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Schwarzenegger to U.S.: State may need $7-billion loan (CA goes T.U.)
LA Times ^ | 10/3/08 | By Marc Lifsher and Evan Halper, Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

Posted on 10/02/2008 11:34:37 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, alarmed by the ongoing national financial crisis, warned Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson on Thursday that the state might need an emergency loan of as much as $7 billion from the federal government within weeks.

The warning comes as California is close to running out of cash to fund day-to-day government operations and is unable to access routine short-term loans that it typically relies on to remain solvent.

The state of California is the biggest of several governments nationwide that are being locked out of the bond market by the global credit crunch. If the state is unable to access the cash, administration officials say, payments to schools and other government entities could quickly be suspended and state employees could be laid off.

Plans by several state and local governments to borrow in recent days have been upended by the credit freeze. New Mexico was forced to put off a $500-million bond sale, Massachusetts had to pull the plug halfway into a $400-million offering, and Maine is considering canceling road projects that were to be funded with bonds.

California finance experts say they know of no time in recent history when the state has sought an emergency loan of this magnitude from the federal government. The only other such rescue was in 1975, they said, when the federal government lent New York City money to avoid bankruptcy.

"Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis," Schwarzenegger wrote in a letter Thursday evening e-mailed to Paulson, "California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: bailout; calbudget; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 10/02/2008 11:34:37 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

http://www.latimes.com/media/acrobat/2008-10/42718750.pdf


2 posted on 10/02/2008 11:36:18 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl
Kalifornia needs to fail and teach these greedy Liberal controlled politicians and their liberal voter's that they cannot continue with stupid Democratic politics.
3 posted on 10/02/2008 11:39:43 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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To: OKIEDOC

I guess papering over the budget deficit this year and pushing it into next year was not a good idea.

This is going to be big news....more than all the business shutting down and laying off already.


4 posted on 10/02/2008 11:41:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl; All

Can’t be. We all know that illegal immigrants contribute far more to the economy than what they produe. With all the millions of illegal California should be souring. So it’s impossible for the state to be in trouble because they have so many immigrants.


5 posted on 10/02/2008 11:42:37 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

7B, a mere bag of shells these days.


6 posted on 10/02/2008 11:43:12 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: truthguy

A lot of illegals have gone home...


7 posted on 10/02/2008 11:44:13 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: word_warrior_bob

It is sad that a billion bucks seems like nothing today is’nt it?

These people have lost their minds! Why is it my fault that California government cannot function? Why is it my fault that people bought homes they could not afford? Why is it my fault our automobile companies cannot stay profitable?

Why is it the fault of my 1 and 3 year old children who can’t vote but are being asked to pay for all of the failed policies of prior generations?


8 posted on 10/02/2008 11:46:47 PM PDT by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: BurbankKarl
I guess papering over the budget deficit this year and pushing it into next year was not a good idea.

And yet there's at least three new state bond proposals on the November ballot!

9 posted on 10/02/2008 11:49:18 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA YES: Prop 4 - Family notification. NO (Bonds): 1A, 3, 12. Vote McCain/Palin.)
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To: newzjunkey

There is a Measure R in LA County....The LA MTA mailed a brochure to every USPS customer in the county! I think it adds another half cent to the sales tax for transit.

But we already have a transit tax...and the State monies have been diverted to take care of our South of the Border guests.


10 posted on 10/02/2008 11:52:22 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Ask Wall Street for it, Arnie, I hear they’re coming into BILLIONS soon.


11 posted on 10/02/2008 11:54:58 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: BurbankKarl
I was born and spent my first 10 years of life in California.

When my dad sold his Orange grove and spray rig business and moved to a farm in Oklahoma we missed the good old days of living in the central valleys.

I came back to California in 2006 from South America thinking things were great.

I still have not fully figured out everything that is wrong but it does not take a rocket scientist to know that California voters have been on a buying binge for years.

Years of inane...no down right stoopid, laws have killed the Golden Goose.

When I first moved to the beach in San Diego my neighbor said why did you move here.

He stated that thing's were about to crater and the liberals just could not accept the fact that they had damaged California to a point of no return.

Just my lowly opinion.

12 posted on 10/02/2008 11:59:03 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (The Difference Between Palin and Obama is Common Sense, She's GOT IT, He DOESN'T)
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To: truthguy

Truthguy. Noticing myself how the LSM, the POTUS candidates and the VP candidates are avoiding this subject completely. The Libs don’t won’t to discuss the financial implosion of their cultural mecca. A prime example of failed social engineering policies and its associated costs.


13 posted on 10/02/2008 11:59:42 PM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: BurbankKarl

Californians live in a physical paradise and vote themselves all kind of benefits, and look down their noses at the rest of the country. Now WE are supposed to bail them out?


14 posted on 10/03/2008 12:02:13 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Maybe a few have left here, but, a lot of illegals have moved to NC to be supported by the Dim legislature and gov here. Crimes being reported perpetuated by illegal Hispanics in my area is continuing to skyrocket.


15 posted on 10/03/2008 12:02:34 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: BurbankKarl
Gunna be a “teat in the wringer” moment soon,,,

Think utility workers(water and sewer),,,

Lay them off and watch what happens...:0/

16 posted on 10/03/2008 12:02:35 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: BurbankKarl

Is this because of greedy CEO’s too? /sarc


17 posted on 10/03/2008 12:03:35 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: calcowgirl

Ping


18 posted on 10/03/2008 12:09:35 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: BurbankKarl

What’s the saying....Among the states, California is the leader. You know, air pollution regs, designer gasoline blends, coaxial fuel-vapor-recovery hoses on gas pumps; tree hugging, whale appreciation, mantras, and prayer circles.

I am sure Hank wants to set a fine precedent here. Then there would only be 56 more states to bail out.


19 posted on 10/03/2008 12:14:43 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Tired from wondering whether we wake up in the newest socialist country tomorrow.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Hell no!

The State can cut $7-billion from its annual budget and live within its means.

Have to cut out road maintanence? The roads are in lousy shape already. They can revert to dirt.

Have to cut out welfare benefits? Too bad. Can't afford it.

Have to close down the universities? Too bad. Close 'em down.

Can't afford police protection? The citizens will have to buy guns and protect themselves.

Bail out California? Don't make me laugh!

20 posted on 10/03/2008 12:43:34 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl
"If the state is unable to access the cash...payments to schools and other government entities could quickly be suspended and state employees could be laid off."

Boo hoo hoo! Waaaaaaaaaaaa! To @#!@%#! bad!

Close down the schools! Close down the other government entities! Fire the state employees!

The world's seventh biggest economy is living beyond its means. Let reality crash down and demolish the delusions. It'll be the best thing that could happen to those nutcases.

21 posted on 10/03/2008 12:51:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl
"New Mexico was forced to put off a $500-million bond sale, Massachusetts had to pull the plug halfway into a $400-million offering, and Maine is considering canceling road projects that were to be funded with bonds."

Tough mammary! NM, Mass., and Maine can't afford those things. That means DO WITHOUT THEM!

22 posted on 10/03/2008 12:55:03 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl
Pity they haven't been pulling in offshore oil royalties or something. Seems being 'green' means a lack thereof.

Of course, that is only half of the equation. watching where it goes is important, too.

23 posted on 10/03/2008 12:55:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: BurbankKarl
"California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the federal treasury for short-term financing."

Yes. And when they don't get the short-term financing--they will discontinue programs and fire employees that they can't afford. It's very simple really.

24 posted on 10/03/2008 12:57:38 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl

No!


25 posted on 10/03/2008 12:58:13 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Just Say NObama!)
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To: truthguy
When California is forced to discontinue its welfare programs, maybe the illegal immigrants will emigrate, and the State will be able to balance its budget again.

Ever think of that, Arnold?

26 posted on 10/03/2008 12:59:39 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl

What is TU?


27 posted on 10/03/2008 1:11:02 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: BurbankKarl

Feds to Arnold:

DROP DEAD!!

(an old NY POST headline when NYC went bunkrupt in the 1970’s)


28 posted on 10/03/2008 1:11:28 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Democrats still want to get Pres. Bush and/or VP Cheney; there might be show trials in Feb09)
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To: BurbankKarl

To misquote Robert Moses, “If you elect a matinee-idol governor, you get a musical comedy administration.”


29 posted on 10/03/2008 1:19:59 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: dalereed

Toes Up as in “It’s dead, Jim”


30 posted on 10/03/2008 1:44:03 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Either quit writing in alphabet soup or put your toes up as in dead!


31 posted on 10/03/2008 1:47:18 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: BurbankKarl

Arnold has done such a dismal job as Governor that I believe a Democrat will be governor in 2010. Hopefully not, but I would place a bet on that one.


32 posted on 10/03/2008 1:50:34 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: dalereed; BurbankKarl

Was that last post to me, or the Freeper you posted to originally, BurbankKarl?


33 posted on 10/03/2008 2:03:30 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

To anyone that spews that crap!!!


34 posted on 10/03/2008 2:06:57 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: BurbankKarl

Every PIG hightailing it to the trough!


35 posted on 10/03/2008 2:11:55 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: napscoordinator

“Arnold has done such a dismal job as Governor that I believe a Democrat will be governor in 2010. Hopefully not, but I would place a bet on that one.”

Gov Wimponator could be replaced with one of the hard core left Dem’s in the State Assembly or Senate tomorrow and policy-wise, nobody could notice any difference. Arnold on the silver screen plays the toughest of the tough, but in real life politics, he makes PeeWee Herman look intimidating.

i.e. on the budget ‘crisis’ (something we manufacture regularly in Calif), Arnold told his Comptroller (right title?) to pay state employees minimum wage until a budget was passed. The Comptroller refused. And Arnold did not fire him, but instead caved in to the Dem’s demand for more tax increases (as if Calif was not already vying for title of highest tax State).


36 posted on 10/03/2008 2:52:38 AM PDT by OldArmy52 (Obama: to the political left of the only declared Socialist in the Senate.)
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To: BurbankKarl
Sorry California. No Dice!

Suck it up and earn it out or go bankrupt.

Maybe people will finally get how the DemocRATS have screwed the state's residents.

37 posted on 10/03/2008 3:51:59 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: BurbankKarl
So now we know. One of those small businesses that is having trouble getting loans to make its payroll, is called the State of Kalifornia.
38 posted on 10/03/2008 3:58:57 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: BurbankKarl

California should get Streisand and Spielberg and Sarrandon and all the other rich Hollywood liberals to line up and bend over. They have more money than the federal government does.


39 posted on 10/03/2008 4:03:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: BurbankKarl

Sorry Arnold,
Any state government that thinks that it can get cash out of the Feds in this time of Financial troubles and bank tightening is not working in reality.
It may be hard, but the states may actually follow the lead of businesses. When times are tough and lean, it is time to print a healthy quantity of pink-slips.
I would suggest cut state management positions first, they are all backed up with double redundant systems. Next you should cut the social service staff by 50%, the teachers’ aids and helpers, and administrators. You don’t need more than one adult teachers per class of kids. You should also cut the free tuition for the state schools. Without the students making a financial investment of their own, they only see college as a continuation of high school and do not actually study.
There are other places to cut. Be creative.


40 posted on 10/03/2008 4:16:45 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Suck it up and earn it out or go bankrupt.

There's no legal avenue for a state to declare bankruptcy. Their choices are raise taxes, cut spending, or fall apart, the end stage of a communist regime.

41 posted on 10/03/2008 4:23:12 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Maybe the silver lining on this cloud is that spending will in fact come under control.

Yeah, I know....dream on.


42 posted on 10/03/2008 4:40:09 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Too bad, Soooo sad! Kalifornia lives beyond its means and now needs a bailout.


43 posted on 10/03/2008 5:13:58 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: BurbankKarl

US to California: Drop dead.


44 posted on 10/03/2008 5:18:45 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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To: BurbankKarl; Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Or the more colorful T*ts Up...


45 posted on 10/03/2008 5:20:22 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: BurbankKarl; All

Calf. should seek a loan from where most of it’s money went, Mexico.

... And if a lot of “Gods children” went back, who will pick the lettuce?


46 posted on 10/03/2008 5:26:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (USMC- Guarding freedom around the world since 1775)
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To: Savage Beast
This is like a fat slob driving a Cadillac asking for money to go to a restaurant for his nightly steak dinner. I say "GFY". Lose some weight.
47 posted on 10/03/2008 5:44:33 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: BurbankKarl

Note to Schwarzenneger: Go ask Mexico for a bail out since your state loves their law-breaking citizens so much, otherwise, sux to be you.


48 posted on 10/03/2008 6:56:56 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (The Late Great Nation USA.)
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To: PA-RIVER
Y'got that right. The entire State of California needs to lose some weight--and saying "Hell No!" to the bailout request is the best way to put it on a diet.

These people have taken chutzpa to a new dimension! They spend money like drunken sailors and then have the nerve to ask for a bailout!

HELL NO!

49 posted on 10/03/2008 7:29:49 AM PDT by Savage Beast (If anyone can deal with a hostile climate and a pack of wolves it's the Governor of Alaska!)
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To: BurbankKarl
How much do ya want it, Ahnold?


50 posted on 10/03/2008 7:51:41 AM PDT by dr_who
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