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1 posted on 10/02/2008 9:22:19 PM PDT by GVnana
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15. He screwed up on the constitution and the powers of the Vice Presidency.


2 posted on 10/02/2008 9:24:06 PM PDT by Natural Law
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BIDEN MADE 3 HUGE MISTAKES!!!!!!!

1. Biden the Foreign policy guru said Darfor was in CHAD!!!

2. Biden said that 100 million families would be affected by Mccain's Medical plan. There are not 100 million families in the USA.

3. Biden said that he would be "right by Obama's side" with every decision. Does Obama need a nanny?

Wonderful debate.

3 posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:21 PM PDT by politicalmerc (NObama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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To: GVnana
I felt Sarah was constrained by her advisors and the campaign to be too much a cheerleader tonight and not allowed to just be herself and take the dems to task. Having said that, she certainly held her own with Biden and, much more importantly, she connected with the American people much much better than Biden.

That will be the key from tonight.

Biden bloviated all over the place and will be shown to have made glaring misrepresentations on McCain's record and his own, which this thread is ample example of...and the people need to hear of it.

How irresponsible, how arrogant to throw this type of stuff out there ina national debate. .

But all of that pales in comparison to Sarah's ability, even when cheerleading for McCain, to connect with the American people in her style, in her wording, and in her demeanor.

Common Americans are naturally drawn to her. She speaks to them...speaks for them. All of the MSM attempts to the contrary, that is what she does and she McCain campaign needs to have her constalntly out in front of the people doing just that.


I'M VOTING FOR SARAH...AND SO ARE A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE

4 posted on 10/02/2008 9:25:22 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GVnana

I WANT TO SEE a VIDEO of this, with the back ground music to :

LIAR LIAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq5_pEO8a8U&feature=related


5 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:01 PM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush (Today, July 16th I no longer donate money for Israel)
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To: GVnana
10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation -- he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

Speaking of which...has anyone seen actual documentation of Obama calling attention to Freddie and Fannie issues 2 years ago. I have seen it for McCain but not Obama.
6 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:17 PM PDT by Notasoccermom (.)
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To: GVnana


WASHINGTON TIMES.com: "BIDEN GETS VEEP ROLE WRONG" by Stephen Dinan (October 3, 2008)

AMERICAN THINKER.com: "ARE FOREIGN DONATIONS POWERING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN?" by Rick Moran (October 2, 2008)

WorldNetDaily.com: "4 WEATHERMEN TERRORISTS DECLARE SUPPORT FOR OBAMA Call for 'grassroots effort' to help boost campaign" by Aaron Klein (October 2, 2008, 12:20 am Eastern)

ACE OF SPADES HQ - blog: "BIDEN'S 14 LIES" (October 2, 2008)

LittleGreenFootballs.com - blog: "BIDEN'S BIG LIE" (October 2, 2008)

stepping back in time...VIDEO: "YouTube Debate: Would You Meet with Iran/Syria/North Korea?" (Added July 23, 2007)

FOX NEWS.com (AP): "FACT CHECK: Biden's Chopper Was 'Forced Down' by Snowflakes" (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com (THE WASHINGTON TIMES): "From a Little ACORN" by Mona Charen (October 2, 2008)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "LETTING THE AL QAEDA MYTH GO UNCHALLENGED" by Seth Forman (October 2, 2008)

JIHADICA.com: ""The Painful Truth: Al-Qaeda is Losing the War in Iraq"" (October 1, 2008)

Link (pdf)

FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE.com: "BLACK RACISTS RECRUITED TO GUIDE THE JIHAD" by John Perazzo (October 2, 2008)

JIHAD WATCH.org (CAMPUS WATCH): "INGRID MATTSON AND THE U.S. MUSLIM ENGAGEMENT PROJECT" (SNIPPET: "Mattson was one of the speakers at an interfaith gathering at the Democratic National Convention in August...") (October 1, 2008)

stepping back in time...JIHAD WATCH.org - Dhimmi Watch: "ISLAMIC LEADER URGES JEWS TO BE WARY OF CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALISTS" (March 15, 2007)

NEWSMAX.com: "SECRET, FOREIGN MONEY FLOODS INTO OBAMA CAMPAIGN" by Kenneth R. Timmerman (September 29, 2008)

ZOMBIE.com - blog: "THE GREENLINING INSTITUTE: DOES THE FINANCIAL CRISIS HAVE ITS ORIGINS IN BERKELEY?" (September 30, 2008, 7:44 pm)

THE AMERICAN PROWLER - Special Report: "FINANCIAL AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" by Matthew Vadum (September 29, 2008, 12:08 am)



[Post no. 2] - ARCHIVES - Topic: BIDEN & OBAMA (aka B & O) (October 1, 2008 -- Click Here.)




7 posted on 10/02/2008 9:26:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: GVnana

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/

Test Ban Treaty
10:04 p.m.
Sen. Joseph Biden asserted that Sen. John McCain opposed the comprehensive nuclear test ban and that virtually every other Republican supported it. That is false. President Clinton never submitted the test ban for formal ratification because it faced overwhelming Republican opposition in a GOP-controlled Senate.
—Jonathan Weisman


8 posted on 10/02/2008 9:27:06 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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What about that comment that Dick Cheney is the most dangerous vice president the U.S. has ever had??

Along with Dubya, I credit Mr. Cheney with keeping our country safe since 9/11. Sure wish it was him in the WH come January with Gov. Palin at his side!


11 posted on 10/02/2008 9:28:11 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative leaning toward the McCain/Palin ticket now!!)
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To: GVnana

Bump for later so I can stick it to some DUmmies.


12 posted on 10/02/2008 9:30:03 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: GVnana

Great list! Pass it around to all the MSM.


14 posted on 10/02/2008 9:30:59 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: GVnana

And kicking Hizballah out of Lebanon.


15 posted on 10/02/2008 9:31:52 PM PDT by El Sordo
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I’m not sure this is a mistake, but Biden said, “Ahmadinejad does not control the security apparatus in Iran. The theocracy controls the security apparatus...”

Is that true, that Ahmadinejad would have no control over the nuclear weapons they are in the process of developing? I haven’t heard that before.


21 posted on 10/02/2008 9:34:20 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: GVnana
It was so obvious that he was lying, even when he mentioned issues I wasn't sure of, I could tell he was lying.

He had that same demeanor when he made the outrageous claim that McCain was wrong on the war (lie) that he showed when talking about several other questionable points.

He sounded as sure when saying that he never criticized Obama for saying that he would meet without pre-conditions as he showed when mentioning the other statistics, so it cast a pale of suspicion over everything he said.

People can pick up on the non-verbals when a slick, political hack is tying to cover his butt. A typical Democrat. Liars all.

31 posted on 10/02/2008 9:40:33 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: GVnana
#11, Biden inadvertently admitted that the SURGE in Iraq worked by
saying the same SURGE wouldn't work in Afghanistan.
33 posted on 10/02/2008 9:40:56 PM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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Isn't the Internet great? Lies exposed before the NYT can put their nuance on the front page tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone here for a job well done. More lies exposed by fellow FReepers, even beating the McCain camp to the punch.

I am so proud to be associated with the posters here. Common sense, respectable discussion and differing points of view. (And a few laughs along the way).

34 posted on 10/02/2008 9:41:09 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obama / Biden, the new Ebony and Ivory.)
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16. AFGHANISTAN / IRAQ COST. Biden said we spend as much in 3 weeks in Iraq as 6 1/2 years in Afghanistan. This is false. Maybe in 3 months.


35 posted on 10/02/2008 9:41:34 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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Biden - you can’t make up a guy like this - nice but stupid.

Biden - the gift that keeps on giving

Obama - Does the name Hillary Clinton sound familiar to you?


36 posted on 10/02/2008 9:41:41 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: GVnana
Biden has difficulty telling the truth.
39 posted on 10/02/2008 9:42:27 PM PDT by FreeReign
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bmp


47 posted on 10/02/2008 9:44:16 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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It would be helpful to have all of the sources and links to back all of these (and the other ones) up.


53 posted on 10/02/2008 9:45:10 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Satisfaction was my sin)
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To: GVnana

Biden spoke for roughly half of the 90 minute debate. So he made gaffes about every 2 to 3 minutes while he was yakking.

Biden IS the Grand Gaffe Master!


63 posted on 10/02/2008 9:49:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

And, this is a key Biden lie.

Slightly off the above topic.

Lies and all, Biden showed well tonight.

That Sara Palin beat him at full stride is so very much to her...presidential... character.

Sarah. Good on you for such a forthright debate presence.

John McCain. Good on you sir, for selecting Gov. Palin. If this is any indication of other picks that you would make as president (SCOTUS for example) you will do well by conservatives.

.

67 posted on 10/02/2008 9:52:15 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Is Biden still the dumbest man in the Senate?

;-)

70 posted on 10/02/2008 9:53:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
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71 posted on 10/02/2008 9:54:37 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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Biden is a blithering idiot...just look at his idiotic comments the last few weeks..and the MSM ignores it...

Dan Quayle misspells 'potato' and they go ballistic!!

The hypocrisy is sickening!!

75 posted on 10/02/2008 10:01:07 PM PDT by stockstrader (VOTE DEMOCRATIC--it's so much easier than thinking.)
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He didnt’ seem accurate in many respects. In some cases he didn’t even rebuke what she said about his past comments.


76 posted on 10/02/2008 10:01:08 PM PDT by Rick_Michael
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To: TitansAFC; meandog; onyx; MARTIAL MONK; GulfBreeze; Kuksool; freespirited; Salvation; furquhart; ...
The McCain List.

79 posted on 10/02/2008 10:06:03 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: GVnana

BTTT. I wanted to post a thread like this but it got locked. Oh, well, I can bump this one.


80 posted on 10/02/2008 10:06:41 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: GVnana

save


81 posted on 10/02/2008 10:07:15 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck)
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To: GVnana
Biden also said he initiated the Bosnia preemptive action for humanitarian reasons (assuming, what, am 18 month stint), and we're still there.

But Iraq (which he voted for) is a mistake, even though the atrocities were worse and we'll be out sooner.

88 posted on 10/02/2008 10:20:41 PM PDT by uncommonsense
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There was something else Joe Bonehead said about Iraq.

Something to do with the Iraqi Army having over 400,000 troops.

I looked it up and the Iraqi Army only has 250,000 some odd, and even if you count the Iraqi Navy and Air Force you still don’t break 260,000 troops.


93 posted on 10/02/2008 10:26:09 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Democrats: Supporting America's enemies since 1824)
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To: GVnana

for later


101 posted on 10/02/2008 10:47:15 PM PDT by AprilfromTexas
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To: GVnana

Basically, Biden lied all night.

Just like FDR did inthat famous TV appearance in 1929.


102 posted on 10/02/2008 10:50:29 PM PDT by TBP
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I’m sorry to be calloused, but I thought his “sentimental moment” was contrived.


105 posted on 10/02/2008 11:05:37 PM PDT by cowdog77
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Let us not forget that Sen.Biden also thinks that Art. 1one of the Constitution refers to tht Legislative branch.(thouh taht is more of a gaff than a lie)


110 posted on 10/03/2008 12:07:59 AM PDT by screaming eagle2 (No matter what you call it,a pre-owned vehicle is still a USED CAR!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping!


111 posted on 10/03/2008 12:10:16 AM PDT by nutmeg (Imagine Commander-in-Chief Barack Hussein Obama... appointing US Supreme Court justices)
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To: All
here is a video on Biden's clean coal lie... pass it around.
115 posted on 10/03/2008 1:59:16 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: GVnana

ping


117 posted on 10/03/2008 2:26:34 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: GVnana

btt


120 posted on 10/03/2008 3:16:53 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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bump


121 posted on 10/03/2008 3:25:04 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: GVnana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1dSPrb5w_k


124 posted on 10/03/2008 4:37:31 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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BTTT


126 posted on 10/03/2008 4:50:01 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: GVnana

thanks.. good thread & good info!

used it “elsewhere” & will have a nice word file started with various things.. this included for defense! Unlike the Cleveland Browns I hope to have some ! lol.


127 posted on 10/03/2008 5:17:59 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: GVnana

ping for later


128 posted on 10/03/2008 5:48:33 AM PDT by pctech
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Biden: “Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we’ve had probably in American history. The idea he doesn’t realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that’s the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.”

First, Article one is the LEGISLATIVE branch not the executive. Everybody should understand that. Furthermore the role of the Vice President is mentioned in BOTH Article I (the Legislative) and Article II (Executive).

So much for Biden the Constitutional scholar.

What a tool.


133 posted on 10/03/2008 7:48:51 AM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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Ugh, he can really pack them in.


135 posted on 10/03/2008 10:43:27 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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