Posted on 09/28/2008 1:34:25 PM PDT by huac
"C. Clark Kissinger was released from three months in the federal detention center in Brooklyn. His crime? Fighting for justice for Mumia Abu-Jamal!... Clark has been a journalist and political activist since the early 1960s. ..."I was National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society and organized the first March on Washington against the war on Vietnam in 1965." ...Support for Clark has rolled in from many quarters. He has been nominated for the PEN/Newman's Own First Amendment Award..."
(Excerpt) Read more at ratm.com ...
"On July 2, 1982...Mumia Abu-Jamal was convicted of murdering Officer Danny Faulkner..." http://www.danielfaulkner.com/
“...At the recent National Fraternal Order of Police (FOP) conference in Alabama, the delegation in attendance vote unanimously to begin a boycott of persons, products and companies associated with the supporting of convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal... In case you don’t know, he was convicted in the 1981 killing of Philadelphia Police Officer Daniel Faulkner...Actor Paul Newman, and his products (an outspoken supporter of the killer)...”
http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/danielfaulkner.html
I understand that Newman was a movie icon, so such adoration is to be expected. I just wanted to post a reminder that, as compelling as Newman’s characters might have been, they were fictional. The death of Officer Faulkner and the impact on his loved ones is real. It has tortured his survivors to this day, enabled by useful idiots such as Newman. Anyone familiar with the case will remember Daniel Faulkner this day, a real hero to Newman’s celluloid facsimiles.
'nuff said.
FMCDH(BITS)
C. Clark Kissinger was *nominated* for the PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award. Did he receive it?
Have you looked at who some of the judges of the PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award committee are?
Sure, it's to be expected. Same happened with Norman Mailer.
And I couldn't believe the outpouring when Heath Ledger of Brokeback died.
I expect it. I still think it's ridiculous.
Newman played anti-heroes, not heroes. He contribued greatly to the deterioration of good values nationally.
I, for one, am no fan of Newman.
I did not post this to speak ill of the dead. My main purpose was to remember a good man whose memory was slandered by Newman. That being said, I have no qualms speaking ill of the dead. Yes, Newman did charity work. You can decide whether it’s absolution for the injustice he did to the Faulkners or, in the case of his fervent position on Viet Nam, one million dead Cambodians. There will be no discussion of Newman’s sins in the MSM or thought of in it the general public consciousness, even though the “evidence is out there”. Merely accolades for his acting ability. That’s why I am part of the Free Republic. It reminds us what is truly important.
Newman, Mailer...Hollywood and it’s fellow travelers. Whether they were useful idiots or traitors, their cause was not that of America’s. it’s a shame that this fact is so rarely discussed.
On the RIP/Newman thread, some FReepers want to canonize Newman as some great American hero. Far from it. He made a few good films, but most were were dreary stories of human failures and bleak outcomes. Newman was way overrated as an actor. Hollywood loved him and rewarded him with 10 acting nominations. BFD.
Fact is, Newman was a proud liberal Democrat and a political activist who supported every issue and cause tied to the leftwing agenda. Newman also hated Pres Bush and didn’t think much of President Reagan either.
Sometimes conservatives need to be reminded that individuals like Paul Newman and his pal, Robert Redford, have helped to undermine our Republic and demand we embrace socialism.
When you evaluate someone you have to look at their full body of work. He did a lot more good than bad during his time on earth and his camps and quarter billion of charity fundraising contributed far more than a few misguided or idiotic stances. We need more stars and athletes like him rather than the Robert Downey, JR and Allen Iverson types we have so many of.
This, “Hollywood loved him and rewarded him with 10 acting nominations...” is so unimportant compared to this, “individuals like Paul Newman and his pal, Robert Redford, have helped to undermine our Republic...”
Call me extreme, but the only discussion I am interested in regarding Newman is his politics. His politics were always of the Blame America First variety. His portrayal of the fictional Cool Hand Luke doesn’t absolve him of his fervent support of the Viet Nam anti-war cause, cop killers and indictments of almost every cause which conservatives strongly believe in.
Thanks for posting something real about PN. I am not saddened by his passing but then again, I never wished for his death, either. His death is nodifferent from millions of others like it that bring grief to those around him . . . ‘nuff said about that.
He was still a leftist and his efforts aided the socialist cause. Every time somebody buys his products, you help purchase the rope that will eventually hang you. Newman and his allies on the left are, at the root of it all, anti-American. He may have been quite humanitarian in many of his impulses, but what is to be celebrated about that - millions and millions of the rest of us are, too. No, Paul Newman may have been a big movies star entitling him to millions of dollars of income, but that is something to be noted to the credit of the American system of enterprise. That he stayed with the same woman for most of his life is pretty much the same thing that the rest of us do. In short, his eulogy should be a paen to America and American ideals. The analysis of his life is another thing altogether - that should start with his involvement with the leftist assault on American freedoms and values through his ‘charitable’ work.
Funny that you left out his work with kids and his $250 million worth of charitable donations in your summary of his life. Seems like a hard thing to leave out.
I covered all the bases.
If I missed something specific, let me know.
...and anyone wanting to “save” him can hold his hand while they send electric justice through his murderous carcass.
I have to respectfully disagree. A quarter billion dollars in charity is great. I'm pretty sure that it didn't go to defend the First or Second Amendment or the Boy Scouts, but more than likely to global warming alarmists and criminal defense (under the guise of First Amendment rights). George Soros gives much more to “charity” than Newman, every penny meant to weaken America.
Other than Newman's contributions to his “charities”, what other “contribution” did this pampered prince make, other than support anti-Americanism? Frankly, if I discount his charitable work (most of which I do, if only based upon his support of the execrable Mumia), I can't see the “more good than bad” that you refer to.
As far as we can tell, Clark is first person to be sent to jail by the federal government since socialist leader Eugene Debs in 1919.
This statement just shows how dumb, plainly ignorant or willfully misguided thes people are
Great post, articulates a lot of feel.
Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last 20 years, everyone is well aware of Newman’s charitable work. Okay. Fine.
I’m more concerned with the damage he did to America by pushing for liberal socialist policies through the Democratic Party apparatus. Like big government, welfare state socialism, class warfare, social engineering, abortion rights, gay rights, heavy taxation, etc etc etc.
Lets not forget that Newman was a big supporter of every liberal Democrat going back to FDR -— including Truman, Stevenson, JFK, LBJ, RFK, Humphrey, McCarthy, McGovern, Carter and in more recent years, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Algore, John Kerry, Ned Lamont, Chris Dodd and Al Franken.
“$250 million worth of charitable donations in your summary of his life...”
Where did that money go? How much went to groups against the Iraq War. How much to fight global warming? How much to fund pro-abortion groups?
One area were I know the answer with certainty:
http://www.danielfaulkner.com/
I never buy Newman’s products, for that very reason. I dont care how blue his eyes were.
Funny that you post on a conservative website and deftly ignore all of the work Newman has done over his lifespan to promote the very things that seek to destroy America. Granted, forking out 250 million to charities sparkles the eyes of a lot of folks, but then, he made his pile of cash and set up his ‘charity’ business on the strength of his blue eyes and the shallow Hollywood charm they held for some shallow folks. Seems that ignoring the real work he’s done for anti-American enterprises is a hard thing for many to accept - even some on FR.
Your self-created title, which should have been posted as a vanity I think, [according to forum protocol], is incendiary ... (Paul Newman/Cop Killer) ...p-u-l-l-e-e-z.
I don't why why you have a hard-on for Newman but you might start by looking at Newman's Own 501(c)(3)-IRS FORM 990. Luckily for you, it's available online... with annotations on why he gave to the organizations.
When you find some incriminating evidence in the EDOCS, please ping me.
"...it didn't go to defend the First or Second Amendment or the Boy Scouts, but more than likely to global warming alarmists and criminal defense..."
You know this for sure? I mean this sincerely .... your claims are wild and unsubstantiated ... do some research and get back to me, K? ;)
“…Can you answer the questions in post #6?…”
The question is, why should I? If you have a point to make, make it. I posted what I do know (that Newman was an ardent leftist). If you aren’t aware of this, then perhaps you should do the research.
“…Your self-created title, which should have been posted as a vanity I think, [according to forum protocol], is incendiary ... (Paul Newman/Cop Killer) ...p-u-l-l-e-e-z…”
I’ll defer to your wisdom regarding forum protocol. Regarding my association of Newman and the cop killer, I’m curious as to what aspect of that you object to. Newman’s support of Mumia Abu Jamal is no secret. Nor is Mumia’s guilt to anyone who is familiar with the case. Before you dismiss this association with your sarcastic “p-u-l-l-e-z…”, I suggest you google “Maureen Faulkner”, Officer Faulkner’s wife. Although he was murdered 27 years ago, she is still seeks justice for her husband. People like Newman slander his memory in pursuit of freeing his killer.
“…I don’t why why you have a hard-on for Newman but you might start by looking at Newman’s Own 501(c)(3)-IRS FORM 990…”
Again, why? I noticed that while you have suggested I do some research, you have provided no evidence that Newman was not exactly what I have accused him of being, a leftist. I don’t need to look at the above document when I have access to these:
“…an idealist who took to the streets to protest the war in Vietnam…” (to bad for one million Cambodians)
http://www.truthdig.com/arts_culture/item/20080927_actor_and_philanthopist_paul_newman_dies_at_83/
“…new President Ronald Reagan (really not pleased)…”
(I’ll let you do your own research on the man he did like, Jimmy Carter)
http://www.rollingstone.com/blogs/traverstake/2008/09/paul-newman-a-fans-notes.php
“…Newman remained political — dedicated to civil rights, women’s rights and gay rights, committed to ending the nuclear arms race and determined to elect opponents of war and militarism.
Newman supported, and even wrote for, The Nation.
And he was a steady campaigner for and contributor to progressive causes and candidates – mostly Democrats but also anti-war Republican Pete McCloskey when he challenged Nixon in the Republican primaries of 1972 and to Green Ralph Nader in 2000. In 2006, the actor helped Connecticut’s Ned Lamont mount a successful Democratic primary challenge to U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman. (Newman got so into the Lamont campaign that he even volunteered to do calls for the campaign — and wrote his own script.)…This year, Newman was a maxed-out contributor to the campaign of Barack Obama for president…”
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/365464
These are just a few facts which allow me to brand Newman. That being said, you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t find your folksy “..do some research and get back to me, K? ;)” sufficient reason to heed your advice. I’ve done my research.
As to why I have what you have so elegantly referred to as a “hard-on” for Newman?
“…Such high profile personalities as Spike Lee, Susan Sarandon, Paul Newman, Maya Angelou and Alec Baldwin, to name a few, have lent their names to advertisements claiming Mumia’s trial had been unfair and calling for a new trial. Danny’s killer has also become a symbol for international organizations in places such as France and Denmark that oppose the death penalty. They have turned this murderer into a “political prisoner.” Alternative rock bands like Rage Against the Machine and the Beastie Boys have done benefit concerts to raise money for Mumia’s defense. Students at the University of California wear “Free Mumia” t-shirts. This culmination of politicos and personalities, regardless of their motivations, have turned Danny’s murderer into a mythic figure…”
http://www.fop.net/causes/faulkner/danny.shtml
His allegiance is obvious.
I prefer to lend my support to Faulkner’s widow, Maureen.
Did you demonstrate that C. Clark Kissinger received the award? No.
You've claimed:"I'm pretty sure that it didn't go to defend the First or Second Amendment or the Boy Scouts, but more than likely to global warming alarmists and criminal defense" The PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award is about 1A .... and you haven't looked at the judges, some of who are members of the CATO Institute... or the foundation's FORM 990...which describes why they were given resources.
You've been linking the NO Foundation to what Newman the private citizen did. Unfortunately, you're wrong for doing so, which is the only reason why I chimed in. You haven't proven that the NO Foundation gave to leftist causes. You've sourced from blogs. Whatever floats your boat. ;-D
In the end, only kindness matters.
You accuse me of linking Newman to his eponymously named organization of which he is the founder...I'll let you mull that over. The NO website states “Paul Newman and the Newman's Own Foundation have given ...”. NO links the two, not me.
“...I applaud you and will nominate you for a Newman’s Own First Amendment Award. ;)...”.
You are the soul of wit. I'll repeat this for your benefit. Newman, through his outspoken advocacy for the murderer Mumia, slanders the name of Officer Daniel Faulkner. I'll let you do the research on just how vile Mumia and his supporters are. He's guilty, so they have no choice but to fall back on the leftist standby of slandering the victim.
“...In the end, only kindness matters...”
A final thought which will close out this banal chat.
“...Murdered by Mumia: A Conversation With Maureen Faulkner...Why is Mumia’s death important to you? Would a firm declaration by the court of his guilt, coupled with a sentence of “life without parole” be acceptable to you?...Unless Mumia Abu-Jamal is executed my family and I will never have any closure and we will always live in fear that some day in the future the phone will ring and we’ll be told that he has been set free...”
http://calitreview.com/301
Append your insipid “ ;) “ to that.
huac: “In my business, we give no mercy, and we ask for none.”
And daffynition responded, “Would you like some of that pudding you used to love so much?” ;-)
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