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Facts Are Amiss in Obama’s New Ad From VP Debate
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/3/2008 | Susan Davis

Posted on 10/04/2008 6:07:06 AM PDT by markomalley

Barack Obama is the first candidate to use footage from Thursday’s vice-presidential debate for a new ad — one that attacks rival John McCain’s health-care plan.

In the ad, “Can’t Explain,” Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin defends McCain’s proposal. “He’s proposing a $5,000 tax credit for families so that they can get out there and they can purchase their own health care coverage,” she said during the debate at Washington University in St. Louis.

“Do you know how John McCain pays for his $5,000 tax credit? He taxes as income every one of you out there, every one of you listening who has a health care plan through your employer,” says Joe Biden, Obama’s running mate. “Taxing your health care benefit. I call that the ‘ultimate Bridge to Nowhere.’”

McCain’s campaign was quick to respond last night to Biden’s attack, noting that much of it has been debunked by independent fact checks. Biden’s suggestion that it amounts to a tax increase for “every one of you out there” is wrong and does not account for the fact that McCain’s plan also includes new tax breaks for the insured.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; ads; obama
Since when do facts matter when you have a "holy cause" (like the coronation of The One)?
1 posted on 10/04/2008 6:07:06 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
McCain’s campaign was quick to respond last night to Biden’s attack, noting that much of it has been debunked by independent fact checks. Biden’s suggestion that it amounts to a tax increase for “every one of you out there” is wrong and does not account for the fact that McCain’s plan also includes new tax breaks for the insured.

So quit making "statements" and make some damn ads that say the same and run them twice as much as No Bama does in the same states!

You just make a comment and only those who pay attention hear you.

You make an ad and run it over and over again and pretty much everyone will hear it at some point.

2 posted on 10/04/2008 6:11:04 AM PDT by bayliving (Democrats used to be funny. Now they're just plain dangerous.)
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To: markomalley

Why wasn’t the GOP the first to put out the ads? Why is it the GOP is always on the defensive or not even in the game? They want to lose this election. They’ve wanted to lose it for at least the last two or three years. Bush has turned into something from the Invasion of the Body Snatchers and there’s nothing maverick in McLame. Something bad is coming and they don’t want anything to do with it.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 6:16:52 AM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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To: itsthejourney

Why isn’t the McCain camp making a video of Biden saying that they were also going to give a windfall oil rebate to the people. I haven’t heard a word about it.

Isn’t imitation the sincerest form of flattery?


4 posted on 10/04/2008 6:30:56 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: Kenny
Yeah, Biden says he's personally going to write me out a check for $1000 so I can buy gasoline.

Holding the punk to his word too ~ win or loose.

5 posted on 10/04/2008 6:35:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: itsthejourney

Why isn’t the GOP hammering the Donks who created the bailout mess ?


6 posted on 10/04/2008 6:42:06 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: muawiyah

The five largest oil companies (who operate outside the United States and do much more than sell gasoline) made $123 billion last year. 0bama’s “energy plan” consists of seizing profits and redistributing them. If we assume we have 180 million taxpayers (ballpark, it doesn’t matter) and we give them each a $1,000 “energy rebate,” we’re now on the hook for $180 billion. That can’t even be covered by a “windfall profits” tax.

These people can’t even do math let alone think logically about the consequences of their Marxist plans.


7 posted on 10/04/2008 6:42:34 AM PDT by flintsilver7
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To: markomalley

I would ask Obama or any of his supporters: if Obama must lie about himself—to such an extent that he is presented as opposite his real self—in order to win, doesn’t it mean the real Obama is vastly inferior?


8 posted on 10/04/2008 6:45:32 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (A liberal can never stand up like a man and admit his true beliefs.)
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To: markomalley

How about this political cause?

Which political party adopted the following as part of their platform?

We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunities for employment and earning a living.
The activities of the individual must not be allowed to clash with the interests of the community, but must take place within its confines and be for the good of all. Therefore, we demand: . . . an end to the power of the financial interests.
We demand profit sharing in big business.
We demand a broad extention of care for the aged.
We demand . . . the greatest possible consideration of small business in the purchase of the national, state, and municipal governments.
In order to make possible to every capable and industrious [citizen] the attainment of higher education and thus the achievement of a post of leadership, the government must provide an all-around enlargement of the entire system of public education. . . . We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents. . . .
The government must undertake the improvement of public health - by protecting mother and child, by prohibiting child labor . . . by the greatest possible support for all clubs concerned with the physical education of youth.
[We] combat the . . . materialistic spirit within and without us and are convinced that a permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good.

Is this the Democrat Party under the Messiah? Well, no, not exactly. Answer: The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany. Nazi for short. The excerpts above were adopted in Munich, on February 24, 1920. Source: Der Nationalsozialismus Dokumente 1933-1945, edited by Walther Hofer, Frankfurt am Main: Fischer Bucherei, 1957, pp. 29-31.


9 posted on 10/04/2008 6:48:22 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: flintsilver7

I think that should also be in their ad, that they would do and say anything ($1,000 rebate) to get elected but they have no intention of following through (can’t).

I also would say that Sarah actually came up with this way to share profits with the people and she can do it on a larger scale for America. The difference is, she actually comes up with original ideas like the oil rebate and therefore can keep that style of new government in all areas.


10 posted on 10/04/2008 6:52:07 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: markomalley

Everything that David Plouffe said was a lie. And then of course, he had to work in “Bush’s failed economic policies” and, by the way, send 5 dollars or more. It is an effective technique (ala Joe Goebbels) as he is counting on the fact that very few of his minions actually watched the debate.


11 posted on 10/04/2008 7:30:26 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: bayliving

Instead, Obama is running radio ads every hour in Ohio saying McCain, for the first time ever, will tax employer health care benefits and the $5,000 credit goes directly to the insurance company.


12 posted on 10/04/2008 7:38:49 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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