you are going to throw up and hate yourselves, you’ve been warned.


15 posted on 10/04/2008 11:26:17 AM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: word_warrior_bob

The loons at DAILY KOS (many of them Mainstream Media types themselves) spent the last two weeks hounding and calling the major pollsters DEMANDING that they change thier Democrat Polling weights to reflect the higher Democrat Registrations.
(Thus showing Obama with a BIGGER Lead)

IT WORKED....

Many polls started raising thier Democrat Bias at the end of last week, hence the “Larger” obama leads this week.

MORE AGIT-PROP


16 posted on 10/04/2008 11:28:19 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: unspun
"Hitler can happen here, it could be in a few years or a hundred years." "Try this year." . CHANGE YOU DAMN WELL BETTER BELIEVE IN!. .
17 posted on 10/04/2008 11:30:18 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: cycle of discernment

18 posted on 10/04/2008 11:33:16 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Obviously cycle came across this agit-prop on the hillaryclintonforum and wanted to make us aware of it.

BTW, you never saw a harder working bunch of people than those PUMAs. In four years they’ll be four square for Hillary, but right now they are the most energetic Mccain/Palin supporters out there.


19 posted on 10/04/2008 11:55:13 AM PDT by StatenIsland (The '08 Election: It's about the survival of our country, not making a point...)
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To: smoothsailing

Love it! LOL


20 posted on 10/04/2008 11:59:02 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R
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To: cycle of discernment; darkwing104

zzzzzzzooooooooottttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 10/04/2008 12:28:14 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: cycle of discernment
Scotty, set phasers on 'spork weasel', and IBTZ we go......


23 posted on 10/04/2008 1:34:54 PM PDT by Viking2002 (A man who never quits is never defeated.)
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To: Viking2002

???

I included a post I read that shows what the Obama camp are doing regarding polls.

I am a McCain/Palin supporter.


24 posted on 10/04/2008 2:37:33 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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