Posted on 09/30/2008 12:57:05 PM PDT by o2bfree
Folks, I spoke with a few Iowans I know and they report that many of their friends and relatives back home want to vote for McCain.
But they want him to reverse his position and support Ethanol.
Since McCain is the only candidate on record supporting a freeze on government spending, I think its a good idea for him to SUPPORT ethanol, and cut something else instead in its place.
Ethanol is a total scam. Country first.
Sounds like Iowans are the Marxists.
Corn based ethanol is a waste of resources. Takes more energy to make it than it contains.......
Ethanol sucks in cars and is a total waste except maybe in industrial applications. Get it out of my car and we can talk. Maybe corn sqeezings will make a comeback.
I am an Iowan and I know of very few people that support ethanol enough to put it in their cars. It is a bad deal all around. I think McCain’s opposition to ethanol subsidies is a push at worst, vote wise. It certainly makes me happier with John McCain.
No can do.
Ethanol was a bad idea from the start. Looks like those folks in Ohio will just have to vote for Obama for their Ethanol money along with the other handouts!
And the people of Ohio want to vote for McCain, all we need is the use of a vacation home, one week, for each family in Ohio.
And in Virginia... everyone wants a pony.
“Ethanol is a total scam. Country first.”
You said it right.
I agree.
sounds like Iowans are hooked on welfare. We can win without them. Ethanol subsidies are a scam.
I have to give McCain credit for defying the ethanol lobby. Ethanol is just another farm subsidy that does nothing to give us energy independence. I know it is the “third rail” of Midwestern politics, but it is a boondoggle none the less.
Aside from the arguments against ethanol that are rooted in science, one needs to ask the question... if ethanol is so great, why does it need subsidies? Why can't it stand on its own without taxpayer help?
I was going to say something but posts 2 thru 6 covered it.
screw ethanol....I went by a gas station today and e-85 was actually MORE than regular unleaded (with 10% ethanol)....why would anyone buy a flex fuel vehicle to burn that crap is beyond me, especially now that falling oil prices have made e-85 economically uncompetitive. Feed the corn to the pigs, I want my baby back ribs.
They want to screw the country, but they don't want the country to screw them.
Iowa - Reverse YOUR position on ethanol
In Chicago, everyone wants Cubs tickets. C'mon John. You could win Illinois!
Fanny and Freddy Iowa need to learn to grow something people want.
If they want government handouts they can vote for Obama, we’re drawing lines in the sand now. Ethanol has been a roaring failure.
Ethanol = Farm Welfare = Consumer Hosing
Farmers paid to grow or not grow crops
Government requires addition of ethanol, raising price of gas
Consumer gets worse mileage, costing him or her more
Consumer pays more for food, since corn is unavailable
Total hosing! Multiple times!
Tell Iowa to get off the government teat!
Ethanol is fine by me. Why does it need a subsidy ?
Farmers are already making a killing. This is idiotic.
Subsidising a product that takes a barrel and a third of oil to make a barrel of ethonal is not a good idea.
Pray for W, Gov Palin and Our Troops
Our biggest problem in this country is that there are too many people who want things for themselves from our government even if it is bad for our country.
Tell your peeps that they are welfare queens....
McCain is approaching this wrong. He should tell the farmers that we need more edible Iowa corn to help combate starvation not ethanol that does very little to solve polution.
If he were to suddenly change his mind now, would that not look like he were pandering, and had no principles? I think it would end up costing him more votes.
That Minneapolis based guy who fills in for Rush sometimes (Mark Belling?) did a whole long segment on ethanol a while back. It was very informative and gave all the details on what a bad idea this is. Food prices have been driven up thanks to ethanol. McCain is right to oppose subsidies.
If McCain really wanted to win Chicago, he would pass a law that handicaps every other team so that the Cubs can win the World Series.
It probably will never happen any other way.
[ducks to avoid incoming fire]
Vote Country First, McCain/Palin, or none of this is really going to matter.
Screw Iowa and the corn they rode in on!!!!
In otherwords, we’re conservative, unless a taxpayer subsidy or bailout can benefit us personally, and then we’re willing to accept a little socialisim, just as long as you don’t give it to the next guy.
“i had a pony”
Welcome to FR, your stay will likely be short. Say hi to Obummer.
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Perhaps, but he could easily win over Sox fans by promising them more food stamps.
In other words they want the government to continue to dish out subsidies for a program that hurts every one. Higher Gas prices, Higher food prices, starvation in some places. Sounds selfish to me.
Corn is for drinking.
Gasoline belongs in the automobile.
Welcome to Free Republic
What is the point of posting in a conservatism forum if you want to push socialists policies?
Why does ethanol need a subsidy to compete? We already are the world’s largest ethanol producer. The industry has a good foothold, let it stand on its own.
“Ethanol is fine by me. Why does it need a subsidy ?”
It doesn’t as long as it can’t be sold except in a liquor store.
In a real market, corn juice should be used for things people want to buy, like Makers Mark.
Ethanol? Isn’t that the fuel they used for Edsels?
McCain would rather lose an election than support Ethanol. Country First.
>> I think its a good idea for him to SUPPORT ethanol,
>>and cut something else instead in its place.
Why, is your pork more healthy?
FREE MARKET.
Google ethanol subsidies and you will find a study by two professors from U of Cal that made the findings. That doesn’t include the land use.
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